Prospect Info: Owen Beck

[Pompeius Magnus]

Let’s hope he plays better than he dresses. He looks like an Amish anvil salesman.

A dorky one at that, even by Amish anvil salesman's standards

 

[FrankMTL]

I think Beck’s defensive game is over stated and his offensive game under estimated. Danault is a more fluid skater than Beck and presents a higher defensive acumen. But its Beck’s overall offensive game that really differs him from Danault. Beck has a much superior shot than Danault and his hand skills, explosive acceleration, net drive and shoot first mentality will allow him to have a more impactful offensive presence in the NHL than Danault. They really aren’t the same type of players.

Agreed that his offense is understated.

He has a nose for the net and a howitzer of a shot.

Last season before the trade to Peterborough, he was on pace for almost a 40 goal season (over a full 68 game OHL schedule) as an 18 year old. This season (after a very slow start) he's on pace for 45 goals over a 68 game schedule.

Now he obviously won't play all 68 games because of the WJC, but I can see him scoring between 35-40 goals in 55-60 games.

Danault scored a total of 74 goals in 243 games during 4 years of junior hockey. The most he ever scored in one season was 23 goals.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Agreed that his offense is understated.

He has a nose for the net and a howitzer of a shot.

Last season before the trade to Peterborough, he was on pace for almost a 40 goal season (over a full 68 game OHL schedule) as an 18 year old. This season (after a very slow start) he's on pace for 45 goals over a 68 game schedule.

Now he obviously won't play all 68 games because of the WJC, but I can see him scoring between 35-40 goals in 55-60 games.

Danault scored a total of 74 goals in 243 games during 4 years of junior hockey. The most he ever scored in one season was 23 goals.

Different type of players. Let us hope that Beck can play as an impactful role, even if it is a different one, for the team as Danault did.

 

[yianik]

Let’s hope he plays better than he dresses. He looks like an Amish anvil salesman.

You are not wrong. Lol.

I really like Beck. He has tools, seems to have a workman like and mature approach to the game. I predicted he would at minimum be a Doug Jarvis and possibly up to a 2C. Let time do its thing and see what we have in this youngster in 2-3 years.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

You are not wrong. Lol.

I really like Beck. He has tools, seems to have a workman like and mature approach to the game. I predicted he would at minimum be a Doug Jarvis and possibly up to a 2C. Let time do its thing and see what we have in this youngster in 2-3 years.

Agreed. Your expected range for Beck is on point. Similar to my reaction to those who see similarities between Beck’s game and Evans/ Danault’s game, I believe Beck’s offensive upside is far higher than Jarvis’ offensive ability and established track record. Jarvis was a smallish player who epitomized the defensive specialist who on occasion could chip in with some scoring. Beck’s game is built on offence: explosive acceleration; overpowering shot and a drive to the net approach. Beck’s ultimate success in the NHL will rest on his ability to be an important offensive contributor as his game is not focused on adopting a traditional defensive orientation. Beck’s a responsible defensive player, but that won’t cut it by itself. He has to produce offensively to remain in the team’s long term plans.

 

[Miller Time]

Agreed. Your expected range for Beck is on point. As for those who see similarities between Beck’s game and Evans/ Danault’s game, I believe Beck’s offensive upside is far higher than Jarvis’ offensive ability and established track record. Jarvis was a smallish player who epitomized the defensive specialist who on occasion could chip in with some scoring. Beck’s game is built on offence: explosive acceleration; overpowering shot and a drive to the net approach. Beck’s ultimate success in the NHL will rest on his ability to be an important offensive contributor as his game is not focused on adopting a traditional defensive orientation. Beck’s a responsible defensive player, but that won’t cut it by itself. He has to produce offensively to remain in the team’s long term plans.

With what he's showing, is the upside ceiling not more in line with an ROR, or at its apex, Bergeron?

That ability to keep learning, growing and improving is granted quite rare, but with the package of tools he's already displaying, if he can keep making impressive steps fwd I don't see why 2C is the top end range...

HOF or elite level career is never a given for anything but the generational talents like Bedard who excel from day one, but for the rest, it is the ability to keep improving at a high rate from D1-D3/4 that gets them there.

Will be fun to see how Beck navigates the next 24-36 months as he makes the jump to pro hockey. Hopefully, the 2/3C NHL regular & all around utility contributor ends up as his floor, rather than his ceiling

 

[ChesterNimitz]

With what he's showing, is the upside ceiling not more in line with an ROR, or at its apex, Bergeron?

That ability to keep learning, growing and improving is granted quite rare, but with the package of tools he's already displaying, if he can keep making impressive steps fwd I don't see why 2C is the top end range...

HOF or elite level career is never a given for anything but the generational talents like Bedard who excel from day one, but for the rest, it is the ability to keep improving at a high rate from D1-D3/4 that gets them there.

