Ottawa 67's 2022-23 Season Thread

[NoQuit67s]

Bang on. Never out of it.
Great two points from a sub par performance. Take the W and start the bus.

I also think the 67s made a good adjustment to their offense in the third period by dumping and chasing pucks deep into the Missy zone rather than carrying it in over the opposition blue line.
In the first two, the Steelheads were standing us up and hitting our forwards at their blue line, often breaking our flow and causing all kinds of turnovers. Their penalty kill was also aggressively pressing our D trying to move the puck out of our zone.
Good on the Ottawa coaches for that.

 

[Robray12]

So lets just say they were fortunate to win today....but it works both ways sometimes they should have won and they don't.

One thing I have noticed is Our you ger players are getting some vsru valuable ice time and winning experience....our fourth line and young rookie D are the most skilled I have seen in yesrs.

This will lead to the 67s being dominate in the next few years as we have some very talented players coming up.

 

[OMG67]

I also think the 67s made a good adjustment to their offense in the third period by dumping and chasing pucks deep into the Missy zone rather than carrying it in over the opposition blue line.
In the first two, the Steelheads were standing us up and hitting our forwards at their blue line, often breaking our flow and causing all kinds of turnovers. Their penalty kill was also aggressively pressing our D trying to move the puck out of our zone.
Good on the Ottawa coaches for that.

Good call. I was wondering how well the 67’s would do with last change against a bigger Steelheads team and the speed comes through when you see them retrieve in the corners. The bigger guys can’t hold you up on entry when you don’t have the puck. Great adjustment and something to look at going forward.

Not to look past Erie tomorrow but the boys have NorthBay and Peterborough on the road this weekend before returning home for a Sunday game against Sudbury. The /north Bay and Peterborough games will be tough games on the road. A really good test. The Petes and North bay are both rolling right now. IMO, this will be the big test to see what holes need to be filled at the deadline. There are only a small handful of really tough matchups remaining before the deadline. I really think this weekend is the biggest test left pre-deadline. Back to back against two of the other top three teams in the Conference.

 

[NoQuit67s]

Another observation:
Loved the message Smyth made when trying to make a big hit on a Missy forward in the 2nd.
He got a penalty but definitely sent a message. He is playing a valuable physical role we could not get from the likes of Gill-Shane.
Constantini filled in huge time today with Mayich out. He is crafty and more and more confident. Not sure any upgrade is needed there. Lets load up with an OA (hopefully Morrison) and another impact 19yo, and lets go! Shit 18 and 1. might not last but here we are!

 

[OMG67]

Another observation:
Loved the message Smyth made when trying to make a big hit on a Missy forward in the 2nd.
He got a penalty but definitely sent a message. He is playing a valuable physical role we could not get from the likes of Gill-Shane.
Constantini filled in huge time today with Mayich out. He is crafty and more and more confident. Not sure any upgrade is needed there. Lets load up with an OA (hopefully Morrison) and another impact 19yo, and lets go! Shit 18 and 1. might not last but here we are!

The concern I have is the reliance on the 17 year olds. It is great that they are doing well. I have zero doubt that Pinelli will continue his pace. I feel somewhat comfortable with Gardiner Because he’s a centre that can move to the wing if he starts to get a little overmatched. I like what I’ve seen from Barlas, Foster and Ewles but can we honestly put that much faith in that many 17 year olds? Dever and quick are also in the mix up front If depth is required.

The second half of the season gets tougher. Really tough. The playoffs even more so. Look at 2019. 14 straight wins to start the playoffs and then out four straight to Guelph with their crazy depth and one injury to DiPietro.

If someone could say we would not experience any key injuries, I would be comfortable with no additions other than an OA. But, let’s say Matier and Tolnai go down in the playoffs. Down one centre which puts Gardiner as the #2 Centre and Foster or Barlas as the #3 centre. Costantini’s is our #1 D-Man. How does that look?

Sometimes it isn’t enough to just look at the roster and a relatively healthy team and think we are good to go. It is about risk mitigation as well. How much do you want to spend on risk mitigation and what does that do to the roster overall?

What if Wright returns and he gets traded to Peterborough in a blockbuster and the Petes also add a significant OA on top of that? How well do we match up with our 17 year olds? What if Mintyukov ends up in North Bay? How does the landscape change?

Do we go into a knife fight holding a gun or a bazooka? Or do we go in with a knife and get shot dead?

Some really tough decisions await.

 

[analyser]

I think that should Kitchener decide to sell maybe we should look at Serpa and Schmidt. This would give us some added dept at both center and D. Both are decent players and would improve our overall depth in case of injuries to some of our experienced players. Then add more if it makes sense and the price is right. I personally would like to see us acquire Morrison and Kyrou but the cost would be high.

