HF Habs: Out of Town Thread: 2024 Playoff Edition

[The Real Timo]

Just imagine if (God forbid) we draft a D yet again....

Is there a doubt?

 

[MarkovsKnee]

HfBoards doctors doing overtime between Lindstrom’s medical reports and Bettman’s disorders.

@Andrei79 is an actual MD, though.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Doesn't look like it. It's likely just essential tremors.

Yeah, he doesn't have that shuffling gait. I figured he was just in the early stages. Plus, it's really the only disease I know with tremors.

 

[Toene]

Yeah, he doesn't have that shuffling gait. I figured he was just in the early stages. Plus, it's really the only disease I know with tremors.

Essential tremor - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

The Reinbacher v. Michkov debate won't be resolved until they actually start their NHL careers, but I get why we're still discussing it. A top-5 pick during a rebuild is a big deal. The chance to draft a potential star forward is something Montreal hasn't had in decades. We've just learned a big reason for not picking Michkov has evaporated. So now what? We can be Zen about it – "No guarantees with draft picks", "Every team makes mistakes", "No way to know if he succeeds here" – all of which is true. However if Michkov becomes a top forward it will be a huge miss by Montreal's scouts and a huge opportunity lost.

Yeah, lots of teams miss big. Unfortunately, that's why lots of teams never become contenders.

Repeating this for emphasis: "The Reinbacher v. Michkov debate won't be resolved until they actually start their NHL careers..."

Like most people, I was disappointed when we didn’t take Michkov. Habs felt RB was a better option. Partially because of positional scarcity I’m sure.

I also was extremely disappointed that we took Slaf over Wright. I’m not disappointed anymore.

Bottom line: most of us haven’t seen much of these players. Like everyone here, I have opinions but they’re mostly based on what I’ve read not what I’ve seen.

The mgmt group has won my trust. Maybe it will turn out to be a mistake but we’ll see. In the meantime, I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

For the game tonight - McDavid has 11 points in the finals. Record all time is 13 by Gretzky

McDavid has 42 playoff points - Gretzky is #1 at 47, and Lemieux #2 at 44.

47 is probably out of reach. But I'd love to see McDavid with 3 points to get 14 in finals, and move into #2 behind Gretzky and pass Lemieux's 44 (Im a huuuuge Mario fan - doesn't matter, records are meant to be broken).

I want Oilers to win but I especially hope to see a legendary game from McDavid to cap off this amazing comeback.

Tough loss for him tonight. Regardless, amazing accomplishment to get into the conversation with those guys.

However, it’s important to remember that he racked up those points in a lot more games.

 

[Miller Time]

They retained salary on Korpisalo, too.

I wonder if Ullmark resigns in Ottawa.

I don't think they gave up all that much. They needed out from Korpisalo's contract. That's done.

Kastelic is a 4th line center, who didn't do much for Ottawa. He got benched for lack of physicality in games. We'll see if playing in Boston changes that. He can fight, but he'll glide away from finishing his checks more than he should.

That leaves the 25th overall pick, which was originally Boston's pick.

I mean just getting rid of Korpisalo would cost them a late 1st. He has 4 years left on his contract.

Indeed. I'm surprised that this is the best the Bs could do...

Bahl + '25 1st from Jersey would've been better than kastelic, Korpisalo & 25OA imo.

Great deal for Ottawa. If he fits in, re-signed Ullmark gives them their #1 for years to come... If he doesn't want to extend, as long as he's healthy by mid-season, they'll be able to flip him for some decent deadline assets.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

They're desperate and going crazy with the massive missed opportunity they endured with this core.

Datsyuk had a bad reputation in the playoffs too... until he didn't.

Getting rid of Marner is an extremely dangerous move. He's a very very good player. Keefe was not fit to coach him.

The Leafs have too much of the same player and not enough elsewhere. Marner hasn’t shown up for years.

Yes, he could turn it around. It is a risk. But they’re keeping a couple of studs who’ve produced better when it matters and freeing up cap space to help in other areas. I think trading Marner is the right move and have advocated for this for a long time now.

Fortunately they didn’t do it. More fortunately, I’m not a Leaf fan.

 

[Banjo Cat]

The mgmt group has won my trust. Maybe it it will turn out to be a mistake but we’ll see. In the meantime, I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt.

What else can you do really? I mean it's not even our mistake to make. I voted for Tij on the draft poll yesterday. I might be wrong about who is the best pick. But I am not making the decision anyways, and I don't get paid for it. All we can do is give management a chance and hope for the best. We don't decide what the GM does or who gets the job of GM in the first place.

 

[bobholly39]

Tough loss for him tonight. Regardless, amazing accomplishment to get into the conversation with those guys.

However, it’s important to remember that he racked up those points in a lot more games.

Of course. You won't find too many fans on here who think more highly of Gretzky or Lemieux than I do

So yes - more games. Still think with a stellar game 7 and the all-time record for final points, combined with the 0-3 comeback it would have been in contention for #1 best playoff run ever.

