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Was it a shot on net? Did the goalie need to make a save? If his head wasn’t there, would the puck have entered the net?
I assume all of those answers are yes. If so, I assume it was a shot.
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Was it a shot on net? Did the goalie need to make a save? If his head wasn’t there, would the puck have entered the net?
I assume all of those answers are yes. If so, I assume it was a shot.
Interesting, first time I’ve seen that brought up. I think it’s interference on the goaltender if he plays the stick interfering with the skater’s follow through, so maybe it should be interference on the skater if contacting the goalie while shooting.
Is it high sticking, …carelessness if a skater is hit by a stick used to make a play on the puck when the skater is on his knees?
I’d say it’s 2 min. for shooter if the stick contacts the goalie above the cross bar.
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Early morning thought. Somewhat sounds like Saginaw is likely to host the Memorial Cup next year as we know the Ontario hockey league really wants to bring it on that side of the border. So if anyone has checked the standings Kingston is now 2 points shy of a top 6 team in the league what are the chances they keep Wright & maybe with all the picks they have decide to scoop up a Del Mastro or Morrison ??
I’d say the chances of Kingston trading themselves out of contention for hosting the memorial cup are slim; and I believe the eastern conference is over due to host, so Saginaw is the #3 preference for the league imo.
From what I can see this is what we currently own for the 2023 draft. pick wise
2023 67’s draft picks
There own 1st
Niagara 2nd
Guelph 2nd
There own 4th
Kingston’s 4th
Windsor’s 4th
There own 5th
Sarnia 5th
There own 7th,8th,9th,10th,11th,12th,13th,14th,15th
Basically we don’t own our second round pick, our own third round pick & our own sixth round pick.
But we have added
2 second round picks
2 fourth round picks
1 5th round pick
Actually thought we had more until I looked into it
2023 67’s draft picks
There own 1st
Niagara 2nd
Guelph 2nd
There own 4th
Kingston’s 4th
Windsor’s 4th
There own 5th
Sarnia 5th
There own 7th,8th,9th,10th,11th,12th,13th,14th,15th
Basically we don’t own our second round pick, our own third round pick & our own sixth round pick.
But we have added
2 second round picks
2 fourth round picks
1 5th round pick
Actually thought we had more until I looked into it
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1> They traded Arcuri. Best case scenario is they then use those same picks to acquire Morrison, an OA?
2> They are slated to bid for the Memorial Cup. If they do that, they basically recind their bid because they won’t have the team in place. They’d be in full rebuild mode of they made a run this year.
3> I don’t think the franchise is strong enough, nor is their management smart enough to pull it off even if it did make sense.
4> Hypothetically speaking, let’s say they did do it, where would they be in the power rankings for the Eastern Conference? Fourth? Maybe Third if Barrie doesn’t do anything other than get Clarke back?
5> Ottawa is still going to do what Ottawa is going to do regardless of Kingston. Same with Peterborough. Same with Barrie. I don’t see Kingston coming out on the smart side of that decision.
HOWEVER, I do think there are teams right now that have made moves with zero to less than zero chance of it turning out well for them including the Petes who are poised to make more moves. So, if Kingston were to do that, they would probably not be alone in making stupid moves this season. Only one team can win and we’ve already seen Kitchener, Sarnia, North Bay and Peterborough make big moves. In light of all that, maybe it wouldn’t be all that surprising.
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You are missing Ottawa 3rd, Kingston 3rd and Niagara 4th.
Kingston 3rd came in the TJ trade a couple months ago.
Niagara 4th came in the Gaidamak deal in the summer.
They don’t have the Windsor 4th.
The Sarnia 5th is conditional on Moldenhauer reporting so they don’t have that one either.
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Their pick strength is in the aggregate through 2026. Seven 2nds and 9 or 10 3rds through 2026.
Its between Kingston and Saginaw for the Mem cup. Aint going to Niagara with what he s been up to. Kingston has advantages of the hotels close by the rink. Dont think Saginaw has that, however Saginaw does have the money, its just about Canadian sponsors in the US.
