HF Habs: Out of Town Thread: Off-Season Edition

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

The way Mitchkov is celebrating his goals makes me think he’s a selfish POS and a locker room cancer.

It's all better to have culture-appropriate paragons of almighty character who don't actually score goals.

 

[Tyson]

The toughness issue with the Leafs is with Matthews.

Now I see why Reeves has been traded shortly after being acquired in recent years. Leafs are still soft.

 

[George Lebay]

It's all better to have culture-appropriate paragons of almighty character who don't actually score goals.

Trying to convince myself they made the right choice. Now leave me alone.

 

[le_sean]

Now I see why Reeves has been traded shortly after being acquired in recent years. Leafs are still soft.

Not sure how many times it needs to be proven that having an enforcer is not at all a deterrent. Especially guys that are strictly enforcers since they live and die by the idiotic “code”. They don’t just grab and punch players, they need signed permission.

 

[Mrb1p]

I'll always maintain that Slafkovsky was a legitimate choice in 2022. If the rushing busts him, so be it.

The Habs are the only team with a top 2022 draft pick to have rushed the player.

He was. It was painfully obvious he was not the most NHL ready and had the most things to work on.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I'll always maintain that Slafkovsky was a legitimate choice in 2022. If the rushing busts him, so be it.

The Habs are the only team with a top 2022 draft pick to have rushed the player.

Slaf was a 100% legitimate choice.

As I said before the draft, none of the players should start in the NHL.

New Jersey and Arizona understood it.

Seattle and Montreal didn't.

Which two players look the worst between those 4 ?


Hmm...

 

[Miller Time]

I'll always maintain that Slafkovsky was a legitimate choice in 2022. If the rushing busts him, so be it.

The Habs are the only team with a top 2022 draft pick to have rushed the player.

Jiricek has 2pts/9games while playing <14min a night on bottom pairing for the jackets...

I'm curious why that's not considered rushed? Is his development bring ruined because he's playing small minutes (less than Slaf who is a fwd) and producing little?

 

[Miller Time]

Not sure how many times it needs to be proven that having an enforcer is not at all a deterrent. Especially guys that are strictly enforcers since they live and die by the idiotic “code”. They don’t just grab and punch players, they need signed permission.

I was interested in us signing Reaves to a 1-yr deal solely for the purpose of playing in games vs other "enforcers" so that X could focus on playing and not get pulled into stupid fights vs plugs as he did last year... But otherwise agree 100%.



Crazy that the Laffs gave him 3yrs at a cap premium for what he does. Pointless signing for them. Couldn't be happier lol

 

[Tyson]

Not sure how many times it needs to be proven that having an enforcer is not at all a deterrent. Especially guys that are strictly enforcers since they live and die by the idiotic “code”. They don’t just grab and punch players, they need signed permission.

Didn't he maul Ryan Graves a few years ago? A total unwilling player.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Lavoie's parents along with his friends and family got an interview for his first NHL game

 

[Redux91]

Lavoie's parents along with his friends and family got an interview for his first NHL game

Coulda scooped for free

 

[the valiant effort]

Living out west one of the things that has helped me not care about the irrelevancy of the Habs is the Draisaitl/McDavid show. Woe is me

 

[Team_Spirit]

 

[NotProkofievian]

Jiricek has 2pts/9games while playing <14min a night on bottom pairing for the jackets...

I'm curious why that's not considered rushed? Is his development bring ruined because he's playing small minutes (less than Slaf who is a fwd) and producing little?

People don't say that Jiricek was rushed because he wasn't rushed. They put him in the AHL for the year, he excelled, and now he's getting his shot. If Slaf had been sent to the AHL, killed it there, and then was given his shot this year, I think people would be cool with that.

 

[Tyson]

I didn't expect Edmonton and Calgary to be this bad. Holy smokes

 

[ReHabs]

Jiricek has 2pts/9games while playing <14min a night on bottom pairing for the jackets...