As it ends up - because Oilers fell short and McDavid couldn't get through in games 6 and 7, it no longer is as high as #1 to me. Its up there, but just a little ways back.

A super fun playoff run to follow as a neutral fan

 

[bobholly39]

Side note - it's insane how toxic the main boards are towards players like McDavid or Crosby

So many idiotic posts/threads I'm seeing this morning of people jumping all over McDavid for losing. Similarly, so many McDavid supporters constantly needing to bash Crosby to shreds to talk up their guy, or vice-versa.

Why can't both guys be great and worthy of praise without the constant need to bash one guy in order to prop up another?

 

[salbutera]

Side note - it's insane how toxic the main boards are towards players like McDavid or Crosby

So many idiotic posts/threads I'm seeing this morning of people jumping all over McDavid for losing. Similarly, so many McDavid supporters constantly needing to bash Crosby to shreds to talk up their guy, or vice-versa.

Why can't both guys be great and worthy of praise without the constant need to bash one guy in order to prop up another?

Once again hockey proves itself as being the ultimate TEAM game, regardless of how good an individual player is…

 

[ReHabs]

Once again hockey proves itself as being the ultimate TEAM game, regardless of how good an individual player is…

Or in McDavid's case, how bad his team is.

Hopefully McDavid joins a serious organisation as soon as he can.

 

[CHarlie]

Necas to Winnipeg?

 

[Heffyhoof]

I would just like to make mention of how awful Sportsnet is. Because I live in nothern Canada where the population is smaller, they regularly don't care about providing proper service. At least 5 times a game the feed cuts out for multiple minutes and this time it lasted the entire last 13 minutes of the Stanely Cup final.

The reason I know it's Sportsnet is not only does my internet clearly work, I found an 'illegal' Sportsnet stream that I could cast to my TV. Hopefully RDS provides a better service.

 

[dcyhabs]

Just imagine if (God forbid) we draft a D yet again....

I was thinking that would be a good thing but it doesn’t look like any of the D are going to be the #1 the habs need. All would need some massive improvements in at least one aspect.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Nightmare

https://x.com/i/web/status/1805430349817667731

 

[Frank Drebin]

Tough night last night but deep down I expected it.

 

[ReHabs]

Happy for Paul Maurice

Glad the Oilers’ awful ownership/management wasn’t vindicated

McDavid needs to win a few cups, he’s so good.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Once again hockey proves itself as being the ultimate TEAM game, regardless of how good an individual player is…

It’s hard to win with a slow defence.

Watching Ceci, Nurse, Bouchard, etc. being forechecked to death must have been a painful experience for Oilers fans. The Panthers had no respect for the Oilers’ defence and simply employed a dump and chase tactic knowing that on most occasions their forwards would beat the Oilers’ defense to the puck. As a result, for most of the Series, it was like a chaotic fire drill in the Oilers’ defensive zone. That resulting chaos provides a cautionary tale for the many Montreal fans who are seemingly anxious to trade away our most mobile defencemen.

Oilers lost this series at the trade deadline when Holland failed to upgrade the mobility of his defence.

Frankly, without the brilliance of McDavid, the Oilers aren’t a playoff team..

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

So Happy the oilers didn't win , that franchise deserves to bottom feed for another 10 years.

McDavid is unreal , he really had to go Lemieux/Gretzky for them to get there

 

[Ezpz]

So Happy the oilers didn't win , that franchise deserves to bottom feed for another 10 years.

McDavid is unreal , he really had to go Lemieux/Gretzky for them to get there

I hate oilers fans couldn't enjoy them winning. Kinda like 2011 where Vancouver fans made me hate them more than Boston

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Of course. You won't find too many fans on here who think more highly of Gretzky or Lemieux than I do

So yes - more games. Still think with a stellar game 7 and the all-time record for final points, combined with the 0-3 comeback it would have been in contention for #1 best playoff run ever.

As it ends up - because Oilers fell short and McDavid couldn't get through in games 6 and 7, it no longer is as high as #1 to me. Its up there, but just a little ways back.

A super fun playoff run to follow as a neutral fan

What’s really impressive is that he did it on an otherwise mediocre club. It’s one of the best runs of all time without a doubt. Any time you’re in a conversation that includes Mario and Gretz you know it’s fantastic.

And he absolutely deserved the Smythe.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Nightmare

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Yeah, I couldn't believe he didn't score there. But, Bob moves across and gets that leg in the way. McDavid didn't have time to shoot where he wanted. D's stick is already there.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I was thinking that would be a good thing but it doesn’t look like any of the D are going to be the #1 the habs need. All would need some massive improvements in at least one aspect.

I don’t get how you can say this. Guhle is 22 and already playing massive minutes. He’s going to improve. The rest of our future D core hasn’t even played yet.