Ottawa 67's 2022-23 Season Thread (Part 3)

[beastintheeast]

With the new teams post deadline who do you think will up their game the most.

 

[dirty12]

With the new teams post deadline who do you think will up their game the most.

Boucher I think, as long as the shoulder holds up. A breakout by Boucher might be key for the ‘67s

 

[OMG67]

You can look at the steelheads for a fair comparison. At the very least, their roster going into the season with Del Mastro, Beck, and Del Bel Belluz leading the way was better than the ‘67s will have next season.
They ‘should’ have been solidly #4 maybe 3 at the deadline had a couple of players taken the expected step forward and the import goalie been a bit better. It was not because of the coach.
But there was nearly zero chance they could have come out of this past trade deadline a real contender because there were no disposable assets. The Steelheads could not have pulled off what the Petes or Sting did. Misa and 18 yr old import G and OA Callahan to Saginaw for Mintyukov + OA Lennox was the only way. That was not going to happen knowing the Steelheads offerings were not as good as expected, Saginaw has their G for next season, and Minty worth 9(2-4) picks.
Next season will be another with a buying frenzy because the league will have two representatives at the memorial cup.

Although I don’t necessarily agree the 67s will be unarmed in a similar way as Mississauga, I agree with the logic and reasoning.

The 67s could pull something similar to the Petes next year “assuming” they don’t need the top 6 pick or Mews to do it. I think what happened at the deadline this year with JVV and Martone was a one off. I think we will go back to seeing Pharand type deals again as the norm. If that is true, the 67s could trade their ‘07 1st as well as assets from the ‘06 draft. I just don’t think it is advisable…. even if they are stronger than expected.

Good point about next year. Although OMG is predicting a buyers market next year I disagree because of the M cup. Might not be like this years frenzy but it will still be a sellers market imo. So again to my point even though we should have a good team next year strategic selling is the logical course.

The reason it will be a buyers market is because too many teams this year went balls to the wall all-in. They will be going balls to the walls all-in on the opposite direction next year. That sets up a buyers market.

The caveat to all of that is whether they have enough returning players to offer the market!

 

[PuckStop75]

Although I don’t necessarily agree the 67s will be unarmed in a similar way as Mississauga, I agree with the logic and reasoning.

The 67s could pull something similar to the Petes next year “assuming” they don’t need the top 6 pick or Mews to do it. I think what happened at the deadline this year with JVV and Martone was a one off. I think we will go back to seeing Pharand type deals again as the norm. If that is true, the 67s could trade their ‘07 1st as well as assets from the ‘06 draft. I just don’t think it is advisable…. even if they are stronger than expected.


The reason it will be a buyers market is because too many teams this year went balls to the wall all-in. They will be going balls to the walls all-in on the opposite direction next year. That sets up a buyers market.

The caveat to all of that is whether they have enough returning players to offer the market!

In using draft picks only for the trades, Ottawa protected the asset pool for this season. Its really only a deferred measure as ultimately they will need to trade players later to replenish the draft cupboard in 25/26. If they don't have enough players to offer to market then they will need to operate with a modified supply of draft picks feeding the system. Either way I don't see Ottawa going "balls to wall-in" to the extreme that the Petes, Spitfires or Sting did anytime soon.

The Sting actually have more left than appears as they will get the 6 conditional picks from the Moldenhauer deal with Ottawa back at some juncture.

I'm not sure that earlier 1st round players was a one off, if there is anything we know about sport it is GM's will adapt and become almost cannibalistic given the latitude to do so. If the way the Q & WHL operate with their transactions is any indication, it is here to stay. I would say that Ottawa has and continues to operate very conservatively compared to most organizations.

 

[sirius67fan]

In using draft picks only for the trades, Ottawa protected the asset pool for this season. Its really only a deferred measure as ultimately they will need to trade players later to replenish the draft cupboard in 25/26. If they don't have enough players to offer to market then they will need to operate with a modified supply of draft picks feeding the system. Either way I don't see Ottawa going "balls to wall-in" to the extreme that the Petes, Spitfires or Sting did anytime soon.

The Sting actually have more left than appears as they will get the 6 conditional picks from the Moldenhauer deal with Ottawa back at some juncture.

I'm not sure that earlier 1st round players was a one off, if there is anything we know about sport it is GM's will adapt and become almost cannibalistic given the latitude to do so. If the way the Q & WHL operate with their transactions is any indication, it is here to stay. I would say that Ottawa has and continues to operate very conservatively compared to most organizations.

I would agree Ottawa since Boyd/Tourigny came in have had a very calculated and conservative approach that may yield a third president's cup in four seasons...impressive for junior hockey. That approach though only works with good drafting and our drafting has been stellar for four years in a row despite a first rounder not showing up. Without good drafting their model does not work imo.

 

[AGranderson]

Pavel Mintyukov is expected to play tonight, Jack Matier will return. Tyler Boucher will remain out

67’s win
7-2

 

[sirius67fan]

Pavel Mintyukov is expected to play tonight, Jack Matier will return. Tyler Boucher will remain out

67’s win
7-2

Any update on Boucher going forward? He's my one worry right now, we need him for the playoffs!