Should Peterborough and North Bay land the big prizes then we just may have to back off as it makes no sense to empty the cupboard if our chances have decreased significantly. We might have to even look at selling off some players if demand warrants it. I guess we have to wait and see what happens closer to deadline time and adjust our plans as the situation dictates.

I know we are doing well in the standings but with other teams improving and healthy we will have to gage our chances as the season progresses. I would like to see us go for it but what will be the cost and can we acquire the necessary pieces.

 

[Robray12]

I think that should Kitchener decide to sell maybe we should look at Serpa and Schmidt. This would give us some added dept at both center and D. Both are decent players and would improve our overall depth in case of injuries to some of our experienced players. Then add more if it makes sense and the price is right. I personally would like to see us acquire Morrison and Kyrou but the cost would be high.

Should Peterborough and North Bay land the big prizes then we just may have to back off as it makes no sense to empty the cupboard if our chances have decreased significantly. We might have to even look at selling off some players if demand warrants it. I guess we have to wait and see what happens closer to deadline time and adjust our plans as the situation dictates.

I know we are doing well in the standings but with other teams improving and healthy we will have to gage our chances as the season progresses. I would like to see us go for it but what will be the cost and can we acquire the necessary pieces.

We obviously could use some insurance talent for the playoffs....how about Wright? I'm sure he is returning soon....would be top line and could add more buzz around this stellar team.

 

[analyser]

We obviously could use some insurance talent for the playoffs....how about Wright? I'm sure he is returning soon....would be top line and could add more buzz around this stellar team.

Wright would be great but at what cost? Their will be a bidding war for his services. I think Morrison would be sufficient and would be more reasonable cost wise. As OMG said earlier we need depth and 1 player will not fill the void. Should other teams add significant pieces plus we run into injuries then trouble on the horizon.

 

[OMG67]

We obviously could use some insurance talent for the playoffs....how about Wright? I'm sure he is returning soon....would be top line and could add more buzz around this stellar team.

Cost for Shane Wright would likely be:
Marrelli
Three 2nds
Three 3rds

 

[OMG67]

I think that should Kitchener decide to sell maybe we should look at Serpa and Schmidt. This would give us some added dept at both center and D. Both are decent players and would improve our overall depth in case of injuries to some of our experienced players. Then add more if it makes sense and the price is right. I personally would like to see us acquire Morrison and Kyrou but the cost would be high.

Should Peterborough and North Bay land the big prizes then we just may have to back off as it makes no sense to empty the cupboard if our chances have decreased significantly. We might have to even look at selling off some players if demand warrants it. I guess we have to wait and see what happens closer to deadline time and adjust our plans as the situation dictates.

I know we are doing well in the standings but with other teams improving and healthy we will have to gage our chances as the season progresses. I would like to see us go for it but what will be the cost and can we acquire the necessary pieces.

I think Schmidt would be more expensive than we think. Big boy that contributes offensively. NHL drafted player. That may be a tough purchase. It may be more defence than we need and less forward than we need. If Kurosawa doesn’t cost a 20221st then the price difference probably isn’t all that much between those two players. Maybe an extra 2nd and 3rd for Kyrou?

I just can’t get my head around who comes out of the lineup on the defence if we add a D-Man. We may simply have to hope we don’t get a key injury. I’m not sure I see the puzzle pieces fitting together on adding a D-Man. I’m not sure we can justify taking Sirman out with the way he is playing and Smyth has been great. That means we’d need to look at benching Mews and Ewles and let them press box it the rest of true season. I’m not sure that is ideal either.

 

[analyser]

I think Schmidt would be more expensive than we think. Big boy that contributes offensively. NHL drafted player. That may be a tough purchase. It may be more defence than we need and less forward than we need. If Kurosawa doesn’t cost a 20221st then the price difference probably isn’t all that much between those two players. Maybe an extra 2nd and 3rd for Kyrou?

I just can’t get my head around who comes out of the lineup on the defence if we add a D-Man. We may simply have to hope we don’t get a key injury. I’m not sure I see the puzzle pieces fitting together on adding a D-Man. I’m not sure we can justify taking Sirman out with the way he is playing and Smyth has been great. That means we’d need to look at benching Mews and Ewles and let them press box it the rest of true season. I’m not sure that is ideal either.

It may be a little much with Schmidt but I have never heard a contending team say oh no we do not need additional defensive help. Should Matier go down we would have a very capable replacement. Tough decisions will have to be made prior to acquiring additional D help and some egos may get tested depending on Management's thoughts. Hopefully the situation can be resolved and it turns out okay for both team and players.