Will be fun to see how Beck navigates the next 24-36 months as he makes the jump to pro hockey. Hopefully, the 2/3C NHL regular & all around utility contributor ends up as his floor, rather than his ceiling

When you can skate and shoot like he can, anything is possible.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Was able to watch the Petes' game against the 67's last night. Beck had another strong game where he: scored one goal and had two assists; displayed explosive straight-line speed; created multiple chances off the rush, and dominated in the face-off circle, including winning a face-off in the neutral zone while the Ottawa goalie had been pulled which win directly resulted in an empty net goal. Against a strong opponent, Beck was the best player on the ice in leading his team to victory. Beck should easily make Team Canada, but if Team Canada determines that they have four centers who are better than Beck, and they are correct in their determination, then they should do very well at the upcoming WJC.

 

[Saku K]

I don't mind the Anthony Cirelli comparison for Beck. Top-six or middle-six he'll probably have to play both during his career anyway. Both Dvorak and Evans contract expires next year giving them ufas status and with Dach's injury history, Beck will probably be a fixture in the lineup by then. There is little competition at center on our prospect list as well.

A lot can change by then in terms of acquiring players and Beck's development as a pro. He was considered a safe pick at the time of his draft and I'm glad he is scoring goals at a great pace which guys like Danault/Evans never did show, ever.

The difference between top-six and middle-six is usually offensive production which comes in the form of being a fixture on the first wave of the powerplay which I doubt Beck will be able to crack when he'll start his career in a pro in Montreal. However, he should provide strong numbers, play around 17 minutes playing in all situation during his tenure like a Cirelli.

I could be wrong too and he could offer more offensively but that is my safe opinion at this point in time with a lot of hockey left for him to prove otherwise.

 

[FrankMTL]

Beck now with 16 G, 14 A , 30 Points in 25 games. He has 29 points in his last 19 games as he started the season off with only 1 point in 6 games.

Maybe even more impressive is that his face off percentage is now up to 63.3% .

 

[tazsub3]

Beck now with 16 G, 14 A , 30 Points in 25 games. He has 29 points in his last 19 games as he started the season off with only 1 point in 6 games.

Maybe even more impressive is that his face off percentage is now up to 63.3% .

Impressive . Kid gets it . I am very high on hi ceiling

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Beck now with 16 G, 14 A , 30 Points in 25 games. He has 29 points in his last 19 games as he started the season off with only 1 point in 6 games.

Maybe even more impressive is that his face off percentage is now up to 63.3% .

Beck’s continuing dominance in the face-off circle was very noticeable against Ottawa last night.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Beck now with 16 G, 14 A , 30 Points in 25 games. He has 29 points in his last 19 games as he started the season off with only 1 point in 6 games.

Maybe even more impressive is that his face off percentage is now up to 63.3% .

It will always amaze me when talking prospects that people don't think certain things can impact a player.

There was so much concern over that 1 pt in 6 games stretch.. completely ignoring the fact that a teenager who had such a high coming back from his last NHL training camp, didn't make the same impression this year and likely needed to work through the mental stuff that comes with that.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Had the Dach injury happened just a couple weeks earlier during the preseason, Beck could have very well spend the entire season with the Habs. I'm almost positive he half believed he would start the season in Montreal anyway, so obviously the first few games back in the OHL would have been a bit of a downer. It's only human.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Think he will be captain of team Canada ?

I could have also missed the leadership announcement, too.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Think he will be captain of team Canada ?

I could have also missed the leadership announcement, too.

Let’s wait to see if he even makes the team.

 

[MarkJ]

Don't give him Houle next year.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Let’s wait to see if he even makes the team.

Should make the team. Being the only returning player should give him the advantage and might be why he could be captain, but at least an assistant..

Would be kind of shocked if he didn't make it

 

[HomaridII]

Should make the team. Being the only returning player should give him the advantage and might be why he could be captain, but at least an assistant..

Would be kind of shocked if he didn't make it

Everyone has him making the team as 4th line center. I think he will and I think he will be captain.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Everyone has him making the team as 4th line center. I think he will and I think he will be captain.

Should be the 3rd C at worst.
Should also be the captain or assistant captain

 

[montreal]

Let’s wait to see if he even makes the team.

he's a lock to make it.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

he's a lock to make it.

Colts were a lock to beat the Jets in Super Bowl III; Tyson was a lock to beat Buster Douglas ; Boston was a lock to beat the Canadiens in the first round of the 1971 Playoffs.

There are few locks in Sports. Even less so when dealing with teenagers.

 

[montreal]

Colts were a lock to beat the Jets in Super Bowl III; Tyson was a lock to beat Buster Douglas ; Boston was a lock to beat the Canadiens in the first round of the 1971 Playoffs.

There are few locks in Sports. Even less so when dealing with teenagers.

he's a returning player though and going into the WJC's red hot with 21 points in his last 12 games. Outside of injury he's a lock to make the team, no question. What you list are outcomes of spotting events, different then making up a roster.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

he's a returning player though and going into the WJC's red hot with 21 points in his last 12 games. Outside of injury he's a lock to make the team, no question. What you list are outcomes of spotting events, different then making up a roster.

Just pointing out the uncertainty in sport and life in general. Nothing is written.

 

[FrankMTL]

Owen Beck not in the lineup for the Petes today...Don't know if it's injury, illness or if he's with Team Canada already