Ovechkin milestone thread - 850 and Beyond!

[Master P]

Amazing!

Now the real work begins.

Almost there.

 

[BallardEra]

Yeah, on the breakaway he looked sloooow, was hoping he'd score 802 there. Definitely still has the power aspect of his game though.

That was more him coasting and being far too casual there.

Gotta bear down and keep the legs going.

 

[NeelyWasAWarrior]

I don't like using championships as a significant argument when comparing players in team sports. Sid has other arguments for all around game and I can see both sides but I agree with you. Ovi is the best of his generation and up there in the all time conversation. I really hope he decides to play long enough to go for 1000 career goals. Definitely within reach if he wants to try for it, though I suspect he goes back to Russia sometime between breaking the record and 1000.

Probably hits 900 and bolts. Still, never in my wildest dreams did I ever think anybody would contest 99's record. Even with the new rules that accompanied Ovi and Sid after the Dead Puck Era.

 

[Herregud]

Tale of two seasons for Ovi right now.

First 18 games: 8+6, 14 points, 0.78 ppg, -15

Last 18 games: (Ranks listed based on 16 Nov - present)

14 goals (T-2nd)
27 points (T-3rd)
1.50 ppg (T-8th)
+12 (T-10th)
12 EVGs (1st)
20 EVPs (1st)

Nice to see him (and the team) adjust to the injuries and such. That said, how ridiculous is it that we can look at a 37 year old player putting up .78 points per game and consider that subpar output?

 

[BallardEra]

Probably hits 900 and bolts. Still, never in my wildest dreams did I ever think anybody would contest 99's record. Even with the new rules that accompanied Ovi and Sid after the Dead Puck Era.

I agree.

He walks away at the age of 40 after his current deal is done.

 

[Telos]

LOL at how it went down with the empty net. It looked like he really didn't want to score 802 with an empty net, but the no-look shot was nice The guy is an immortal legend. I think he's the greatest goalscorer in the history of the sport. Would be awesome if he could catch Gretz. Records are made to be broken...

 

[ozzie]

Howe passed twice in my lifetime; I feel blessed as a Hockey fan. Empty net goals or the poor goalies and equipment of the 80's. Wood sticks vs modern sticks. Bigger equipment and better coaching, higher level of overall skill. You can go on and on with excuses, honestly it all evens out in the wash if you're a true fan. Empty net is part of that, and really who cares?

Scoring is harder now overall. So, this is pretty amazing. The fact that Ovechkin keeps scoring long distance goals speaks volumes to his shot and strength.

Gretzky changed his game from a goal scorer to more of play maker, during those 200-point seasons he could have had even more goals. I'd argue if not for being humble and his love for Howe, Gretzky could have chased 100 goals in a season and gunned for 1000 goals. He was that good in the mid-80's, he had already embarassed the game enough.

 

[Jags]

I really hope he decides to play long enough to go for 1000 career goals.

So long as he puts up enough to silence the ENG whiners for good, I'm good.

 

[PolishPrince21]

LOL at how it went down with the empty net. It looked like he really didn't want to score 802 with an empty net, but the no-look shot was nice The guy is an immortal legend. I think he's the greatest goalscorer in the history of the sport. Would be awesome if he could catch Gretz. Records are made to be broken...

He will break it unless he gets injured. Gretzky’s total points and 50 in 39 are the ones that are untouchable.

 

[Guardian17]

 

[andrjusha]

Added padding to his 1st goal of the game and go ahead goal all-time records as well.
I'm glad 2nd of all-time milestone is out of the way, there were too many of milestones recently, I am exhausted

Holiday break is ahead, Becky and Willie are close to be back, Caps are in a playoff position in standings.
OV could focus on his job, gradually chipping away on Great One's mark.

Happy holidays everyone!

 

[jigglysquishy]

Tremendous accomplishment

 

[NeelyWasAWarrior]

I saw this coming several years ago. I wish I picked up some more Ovechkin rookies. ugh.