Another issue of concern has to be Jack Beck. He is a good player when healthy but another hit and he can be gone for the year. David Krejci of the OHL. With him in the lineup our chances improve greatly.

Should we decide to leave the defence as is I hope we could possibly get Morrson and another decent forward. The apple cart may get upset regardless which way we go. Some players are going to see their ice time diminish or disappear.

 

[OMG67]

It may be a little much with Schmidt but I have never heard a contending team say oh no we do not need additional defensive help. Should Matier go down we would have a very capable replacement. Tough decisions will have to be made prior to acquiring additional D help and some egos may get tested depending on Management's thoughts. Hopefully the situation can be resolved and it turns out okay for both team and players.

Another issue of concern has to be Jack Beck. He is a good player when healthy but another hit and he can be gone for the year. David Krejci of the OHL. With him in the lineup our chances improve greatly.

Should we decide to leave the defence as is I hope we could possibly get Morrson and another decent forward. The apple cart may get upset regardless which way we go. Some players are going to see their ice time diminish or disappear.

Well, I’m not worried about egos on the forward side. I think there is more than enough room for two forwards. The 4th line could be Gardiner centring two of Barlas, Foster or Gerrior with the other one on the wing of the 3rd line.

Pinelli -Morrison - Rohrer
Beck - Tolnai - Boucher
Stonehouse - Zhilkin - Foster
Barlas - Gardiner - Gerrior

I can’t see that lineup with any noses out of joint. During the regular season, the 4th line gets in the regular 5 on 5 rotation for ice time. The older players all play a little less but stay fresh and healthy.

On defence, it would need to be Mews/Ewles that comes out of the lineup to make room.

Mayich - Matier
Sirman - Costantini
Smyth - Kyrou

I just don’t like taking Mews out of the lineup. That said, he has been healthy scratched since his return from the u-17 tourney so maybe they aren’t all that handcuffed to him as a starter?

I’ve used names as placeholders. They could be anyone else traded for but shows the example. Although I do like Kyrou because he is a righty and if you take Mews out, you are better bringing in a Righty. Clearly I don’t think Ottawa would go get three players of that calibre.

 

[LDN]

So are the 67s legit. 18 wins in 19 has to be one of the best starts.

 

[OMG67]

So are the 67s legit. 18 wins in 19 has to be one of the best starts.

Honestly, it depends on what you mean by LEGIT.

The 67’s have been fortunate to win a few games they shouldn’t have. They also have had a lot of soft games but that is mostly because the league looks pretty soft.

They are doing it on the backs of a lot of 17 year olds and we both know how long that usually lasts.

Are they a .950% team? OF course not. Could they settle in and finish somewhere around the .800+% mark? Yes. I think that should be the expectation provided they do add a significant piece or two at the deadline.

 

[LDN]

Honestly, it depends on what you mean by LEGIT.

The 67’s have been fortunate to win a few games they shouldn’t have. They also have had a lot of soft games but that is mostly because the league looks pretty soft.

They are doing it on the backs of a lot of 17 year olds and we both know how long that usually lasts.

Are they a .950% team? OF course not. Could they settle in and finish somewhere around the .800+% mark? Yes. I think that should be the expectation provided they do add a significant piece or two at the deadline.

That’s very good. Do they look like they’ll clean up in the playoffs?

 

[OMG67]

That’s very good. Do they look like they’ll clean up in the playoffs?

I think one team is going to come out of the middle of the pack like Guelph did in 2019 and gobble up a lot of players and make a run because the league is soft. It just feel like it. There seems to be too many OA’s potentially available and some elite players that don’t quite qualify for 1st round pick returns.

I could see a team with enough draft capital eating up two OA’s, Mintyukov and a player like Zhilkin and make a push. Shuffle some bad eggs out and reuse those assets to acquire the other players in a similar way as Guelph.

Ottawa is too young IMO to stay status quo. Not realistic to assume 17 year olds can carry as much as they are carrying now. We’ll see what they do heading into the deadline.

 

[mianjo]

67's lead 1-0


1ST 1:15 #20 Luca Pinelli (12) Assists: #24 Vinzenz Rohrer

2-0


1ST 5:16 #23 Will Gerrior (2) scores. Assists: #9 Chris Barlas

2-1

3-1

1ST 12:37 #12 Anthony Costantini (4) scores. Assists: #8 Frankie Marrelli, #29 Cooper Foster (Marrelli's first point)

4-1

1ST 17:57 #28 Caden Kelly (2) scores. Assists: #8 Frankie Marrelli, #12 Anthony Costantini

 

[mianjo]

4-2 PP

4-3 PP

4-4 PP

4-5

67's have twice had to deal with 5 on 3's

PP
0/3
3/7

 

[BarberPole9]

I think that should Kitchener decide to sell maybe we should look at Serpa and Schmidt. This would give us some added dept at both center and D. Both are decent players and would improve our overall depth in case of injuries to some of our experienced players. Then add more if it makes sense and the price is right. I personally would like to see us acquire Morrison and Kyrou but the cost would be high.