 

[OMG67]

In using draft picks only for the trades, Ottawa protected the asset pool for this season. Its really only a deferred measure as ultimately they will need to trade players later to replenish the draft cupboard in 25/26. If they don't have enough players to offer to market then they will need to operate with a modified supply of draft picks feeding the system. Either way I don't see Ottawa going "balls to wall-in" to the extreme that the Petes, Spitfires or Sting did anytime soon.

The Sting actually have more left than appears as they will get the 6 conditional picks from the Moldenhauer deal with Ottawa back at some juncture.

I'm not sure that earlier 1st round players was a one off, if there is anything we know about sport it is GM's will adapt and become almost cannibalistic given the latitude to do so. If the way the Q & WHL operate with their transactions is any indication, it is here to stay. I would say that Ottawa has and continues to operate very conservatively compared to most organizations.

Two things:

1- Using picks, as you say, is a derferral. I agree. The difference is we are deferring an apple to an apple. We trade a half season of Rohrer next year for a half season of Morrison this year. Apple for apple. When you take a player like Mews this year for a half season of DelMastro, you trade 3.5 season of Mews for 0.5 seasons of DelMastro. Not quite apple for apple.
2- it isn’t often that teams just slightly making the playoffs are true big spenders the following season. There was a perfect storm in so far as the two #8 seeds with the 5th and 6th picks in the draft were serious buyers this year. Couple that with both teams having a lack of picks and you see why both traded their high ‘06s as well as their ‘05 1st rounders. If they had picks, they may have been able to at least avoided trading their ‘05 1sts at a minimum.

I’d like the 67s to avoid the pitfalls of not having picks by being disciplined in their approach for when to buy and sell.

Any update on Boucher going forward? He's my one worry right now, we need him for the playoffs!

I don’t have a confirmation but my understanding is tonight was a possibility. If that is true then we should expect to see him by next weekend in Barrie/Kitchener/OwenSound at the latest.

 

[mianjo]

The new guy only makes it as the 7th defenceman

 

[OMG67]

The new guy only makes it as the 7th defenceman

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Looks like one too many on the sheet!

 

[mianjo]

Vinny Rohrer taken off on a stretcher​

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67`s lead 1-0​

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#24 Vinzenz Rohrer (12) scores. Assists: #6 Thomas Sirman​

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2-0​

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#22 Matthew Mayich (2) scores. Assists: #16 Logan Morrison​

 

[sirius67fan]

 

[Section5Petes]

Prayers to Vinzenz Rohrer

 

[mianjo]

Rohrer has been taken by Ambulance, he is awake and talking, they are just taking him to hospital for further checkups

67`s lead 2-0 after 1

 

[OMG67]

Rohrer is a super tough kid. I have full faith he will rebound as quick as possible.

 

[StingUpdates]

for Rohrer! That was a scary, scary fall.

 

[mianjo]

67`s lead 4-1 after 2


2ND 3:51 #17 Brady Stonehouse (21) scores. Assists: #18 Jack Dever, #10 Cameron Tolnai

2ND 10:51 #27 Jack Matier (9) scores.

The Kingston guy hitting the post was scary really surprised he got back up

 

[leafs4life94]

67`s lead 4-1 after 2


2ND 3:51 #17 Brady Stonehouse (21) scores. Assists: #18 Jack Dever, #10 Cameron Tolnai

2ND 10:51 #27 Jack Matier (9) scores.

The Kingston guy hitting the post was scary really surprised he got back up

Not able to watch - who hit the post?

 

[beastintheeast]

I hve a feeling tht we are going to see a lot of the layers missing games for "injuries" from now to the end of the season.

Let's face this team had a lot of games where people got more ice time than usual. If you can slip in a Dever or Kelly and give a player like Tolnai or the D some rest before the playoffs it is a good thing.

 

[beastintheeast]

The next 4 weeks will tell us how we are with 2 hard long weekends on the road

 

[mianjo]

67`s win 8-1


4:31#17 Brady Stonehouse (22) scores. Assists: #20 Luca Pinelli, #4 Pavel Mintyukov

11:41 #20 Luca Pinelli (17) scores. Assists: #27 Jack Matier, #10 Cameron Tolnai

13:07 #16 Logan Morrison (21) scores. Assists: #19 Jack Beck

16:13 #29 Cooper Foster (14) scores. Assists: #16 Logan Morrison

 

[AGranderson]

Pavel Mintyukov is expected to play tonight, Jack Matier will return. Tyler Boucher will remain out

67’s win
7-2

…. Not to bad just missed the score

 

[mianjo]

Ottawa 67’s

@Ottawa67sHockey
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1h

Vinzenz Rohrer is awake and talking, and has movement in all of his extremities. He has been taken to hospital for further evaluation.

…. Not to bad just missed the score

8-1

STARS OF THE GAME​

FIRST
Brady Stonehouse
#17
Ottawa

SECOND
Logan Morrison
#16
Ottawa

THIRD
Matthew Mayich
#22
Ottawa

Morrison now 1st in OHL scoring

 

[yessir29292]

Wright seems to think that he deserves to be in the NHL and that the rules just as they were so he could become an OHL player should be changed for him.

how do you know this?

 

[OMG67]

Tonight’s game was a bit sloppy at times. But, all in all a good performance.

I’d like to see Mintyukov after he has had a chance to get a few practices and games in. You can see he has the skills, just needs to get a stronger sense of where guys will be on the ice so he can anticipate better. Will be a treat.