What is Rohner's injury? Is it the puck in the face? He'll be ready for the season opener...maybe he'll be wearing a cage but should be good to go.
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Who's trading a 19 yr old top end center? those are the guys you win with - elite 19 year old's are the secret ingredient to championships. Generally speaking, when your roster is made up of 19 yr olds you are a top team in the league. Some config like 3 OA's 7/8 19 yr olds.
Out of curiosity, have you seen Barlas play yet this season? Keep in mind that he had a serious illness to start last season. It would be shocking to see him scratched to start the season.
Regular season roster up on website. No Laforme so I guess he's been released. So as of now 14 forwards, 10 D and 2 masked men.
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This team does not revolve around Chris Barlas.
The logic behind him sitting out Friday is:
1> Cameron stated that the pre-season wasn’t long enough to get a full sense for making player decisions. This leads me to believe he wants to keep as many bodies as possible to continue evaluating.
2> I believe they can roster 23 bodies.
3> If Cameron keeps as many bodies as possible, it means he likely keeps 8 D-Men and 13 forwards. If he does, then it is likely he drops the 16 year old rookie forward, Kelly to Tier II To get down to 13 forwards
4> If Cameron is trying to evaluate the bottom of his forward roster, he needs to play the guys he’s still evaluating. I believe the evaluation is between Foster, Barlas, Quick and Dever. Add Sirman into the mix as the 8th D-Man swinging into forward. That means it is likely he sits two of those guys on Friday and two on Sunday.
5> I think Foster has earned his spot so I am pulling him from the group of five and make it a group of four.
6> Friday is a road game. It makes more sense to play the rookies (Quick and Dever) on the road and then dress Barlas and Sirman at the home opener. I think playing the 2nd year players for the home opener is a better option.
Cameron is likely going to have to decide on one forward to drop to Tier II. But, I think for the first four weeks, he can take some time and rotate some guys in and out of the lineup.
For the defence, we really do need to make a trade but barring a trade, Cameron needs to drop two players to Tier II. The two most likely candidates are Ewles and Marrelli. I don’t like that they even have to do that but it is what it is. They likely won’t drop Mews to Tier II. If they try to move any of the other D-Men to Tier II, they need to waive them and we would lose them for sure. There is no chance that any of the other 7 D-Men pass through waivers.
So, to me, the roster decisions should be rather easy. You need to protect assets so you demote the players you don’t need to waive. The defence seems to be a no brainer barring a trade. The forwards are a little more difficult but to start the season it makes more sense to demote the 16 year old, Kelly. Give the 17 year olds a chance and if they don’t perform, you can demote them to Tier II and bring up Kelly if he is performing well.
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I tried to watch some games online but it was somewhat difficult. Barlas was still dumped deep on the depth chart at centre and wasn’t taking many faceoffs. It seems pretty obvious that Gardiner‘s role grew throughout the pre-season. It seems as though his level of responsibility has grown beyond that of Barlas. Even Foster seemed to get more ice than Barlas as the pre-season went deeper.
I still think he is better suited as a winger. The few times he lined up as a winger last year he was really effective. He isn’t big but he has a bit of a nastiness to his game and you see it more on the wing where he tends to patrol the boards and corners. I just find him slow to react at centre. It is like he doens’t really see the ice or anticipate well. I think he can utilize his skill better from the wing where he doesnot need to anticipate th play as much to be effective. He can use natural skill.
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Not all teams are in a compete now cycle. There will be teams in the bottom half of the league that may very well have elite players available for trade. The difference is that they usually don’t trade thos players until closer to the deadline.
I think the types of players that come available now are the expendable OA’s and depth 17 year olds that don’t have a spot on the roster.
I agree with you that he looks much better on the wing. He’d fit well with the big Gardiner and Foster.
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I’m not sure what will end up happening over the course of the next 4-6 weeks. I think Cameron will do a lot of tinkering with his fourth line and I think the 4th line will get a reasonable amount of ice time at the start of the season so he can see what he has.
The reality is Quick and Dever have both played relatively well in the pre-season but that is just pre-season. The veterans aren‘t typically playing a full speed and that opens the door for a lot of younger more inexperienced players to look better than they are.
The real test starts on Friday and by the sounds of it, Cameron is going to be as patient as possible trying to find out what he really has.
Is Rohner ready for opening night?
And are all NHL players back with the team?
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The problem for Barlas is that no matter where he plays, there is a logjam.
I like the idea of playing him at wing. Anything that gives him ice time is a good thing. There will still be chances for him to take faceoffs, and he may grow and learn to play center. Remember, Rohrer did not start as a center.