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2023 67’s draft picks
Our own 1st
Niagara’s 2nd
Guelph 2nd
Our own 3rd
Kingston’s 3rd
Our own 4th
Niagara’s 4th
Kingston’s 4th
Our own 5th
Our own 7th,8th,9th,10th,11th,12th,13th,14th,15th
we don’t own our own second round pick & our own sixth round pick.
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Go to Post #366
Reformatted OHL Draft Pick Database
Generals Updates has the updated Draft Picks link in that post. There is one minor update required for Ottawa and that is the conditional 3rd and 5th we are supposed to get for Cranley but that isn’t 100% confirmed so its not in the list. I think they are 2025’s for that one. Sirius can confirm that one.
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No doubt the junior teams have been informed, but without insider knowledge we cannot definitively say whether or not they are coming back. Usually they do get sent back but not always (Barrett Hayton as an example of the latter). Talking like it is a done deal is not helpful.
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Agreed. The teams have been informed one way or the other. We just don’t know what that info is. However, we can make reasonable assumptions for the sake of discussion.
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Wright will not play for Kingston. Even if they do not trade him and he is sent back, he is not going to be a positive on the team.
Gilmour called Gubrandsen's bluff and it was a nightmare.
Kingston needs something for the fans next year.
I will be honest and say that I am not sure they will be good enough next year but then again no one saw us this good this year.
Kingston needs to make trades that help them next year Morrison would not.
The Fronts need a goalie that can play in the league.
Last year ws a disaster this year is ok but I am not sure you can keep hoping that a Euro is going to solve your problems.
This ottawa team if they decided to go for it next year would be competitive and be able to put together a great bid if they had a new arena.
That being said we need to do it this year we have the picks and we have the extra bodies
Gilmour called Gubrandsen's bluff and it was a nightmare.
Kingston needs something for the fans next year.
I will be honest and say that I am not sure they will be good enough next year but then again no one saw us this good this year.
Kingston needs to make trades that help them next year Morrison would not.
The Fronts need a goalie that can play in the league.
Last year ws a disaster this year is ok but I am not sure you can keep hoping that a Euro is going to solve your problems.
This ottawa team if they decided to go for it next year would be competitive and be able to put together a great bid if they had a new arena.
That being said we need to do it this year we have the picks and we have the extra bodies
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Ottawa will wait until they have the new arena before they decide to do anything resembling a bid for anything, whether it is a Memorial Cup or WJHC. Once they have th new rink, I could see a WJHC bid again shared with the new SENS Rink.
Imagine a WJHC bid with the new downtown rink and the new rink at Lansdowne? That would be slick. It is gonna happen. Just a matter of when. I think both rinks will likely be built within about the same time Period. Probably Lansdowne around 2025 and the downtown NHL rink around 2027/28 if all goes well.
You're a Mews away from that trade value matching up lmao. Or 4-5 2nds
Still think ottawa doesnt give up a roster player this deadline?
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I think you need to scroll back a few pages and read.
Some have suggested that Boyd won’t move players. Most of us have been realistic and suggested all he can do by moving picks is add an OA and a supplementary skater.
With respect to what you just quoted, we’d discussed players like Foster and Gardiner etc that are solid 17 year olds being more attractive than a guy like Marrelli to Kingston because they are a year older and more likely to contribute right away during their Memorial Cup run. But, we have a stellar 18 year old goalie that may provide a more impactful role on Kingston next year than a 30 goal forward, especially if Kingston doesn’t feel they have a starter. Zhigalov is an ‘03 Import and unlikely to return leaving them with a vacancy in net. It makes some sense to discuss MacKenzie’s value in relation to the other younger players trade value.
Ottawa has a multitude of trade options to work out deals that do not include Mews. It speaks to your ignorance that you don’t know this. Both Foster and Gardiner are on pace for 30 goals and that is on a roster with some seriously strong 18 and 19 year olds. They have managed to carve out their own value on a team full of strong players and they’ve done it playing less time on deeper lines. That has tremendous value. Ignoring that and suggesting otherwise shows your ignorance. Ottawa didn’t get to an .800 win% with so many young players by luck.
