Ottawa 67's 2022-23 Season Thread (Part 2)

[BarberPole9]

Barberpole…

I haven’t really taken the time to review other teams next year so it is tough for me to assess exactly where the 67’s stand going into next season but let’s take a look a t a projected lineup going into next season. There are a couple assumptions though.

1> Beck returning is still not more than 50/50 but for arguments sake, I will include him as an OA. I think when he returns this season, if he plays without injury and the 67’s make a deep run, he wil lbe an integral part of that run and I think that window will be enough for Calgary to sign him and pull him into the AHL. But, that is a best case scenario.
2> We are not going to trade any existing roster players through the deadline.

Pinelli - Rohrer - Beck (OA)
Stonehouse - Gardiner - Gerrior
Barlas - IMPORT - Foster
Quick - Dever - Kelly (I doubt all three end up on roster Next season which is why I think one of Dever or Quick can be traded at the deadline)

Mayich - Mews
Sirman - Ewles
Smyth -
Marrelli

Donoso (OA)
MacKenzie

NOTE: If we trade for Morrison or similar type player ONLY, then we likely have one of the two high 2nds next year plus our first pick.

Ryder Dagenais (2022 7th) is currently playing at Shattuck st Mary’s. He’d be a great addition if they can get him signed but I highly doubt that will happen. The 67’s have a few other NCAA projected players they could potentially entice but it is unlikely. So, at this point, I don’t see any additional 2022 draft players joining the fold for next season.

So, looking at the depth chart it isn’t jsut about number of players returning, it is also the impact of the players returning. To me, the key component in all fo that is Jack Beck. If Beck returns, it gives Ottawa a bonafide top flight first line. I think Gardiner has shown enough this year that he should continue to take steps forward and be a solid 2nd centre. The depth on the wings is good enough to cover his flanks for sure. The questions start to creep in at 3rd line. Can we snag an Import centre? Likely it will be a 17 year old so what sort of impact can be expected?

We are still short at centre next season. But, we will have an open OA spot.

The defense should be fine for a competitive team. Is it good enough for a championship calibre team? Doubtful.

I don’t think we are poised for the same sort of development jump next season that we saw this season. I don’t think the pieces are there to realize that unless a player like Dagenais signs.

Personally, I think next year is a reset year. We will be good enough to compete but none of our 19 year olds would be worthy of a 2023 1st as compensation for trade so I doubt they would sell. I doubt they would buy. That probably puts them in that 4th place spot give or take. It is tough to say without having a stronger handle on the other teams.

There are two big potentials from the 2021 draft. Twins Connor and Ryan Macpherson, currently committed to UNH. James Boyd has mentioned them previously when talking about the successful draft. If the team had an inkling that they might sign next year, maybe one or two of the 17 year olds from the current roster could help reel in some big fish at the deadline.

Connor MacPherson - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Connor MacPherson, 2005-03-02 Windsor, ON, CAN Canada. Most recently in the NCAA with Univ. of New Hampshire. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

 

[OMG67]

There are two big potentials from the 2021 draft. Twins Connor and Ryan Macpherson, currently committed to UNH. James Boyd has mentioned them previously when talking about the successful draft. If the team had an inkling that they might sign next year, maybe one or two of the 17 year olds from the current roster could help reel in some big fish at the deadline.

Connor MacPherson - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Connor MacPherson, 2005-03-02 Windsor, ON, CAN Canada. Most recently in the NCAA with Univ. of New Hampshire. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

Or the Macpherson’s get traded.

 

[AGranderson]

The weekend ahead is going to be a test. take a look at our potential line rushes

Stonehouse- Tolnai- Gerrior
Pinelli-Gardiner- Foster
Barlas-Laforme-Kelly
Quick-

Mayich- Costantini
Sirman- Mews
Ewles - Marrelli

Donso
……….?

Matier (WJ)
Rohrer (WJ)
Boucher (WJ)
Smyth (Inj)
Beck (Inj)
Dever (Inj)
Mackenzie (1of3)

This could be a very bad weekend against some very strong teams.

 

[BarberPole9]

The weekend ahead is going to be a test. take a look at our potential line rushes

Stonehouse- Tolnai- Gerrior
Pinelli-Gardiner- Foster
Barlas-Laforme-Kelly
Quick-

Mayich- Costantini
Sirman- Mews
Ewles - Marrelli

Donso
……….?