As to the lineup and players going up and down, I think you are right that at least for a couple of weeks, there are going to be players that are going to be sent to a local team and will practice with both the 67s and the junior team. Then once the season starts and if Boyd can find a dance partner for a trade, they can come up.
I think Gerrior could also be on the block if they are looking at moving Barlas to the wing.
This is sort of the problem you have when you have two first-round picks, and you make them D
A thought might be to rest Rohrer for the first game and see if one of the others can play. At this stage (early October) you can take some chances to see what players can do and showcase them.
I like the idea of playing him at wing. Anything that gives him ice time is a good thing. There will still be chances for him to take faceoffs, and he may grow and learn to play center. Remember, Rohrer did not start as a center.
As to the lineup and players going up and down, I think you are right that at least for a couple of weeks, there are going to be players that are going to be sent to a local team and will practice with both the 67s and the junior team. Then once the season starts and if Boyd can find a dance partner for a trade, they can come up.
I think Gerrior could also be on the block if they are looking at moving Barlas to the wing.
This is sort of the problem you have when you have two first-round picks, and you make them D
A thought might be to rest Rohrer for the first game and see if one of the others can play. At this stage (early October) you can take some chances to see what players can do and showcase them.
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That’s my sense as well but we have to remember that it is unlikely that all the rookies prove capable. There is more of a chance that a couple show they are incapable and get sent down and they stay down….forever.
i like what I’ve seen from Ewles so if he gets sent down, I still think we can use him in some capacity later in the season or next season. Clearly if Marrelli gets sent down, he will be back up at some point 100%. I am reasonably certain about Kelly as well.
The guys we need to really get a sense of are Foster, Barlas, Dever, and Quick. To a lessor extent, Gardiner. I think he has shown capable but like I said previously, it was mostly just pre-season. He’s going to have to follow that up early in the regular season.
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We need to keep in mind that the rookies have 9 games and then can be sent down on “B” cards so they don’t count towards our 30 total cards.
There are some caveats to the games totals to kick the “A” card status into place but barring significant injuries, I don’t see this happening.
But, as far as I know, they can only carry 23 total bodies on the active roster.
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I would like to see Ewle get a chunk of ice time this weekend. No, I don't think he will make the team but I would like him to have a shot at showing other teams what he has and at least finding out if he has what it takes.
I think trading with him a young forward and some picks might get us something early.
If not then I think they need to put him and Marrelli on different CCHL teams that are close to the arena and have them do double practices.
The bad news is that this sort of screws up the CCHL teams so I think that if he goes down it will be for the year minus call-up for injury.
Surely there are teams out there that will take a shot on some of the young players.
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Why would you want to get rid of an '05 kid when you will be losing 3 or 4 defensemen next year. If things remain the same right now the defense next year would be:
1(?) x '03
3 x '04 Sirman, Smyth, Mayich
1 x '05 Ewles
2 x '06 Mews, Marelli
? x '07
Which is pretty nicely spread out.
It would be better trading an older guy for any help needed.
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If the focus was solely next season then the management would make decisions based solely on next season. However, decisions made for next season affect the roster performance this season. I assume trading a player like Sawyer would have an immediate negative impact. He’d be replaced by a younger player with less experience.
Personally, I’m ok with whatever they decide to trade if/when the time comes. But, I think I side with Beast with respect to the decision on what they do could be significantly impacted by what sort of return they can get for the players they deem potentially expendable.
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It looks like we can roster 25 players. We are currently sitting at 26. One player will need to be sent to Tier II.
Gotta assume it’s Sawyer. He seems to be the one that we predicted would go.
Also, provided the deal is just picks coming back, it would mean they fit under the 25 man active roster limit. That means it woudl look like they won’t send anyone down to Tier II until they either are confident in a player not performing to the required level or they reached their 9 game limit prior to being assigned an “A” card.
Gotta assume it’s Sawyer. He seems to be the one that we predicted would go.
Also, provided the deal is just picks coming back, it would mean they fit under the 25 man active roster limit. That means it woudl look like they won’t send anyone down to Tier II until they either are confident in a player not performing to the required level or they reached their 9 game limit prior to being assigned an “A” card.
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JF Plante also suggesting Boucher will get some time with Tkachuk and Norris against the Leafs on Friday. That means Boucher would not join the 67’s for the opener.
I can’t see both going. One going makes sense. The second one is likely returning as an OA next year. I always thought it would be Sawyer because he was a left side D-Man. Gill-Shane being the righty would be more valuable positionally. They would lose both Costantini and Matier from the right side next year.
I can’t see both going. One going makes sense. The second one is likely returning as an OA next year. I always thought it would be Sawyer because he was a left side D-Man. Gill-Shane being the righty would be more valuable positionally. They would lose both Costantini and Matier from the right side next year.
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