I agree that Wright in Kingston this year will probably not fly.
Kingston doesn’t need goaltending. Vaccari has played exceptional this year and is the goalie of the future for the Fronts.
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If I had to guess I would say DelMaestro and Morrison. Although, it seems like Hamilton has been pretty unrealistic with Morrison. They will need to come to their senses soon though.
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Check that. Let’s say DelMaestro And Harrison. IF the rumblings are true about Morrison then it is unlikely he’d be a name circulating with enough gusto to be included as one of th player sin that tweet.
As much as I don’t agree with Brock Otten’s trade deadline article, I do think that if they can’t get Morrison, Avery Hayes is probably a viable alternative provided they snag a good centre like Harrison.
If they added DelMaestro, Harrison and Hayes, that would be spectacular.
I still worry a lot about Barrie. Clarke returned plus Sale reporting would be a stellar start for them. Then adding 2-3 players on top of that would be sick.
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67's lead 3-1 in 3rd
GOAL
1ST 19:51 #11 Henry Mews (7) scores. Assists: #8 Frankie Marrelli, #10 Cameron Tolnai
GOAL
2ND 9:32 #9 Chris Barlas (7) scores. Assists: #22 Matthew Mayich, #25 Brad Gardiner
GOAL
2ND 10:38 #11 Henry Mews (8) scores. Assists: #10 Cameron Tolnai POWER PLAY
GOAL
1ST 19:51 #11 Henry Mews (7) scores. Assists: #8 Frankie Marrelli, #10 Cameron Tolnai
GOAL
2ND 9:32 #9 Chris Barlas (7) scores. Assists: #22 Matthew Mayich, #25 Brad Gardiner
GOAL
2ND 10:38 #11 Henry Mews (8) scores. Assists: #10 Cameron Tolnai POWER PLAY
67's WIN5-1
3RD 18:43 #23 Will Gerrior (3) scores. Assists: #29 Cooper Foster, #12 Anthony Costantini POWER PLAY
3RD 19:31 #18 Jack Dever (1) scores. Assists: #9 Chris Barlas POWER PLAY
FIRST
Henry Mews
#11
Ottawa
SECOND
Max Donoso
#35
Ottawa
THIRD
Will Gerrior
#23
Ottawa
3RD 18:43 #23 Will Gerrior (3) scores. Assists: #29 Cooper Foster, #12 Anthony Costantini POWER PLAY
3RD 19:31 #18 Jack Dever (1) scores. Assists: #9 Chris Barlas POWER PLAY
STARS OF THE GAME
FIRST
Henry Mews
#11
Ottawa
SECOND
Max Donoso
#35
Ottawa
THIRD
Will Gerrior
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Wow what an effort with 16 skaters. Essentially played 8 forwards with Laforme/Quick getting maybe 5 shifts. Despite that they kept coming...impressive. Not sure why Kelly wasn't dressed? Gerrior was relentless all game glad he got a goal. He caught a guy on a half break away in the first starting like 20 feet behind...and I wasn't worried told my buddy Gerrior will get him...lol. Mews is stellar to get pucks on net and using his or the opposition players as a screen. Man he's gonna be something.
Don't worry about Barrie OMG67 (Assuming they don't sell the assets which I suspect they don't for revenue reasons throughout the near future years). They've been hot lately, but aside from the last few games they've been outplayed by everyone. Look at their GF/GA. Yes, Clarke + Sale may put them above that average threshold but without atleast 2-3 impact adds, Ottawa will take the cake.
I too thought Brock's outlook on Harrison being worth an 06' first rounder seems a bit much. The value of the draft pick has decreased so much over the years, if I were a GM I would draft my team, not trade for players off other teams.
A 2nd + 3rd used to net you a solid 80-90 PT scorer in 2010. What happened?
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