Ovechkin milestone thread - 850 and Beyond!
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Retire91
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Incredible achievement absolutely incredible
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Frosty415
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I love that he tried to pass it away during the empty net, but Kuz was like nah you take it.
then he scored a sick goal at a weird angle.
greatest player of his generation.
then he scored a sick goal at a weird angle.
greatest player of his generation.
ovikovy817
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UFO
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Great achievement. He has been an absolute beast ever since he joined the league and I salute that. Best pure scorer I have ever seen.
However, unpopular opinion incoming, I don't want him to beat Gretzky's record.
Yes, I know, I'm a Gretzky fanboy.
However, unpopular opinion incoming, I don't want him to beat Gretzky's record.
Yes, I know, I'm a Gretzky fanboy.
He will beat it and you canadians lose haha
What?! Say it isn't so! Wasn't Backstrom supposed to retire because of the injury?! Thought it was just a matter of time before they announced it. Ovechkin has been playing way better once he got away from Backstrom. Last year Ovechkin was scoring like crazy and then when Backstrom returned his production started to limp. This year Ovechkin has been absolutely carrying the team. Backstrom is nothing but a detriment to Ovechkin at this point.
Big Phil
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802 is a great accomplishment, but dang does he ever rack up the empty net goals over the last two years at an unparalleled pace in hockey history. Which is too bad because it isn't the vintage Ovechkin that got him to 800 goals in the first place. That's 6 already this year and it isn't even Christmas. 9 last year, and I am pretty sure that was the record. Last year that was 20% of his goals. This year, so far with 6 out of 22 goals it is 27% of them. A bit of a nitpick, but still.
I think Gretzky is still one ahead of Ovechkin in terms of career empty net goals (56 of 894)?
In terms of recent scoring, Connor McDavid is right up there with Ovy in empty netters.
In terms of recent scoring, Connor McDavid is right up there with Ovy in empty netters.
BallardEra
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I think only the haters will bring this up but if he finishes with 900+ career goals it won't matter one bit.
For now they have to cling to something I suppose. For the past 5-7 years it's been "Ovechkin is on the decline and will hit a wall."
Since that hasn't happened they trot out the ENG narrative.
Yeah but Crosby has just as many empty net points both this year and the last 2 years as Ovechkin. And 2 more empty net points than Ovechkin over their whole career. And Crosby has done it in way less games. And Crosby will most likely pass Gretzky as the all time leader in empty net points too. The difference is just that Crosby passes to Jake Guentzel (who scores the goal) in order to avoid any criticism, because nobody gives a shit about Jake Guentzel or anything that he does.
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BallardEra
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I think the next thing beyond the ENGs that the haters will focus on is how many games it will take Ovechkin to reach 894.
I'm guessimg a lot of the Gretzky fanboys hope he does it in more games than it took Gretzky.
Of course they'll be glossing over the fact it was much easier for Gretzky to score during the majority of his career.
Mark my words that this will be their main area of focus beyond the ENGs.
I'm guessimg a lot of the Gretzky fanboys hope he does it in more games than it took Gretzky.
Of course they'll be glossing over the fact it was much easier for Gretzky to score during the majority of his career.
Mark my words that this will be their main area of focus beyond the ENGs.
You should be careful with Big Phil. He's the only one opposing Ovechkin's dominace and breaking Gretzky's record that I respect. I thought that Ovechkin would break the consecutive 30 goal season record for sure for many years. But Big Phil schooled me on that one. He said there was no way it would happen several years in a row, after Ovechkin had his 13th 30 goal season, his 14th 30 goal season and his 15th 30 goal season. Turned out Big Phil was right and I had to eat crow big time! There's a reason why Big Phil is a top 5 hockey guru here on HF Boards.
Big Phil still doubts that Ovechkin will pass Gretzky in goals and it's the only thing that still worries me when it comes to Ovechkin passing Gretzky in goals.
Nah. They’ll focus heavily on the cup wins because ovi was always surrounded by a plethora of hall of fame talent.I think the next thing beyond the ENGs that the haters will focus on is how many games it will take Ovechkin to reach 894.
