HF Habs: Out of Town Thread: Off-Season Edition

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Bruins re-sign Jakub Lauko. I remember here people thought Montreal was stupid for passing on him. He's not better than Harris, but better than Hillis.

The draft group here liked that draft a lot of useless players were drafted.

If people like it here, or don't, has no indication if it's good, or bad.

 

[DAChampion]

Commentators tend to go for BPA — which as far as we are allowed to know is the consensus list, such as Bobby Mac’s consolidated one. It’s the default option.

For the Habs spot Zadina was consensus that year, Wright was consensus that year all the way up until the last week, and Michkov was consensus this year.

Now obviously the consensus pick isn’t always the pick that’s made, and obviously there have been and will be times that the team breaking from consensus will get a better result than sticking to it.

For the life of me I don’t understand trying to dunk on other fans for merely preferring the default option. If it was “do you think the team got it wrong with this trade or that hire?” dunking on those who got it wrong makes more sense but the draft is enough of a randomized exercise by itself that anyone dunking will surely have gotten it wrong many times in the past themselves

I'm much more interested in reading about the reasoning behind a pick, the relative pros and cons, the philosophy behind it, etc than "omg management so dumb I know better". The former yields insight and also demonstrate insight, the latter feigns insight, it's phoney like virtue signaling is but it's meant to signal expertise and wisdom where there is demonstrably little to none. It adds noise to the forum.

I've been on this forum for several years. There are types of arguments that yield insight, for example the discussions of deployment, development, trades, tend to be interesting.

Two classes of argument though are particularly vapid:

1) Player comparisons.
2) "aaahhh the Habs drafted the wrong guy !!!"

It doesn't lead anywhere. It's just signalling.

 

[Runner77]

Two classes of argument though are particularly vapid:

1) Player comparisons.
2) "aaahhh the Habs drafted the wrong guy !!!"

It doesn't lead anywhere. It's just signalling.

I believe I’ve found the user profile behind those vapid stances:

 

[Rapala]

He ended up filling the waiver wire instead, with hopelessness:



Apparently he doesn’t want to report to the Wings’ AHL team and will forego millions owed to him on his contract.

How smart is that, when no one claimed him?

I wonder if he could have had a better chance of getting picked up when teams traditionally start waiving players at or near the end of camp.
Some GM's might go into panic mode when they realize how bad their teams are. Strange timing even if he does become a free agent.

 

[waffledave]

What schism?

The draft is over — people had different ideas and views on how this losing organization should stop losing. As far as I can tell there hasn’t been a big exodus of Habs fans. It doesn’t work that way.

Dude @BenchBrawl has literally lost his marbles completely and every other post in every thread is about Michkov. There is a whole thread on the front page specifically created so Michkovites can mourn in peace.

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

Dude @BenchBrawl has literally lost his marbles completely and every other post in every thread is about Michkov. There is a whole thread on the front page specifically created so Michkovites can mourn in peace.

Ignore is your friend. Meanwhile, how can you tell the difference?

I wonder if he could have had a better chance of getting picked up when teams traditionally start waiving players at or near the end of camp.
Some GM's might go into panic mode when they realize how bad their teams are. Strange timing even if he does become a free agent.

Hopefully the Habs pick him up and he gets introduced to the bespectacled lady from draft day.

 

[BenchBrawl]

IIRC, I was down to go with Kotkaniemi, although I hadn't followed the draft to the same extent as this year or last year.

My thinking was that since it was a crapshoot starting at the 3OA, might as well take the center, something we had been missing for years (and Suzuki hadn't yet arrived back then).

 

[BenchBrawl]

I'm also wary of picking a winger with a high draft pick, in general.

Exception is when I believe the winger is a play driver and has the potential to be a franchise player. I thought Michkov qualified, hence why I wanted him over the rest.

It is a fact winning teams are usually build around centers, defensemen and goalies though.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Dude @BenchBrawl has literally lost his marbles completely and every other post in every thread is about Michkov. There is a whole thread on the front page specifically created so Michkovites can mourn in peace.

You're the one pestering me nonstop since 2-3 days. Give me a break. I have enough haters in this section I don't need you to add to the pile.

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[Runner77]

Another guy transitioning to a stud farm and enjoying his millions. Things we can only dream about! Good for him.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

You're the one pestering me nonstop since 2-3 days. Give me a break. I have enough haters in this section I don't need you to add to the pile.

 

[BenchBrawl]

I love haters when they push me to greater trolling heights.

Great meme though!

 

[Frankenheimer]

Not really.

HF Habs: - Final Team Board Draft Poll - Pick #3

Since the official HF Team Boards Draft in April, alot of debate has gone on over the course of the weeks and perhaps opinions have changed. With the draft coming up in just two weeks, thought it'd be interesting to see where the board stands.

forums.hfboards.com

Now, while you're at it, you can simply delete the Michkov bookmarks, because he has 100x Zadina's talent. It's a lame 1= 1 comparison. I had good reasons to think Zadina would flop. If teams passed on Michkov, it's not necause they thought he'd flop and more has to do with lockerroom dynamics, his character and that Russian thing.

I highly doubt he will bust.

I also did not spot your name in the votes. It's one thing to call back people on their votes when you picked the right one(s), but it's another thing altogether when you don't wet yourself and then do the same.

This entire thread is very enlightening. Thanks.

 

[Belial]

I wonder if he could have had a better chance of getting picked up when teams traditionally start waiving players at or near the end of camp.
Some GM's might go into panic mode when they realize how bad their teams are. Strange timing even if he does become a free agent.

I think no one picked him up because it was known in the inner circles that this was a move to terminate his contract.

 

[DAChampion]

Is there an way Montreal can add Zadina?

 

[Habs Halifax]

Is there an way Montreal can add Zadina?

Not sure. If they buy him out, I doubt he signs with us. Both Montreal and Laval don't really have room for him and he would be looking to go to a team he can crack the NHL roster. Habs are not going to put more faith in him over RHP, Newhook, Slaf, Roy, Heineman, Farrell.

I think if we add anybody, it's going to be a right handed shot winger. One guy I was looking at last week was T Foerster on the Flyers. NHL ready and I'm hoping they are strong at RW and have needs in other areas.

 

[Belial]

Is there an way Montreal can add Zadina?

Well if they terminate his contract he can sign with any team in the league.

 

[ngc_5128]

Ignore is your friend. Meanwhile, how can you tell the difference?


Hopefully the Habs pick him up and he gets introduced to the bespectacled lady from draft day.

I believe that lady was his billet.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Is there an way Montreal can add Zadina?

Yes.

Should they ?

Absolutely not.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Zadina lol

What about CULTURE?

 

[Adam Michaels]

Is there an way Montreal can add Zadina?

No, thank you.

I'd rather they give RHP and Ylonen those spots. And I'd actually rather have Hoffman in the line-up before I do Zadina.

 

[NotProkofievian]

No, thank you.

I'd rather they give RHP and Ylonen those spots. And I'd actually rather have Hoffman in the line-up before I do Zadina.

Unbelievably poor judgement. Hope it works out for him.

 

[SnapVirus]

No, thank you.

I'd rather they give RHP and Ylonen those spots. And I'd actually rather have Hoffman in the line-up before I do Zadina.

One thing is for sure. He has balls and he doesnt want to play for « money » because he’ll maybe never get those 4M$ back again.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Unbelievably poor judgement. Hope it works out for him.

Yup. Kid is only 23. So it's not like he's to be thrown away. But so far, things have not worked out for him. And this whole situation, signing a 3-year deal and then wanting out a year later doesn't sound like good judgment.