Should Peterborough and North Bay land the big prizes then we just may have to back off as it makes no sense to empty the cupboard if our chances have decreased significantly. We might have to even look at selling off some players if demand warrants it. I guess we have to wait and see what happens closer to deadline time and adjust our plans as the situation dictates.

I know we are doing well in the standings but with other teams improving and healthy we will have to gage our chances as the season progresses. I would like to see us go for it but what will be the cost and can we acquire the necessary pieces.

This team has been a wagon all year, in spite of selling off three 19 year olds in Sawyer, Johnston and Gill-Shane and 20 year old NHL drafted Will Cranley in the preseason.

If they don’t add to an 18-1 team, while having a boatload of picks, they never, ever will. I’m not advocating for major changes, just 2-3 major upgrades to stretch out the star players. A top 2/3D, OA Center and one more physical, scoring forward up front and this team will be hard to stop.

Make no mistake, Peterborough and North Bay will go all in, in an attempt to overcome Ottawa‘a current team. If James Boyd responds, I love our chances. If they have to trade more than they want, they can reset next year in an OHL Mem Cup hosting year and make another big run when our 17 year olds are 19.

 

[mianjo]

4-6 Final empty netter

 

[OHLoutsider2020]

4-6 Final empty netter

About as ugly as it gets. Tough lesson, but it may speed up the process to make some trades.

 

[sirius67fan]

Back to earth boys lol... What a comical second period, the turning point was that 2 man kill to start the second, gave erie life.

 

[Generalsupdates]

This team has been a wagon all year, in spite of selling off three 19 year olds in Sawyer, Johnston and Gill-Shane and 20 year old NHL drafted Will Cranley in the preseason.

If they don’t add to an 18-1 team, while having a boatload of picks, they never, ever will. I’m not advocating for major changes, just 2-3 major upgrades to stretch out the star players. A top 2/3D, OA Center and one more physical, scoring forward up front and this team will be hard to stop.

Make no mistake, Peterborough and North Bay will go all in, in an attempt to overcome Ottawa‘a current team. If James Boyd responds, I love our chances. If they have to trade more than they want, they can reset next year in an OHL Mem Cup hosting year and make another big run when our 17 year olds are 19.

With both teams how they're currently constructed, you'd take Ottawa over Peterborough in a 7 game playoff series? 18-2 is insanely impressive but I think OTT would come in as an underdog in that hypothetical series, even with home ice advantage. That Petes offence now with Othmann is crazy

 

[OMG67]

With both teams how they're currently constructed, you'd take Ottawa over Peterborough in a 7 game playoff series? 18-2 is insanely impressive but I think OTT would come in as an underdog in that hypothetical series, even with home ice advantage. That Petes offence now with Othmann is crazy

I agree. I think Peterborough is the stronger team. The difference is the ability to add. Ottawa has a much stronger ability to add. That is the difference maker. If they don’t add then they are behind for sure. Far too young.

Awful game today. Sloppy and slow. Erie was buzzing in the 2nd and took full advantage. You can’t blame the officiating. Ottawa took penalties that were either careless or lazy plays that resulted in the penalty.

I do have a question though. Are there some Ottawa players sick? Donoso plays all three games this weekend on the road. Mews hasn’t played since he returned form the U-17s. Mayich is out sick. It jsut seemed like a lifeless game for the most part. They managed to get shots in the 3rd but not much of any danger with little gusto on the rebounds.

 

[beastintheeast]

Peterborough has to do it this year as they have always been saying and promising next year.

North Bay, I am not that sure of. They, like the 67's have not really been known for the big trades.

Ottawa needs to go after either Pinelli in Kitchener or Morrison in Hamilton. Either one would be a massive addition.

A solid defenceman that can play a steadying influence would be nice. In order to win in the playoffs, you need 3 lines that can score and 4 defencemen that are not afraid to use their body and shut down the other team.

The question that Boyd has to look at is based on where they think these D corps are and where will they be at the end of the season.

Also, what is the price that they would have to pay, and is the ROI worth it?

We have a lot of young talent that is starting to come together. reading and listening I am getting very impressed with Barlas he has proven that he does have the parts and was a worthy draft pick.