I'm guessimg a lot of the Gretzky fanboys hope he does it in more games than it took Gretzky.
Of course they'll be glossing over the fact it was much easier for Gretzky to score during the majority of his career.
Mark my words that this will be their main area of focus beyond the ENGs.
BallardEra
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Based on what you're telling me it's because he doesn't want it to happen.
Doesn't sound like much thought was put into that reasoning.
At this point Big Phil needs to hope for an injury or two so that Ovie doesn't break the 894 barrier.
BallardEra
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Yep. Even if we give him the low end at 20 that gives him 822 career goals. He would need to average 24 goals a season over the last 3 years of his contract to hit 894.He'll get about 20-25 more goals this season, so he'll end the year at around 825. He passes Gretzky at 39, almost guaranteed at this point. Even if he got injured, I'm sure he'd stick around longer to reach it.
Teemu Selanne scored 85 goals in three seasons from age 38-40.
If Ovechkin matches that he'd finish with 907 career goals at the end of his current deal.
abo9
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Just watched goal 802
Wtf was Kuz doing? Everyone talks about Ovechkin racking up goals on empty netters, but hey it helps hos team win games. But Kuz trying to get the puck to Ovechkin there could have been a pretty bad turnover...
For those saying empty net goals diminish the whole thing... well i just checked Gretz because thats who Ovechkin is chasing, but the both of them are very close on their percentage of empty net goals vs their career goals.
I'd be a bit bummed down if Ovechkin played 10 mins a night all on the PP and in empty net situations... but he's still the best player on the Caps
Wtf was Kuz doing? Everyone talks about Ovechkin racking up goals on empty netters, but hey it helps hos team win games. But Kuz trying to get the puck to Ovechkin there could have been a pretty bad turnover...
For those saying empty net goals diminish the whole thing... well i just checked Gretz because thats who Ovechkin is chasing, but the both of them are very close on their percentage of empty net goals vs their career goals.
I'd be a bit bummed down if Ovechkin played 10 mins a night all on the PP and in empty net situations... but he's still the best player on the Caps
shtorm2005
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I think Kuzy wanted badly to be part of history. Assisting on a big milestone goal is better than scoring by himself. I think it's the only case where an assist is better than a goal, right @Midnight Judges ?
Empty-net goals have spiked league-wide in the last 6/7 years. Goalies are pulled much earlier and with the team further behind than in previous eras. Everyone has more ENG.
I posted this on the Habs board:
The reason I love Ovechkin is because he genuinely loves hockey. He leaps up like a kid when a teammate scores, he declines penalties on the other team because he didn't feel it was fair, he taps Carey Price on the pads for robbing him on a last-second shot, he goes on an epic celebration bender after winning the Cup.
If Ovi didn't play the game, he'd be the guy on HF posting to himself on the GDT. He's the ultimate hockey fanboy. We are genuinely lucky to be watching him.
He's also pretty good at scoring.
The reason I love Ovechkin is because he genuinely loves hockey. He leaps up like a kid when a teammate scores, he declines penalties on the other team because he didn't feel it was fair, he taps Carey Price on the pads for robbing him on a last-second shot, he goes on an epic celebration bender after winning the Cup.
If Ovi didn't play the game, he'd be the guy on HF posting to himself on the GDT. He's the ultimate hockey fanboy. We are genuinely lucky to be watching him.
He's also pretty good at scoring.
BallardEra
Leafs&Caps Since 1982™
NHL goals after turning 38:
1. Howe - 177
2. Selanne - 132
3. Bucyk - 121
4. Jagr - 120
5. Recchi - 104
1. Howe - 177
2. Selanne - 132
3. Bucyk - 121
4. Jagr - 120
5. Recchi - 104
The RED one - Ovi
Purple - Wayne Gretzky
Green - Gordie Howe
Blue - Jaromir Jagr
Burgundy - Brett Hull
Light Orange - Mario Lemieux
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