#OVCoin

 

[ViD]

Classy Jets are classy

 

[kmart]

Is he? The end of this season will be the end of Matthews 7th season. If he gets I think it is 42 goals, his raw total through first 7 years will exceed Ovechkin despite many less minutes, much less PP and about 1000 less shots. That’s like one guy going to work for 3 - 3.5 days per week while the other goes 5 days only to produce the same amount of widgets. Same holds true with Gretzky.

Don’t see any good argument for “takes a lot of shots to produce same result”. Certainly wouldn’t be my focus if I was picking a sniper on a battlefield.

no. as of right now ovechkin has over 60 goals more at the end of their first 7 seasons (in a lower gpg era but with about 100 more games)

if we count their last 7 seasons from today (matthews career) - matthews outscores ovechkin by 1 goal
ovy just scored his second goal so ovy is up by1.... sooo young and old ovi are ahead

u basically only have boring pace arguments which are not even in matthews favor if u go into detail
the reason matthews has not as many shots and pp time cant be used against ao


a good start #34 would be a few seasons in a row with 80 games

 

[canuck2010]

I admire Ovechkin for his talents, the joy he brings to the ice and the way he plays the game. The number of goals however is just a number and should only be used to measure him against the players of his era and no other. Hard to imagine a more dynamic goal scorer.

I would like to point out that Howe retired for two years and then played for another 6 years in the WHA before retiring for good after the 79-80 season, his last in the NHL. Much of his career was played during an era where 20 goals a season marked a pretty good hockey player.

 

[discobob]

Is he? The end of this season will be the end of Matthews 7th season. If he gets I think it is 42 goals, his raw total through first 7 years will exceed Ovechkin despite many less minutes, much less PP and about 1000 less shots. That’s like one guy going to work for 3 - 3.5 days per week while the other goes 5 days only to produce the same amount of widgets. Same holds true with Gretzky.

Don’t see any good argument for “takes a lot of shots to produce same result”. Certainly wouldn’t be my focus if I was picking a sniper on a battlefield.

It’s interesting but questionable. Like Iverson.


Is Matthews shooting against terrible goalies? It’s going to take him roughly 1000 less shots to have the same amount of goals through their first 7 seasons.

Ovechkin has had legendary longevity, Matthews is gonna fade like everyone else has.

 

[Cant Kick On 1 Foot]

Ovechkin would likely have the record already if it wasn’t two lockout seasons and a season interrupted by COVID.

 

[Signupnow]

This guy should be inducted to hall of fame the moment he passess Wayne.

 

[Fallschirmyager]

Ovechkin has had legendary longevity, Matthews is gonna fade like everyone else has.

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This. People want to believe than the young gunslingers of today are going to follow the same longevity trajectory as Ovy has forgetting all the while that Ovy is an outlier amongst outliers in the goal scoring category.

Let me know when any of them are in the ball park when they hit 30.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Congratulations, Ovechkin!

 

[the valiant effort]

Lmao at the Matthews mentions

 

[BallardEra]

This. People want to believe than the young gunslingers of today are going to follow the same longevity trajectory as Ovy has forgetting all the while that Ovy is an outlier amongst outliers in the goal scoring category.

Let me know when any of them are in the ball park when they hit 30.

Ovechkin had scored 525 goals after his age 30 season.

From his age 31 season until today he's scored an additional 277 more goals.

 

[discobob]

Lmao at the Matthews mentions

Only should be brought up if we are talking about the most molesty muchtaches

 

[Ovie's Neighbor]

This. People want to believe than the young gunslingers of today are going to follow the same longevity trajectory as Ovy has forgetting all the while that Ovy is an outlier amongst outliers in the goal scoring category.

Let me know when any of them are in the ball park when they hit 30.

Like Tom Brady. You see all the other QBs drop off a cliff as they approach 40. Manning, Brees, Ryan, even Rodgers looks like he may be done. OV is the exception not the norm.