I'm curious why that's not considered rushed? Is his development bring ruined because he's playing small minutes (less than Slaf who is a fwd) and producing little?

The guy played his D+1 in the AHL and did very well, by all accounts, now he’s being slowly integrated to the NHL team and doing well enough for a rookie dman, by all accounts.

Player earns promotion, is slowly bled into the roster as he earns more trust and responsibilities. Perfect development strategy.

What’s your question?

I didn't expect Edmonton and Calgary to be this bad. Holy smokes

Sad to say but I really feel McDavid deserves no better than this for trusting Edmonton.

 

[Miller Time]

People don't say that Jiricek was rushed because he wasn't rushed. They put him in the AHL for the year, he excelled, and now he's getting his shot. If Slaf had been sent to the AHL, killed it there, and then was given his shot this year, I think people would be cool with that.

Even if Slaf was doing exactly the same?

That makes little sense and speaks to a foredrawn conclusion.

Regardless of where the player played last season, the waiver freedom to play them in AHL or NHL is the same...

Seems contradictory to suggest a 19 year old D getting less usage than a 19 year old fwd isn't being rushed but the latter is.

Like much of the fan/media commentary & hysteria bubbling up these days, the takes often suffer a lack of consistency

 

[Team_Spirit]

I didn't expect Edmonton and Calgary to be this bad. Holy smokes

Modern problems require modern solutions

 

[Miller Time]

I didn't expect Edmonton and Calgary to be this bad. Holy smokes

I'm not as surprised by Calgary... They needed Huberdeau/Kadri to bounce back significantly to be better and both continue to play well below what they were paid to bring...

The oilers, on the other hand, are a hot mess. Gotta wonder how much longer Holland holds out before making a drastic change. Ship is sinking fast!

 

[Picaroon]

The guy played his D+1 in the AHL and did very well, by all accounts, now he’s being slowly integrated to the NHL team and doing well enough for a rookie dman, by all accounts.

Player earns promotion, is slowly bled into the roster as he earns more trust and responsibilities. Perfect development strategy.

What’s your question?


Sad to say but I really feel McDavid deserves no better than this for trusting Edmonton.

What a bizarre thing to say...

Time for Edmonton to get a defensive oriented, no nonsense coach. I like Woodcroft but I don't think he has the personality to get these superstars to commit to defence. Holland has also done the team no favours. Hopefully they make some changes asap as it would be criminal not to win a cup with this core.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Even if Slaf was doing exactly the same?

That makes little sense and speaks to a foredrawn conclusion.

Regardless of where the player played last season, the waiver freedom to play them in AHL or NHL is the same...

Seems contradictory to suggest a 19 year old D getting less usage than a 19 year old fwd isn't being rushed but the latter is.

Like much of the fan/media commentary & hysteria bubbling up these days, the takes often suffer a lack of consistency

This is really difficult to follow. Yeah I think I would be okay if Slaf had been excellent in the AHL last year, and took a little while to get going this year, and I would have preferred that situation to him being an NHL failure last year, and so far looking no different this year. What part of that is confusing to you?

 

[Miller Time]

This is really difficult to follow. Yeah I think I would be okay if Slaf had been excellent in the AHL last year, and took a little while to get going this year, and I would have preferred that situation to him being an NHL failure last year, and so far looking no different this year. What part of that is confusing to you?

Nothing. It's just poor reasoning.

 

[HomaridII]

So who do we want from the Oilers in exchange for Allen.

 

[ReHabs]

Nothing. It's just poor reasoning.

It’s certainly not a surprise you feel confident to criticize this development philosophy.

What a bizarre thing to say...

Best player in the sport shouldn’t tie himself to a loser organization for a max term contract. It’s all downside no upside. I love him and he’s magic but he should’ve known better. He left his career in the hands of Peter Chiarelli.

 

[Miller Time]

So who do we want from the Oilers in exchange for Allen.

Prying Holloway out of Edm would be awesome...