Matier (WJ)
Rohrer (WJ)
Boucher (WJ)
Smyth (Inj)
Beck (Inj)
Dever (Inj)
Mackenzie (1of3)

This could be a very bad weekend against some very strong teams.

Hopefully Beck and Dever can recover quickly as they would boost this weekend’s lineup tremendously. Dever was really cooking before that cheap shot.

 

[OMG67]

The weekend ahead is going to be a test. take a look at our potential line rushes

Stonehouse- Tolnai- Gerrior
Pinelli-Gardiner- Foster
Barlas-Laforme-Kelly
Quick-

Mayich- Costantini
Sirman- Mews
Ewles - Marrelli

Donso
……….?

Matier (WJ)
Rohrer (WJ)
Boucher (WJ)
Smyth (Inj)
Beck (Inj)
Dever (Inj)
Mackenzie (1of3)

This could be a very bad weekend against some very strong teams.

Or a very good weekend with a very weak team!

Think positive!

As mentioned, Rohrer likely doesn’t miss any games this weekend. Last year he played through the 11th. Boucher may miss games but I think he will play Thursday and Friday and then maybe miss Sunday.

 

[Generalsupdates]

It only works when the budding war happens. It there are other options, teams move on before it gets there.

That is exactly what happened in 2019 with Guelph and Suzuki. Guelph got him for a heavy discount because OS held out for the big pay day and they got stuffed because teams walked away and decided to make other deals. So, at some point if no teams are willing to give XXX then they have to make a decision on what do to. All it takes is one of the bidding teams to give up and as an alternate deal and the bidding stops and the bids get lower because the market changed.


EDIT:
Since the market did change and I made the assertion Suzuki was traded for pennies on the dollar, I should outline the trade in case others dont’ remember…

Owen Sound received:
Zach Poirier (OA - cast off)
Barret Kirwin (19y/o former 6th rounder - decent point producer the following year)
Mark Woolley (17 y/o 3rd round pick)
2nd
3rd
4th
conditional 3rd

Guelph received:
Nick Suzuki
Sean Durzi (OA D-Man… currently with the LA Kings. NHL 2nd rounder by Toronto)
Zach Roberts (19 year old. Played int he playoffs but looks like a 4th liner)

So, for pretty much a ball of soap chips, the Guelph storm received not only Nick Suzuki but they also received Sean Durzi. Woolley and Kirwin would probably equate to Ewles and Gerrior.

So, it would be like trading Ewles and Gerrior and a few picks to Kingston for Wright and Roger.

Moral of the story? Don’t hold out for an unrealistic return too long or you can get burnt quick.

I could point to a million examples of a team saying "nah I'm not giving _____" and then another team steps in and pays that and takes the priced fish.


Moral of the story? Don't be cheap in a year where you have a chance to win because another team won't be and will pass you.



ps. Brett Harrison hat-trick tonight and is on pace for 51 goals in a full season, all while coming off a broken leg this preseason. Carry on

 

[OMG67]

I could point to a million examples of a team saying "nah I'm not giving _____" and then another team steps in and pays that and takes the priced fish.


Moral of the story? Don't be cheap in a year where you have a chance to win because another team won't be and will pass you.



ps. Brett Harrison hat-trick tonight and is on pace for 51 goals in a full season, all while coming off a broken leg this preseason. Carry on

I love Brett Harrison. Let’s be clear. But I don’t ‘06 1st love him. I doubt anyone else loves him like that either.

 

[Generalsupdates]

I love Brett Harrison. Let’s be clear. But I don’t ‘06 1st love him. I doubt anyone else loves him like that either.

It has nothing to do with Brett Harrison. I just used him an an example. I'm saying if other teams are willing to pay _____ then you need to be willing to pay _____.


Example:
NB steps up and says we'll give Procyzn+ picks for Arcuri, he's gone.

MISS steps up and says we'll give Karmiris+picks for Harrison, he's gone.

PBO steps up and says we'll give Van Volsen+picks for Wright/Clarke, he's gone.

You'd be left in the dust because you were stubborn and everyone else in the East just got way better.

Hamilton traded Connor McMichael in his rookie season because they knew they had a chance to win it all and they were right. That's the price of doing business sometimes.

Maybe you're right and no team will give a 1sts for Harrison/Arcuri. But maybe you're wrong and you get left standing at the table with your dick in your hand and just squandered a year where you had the best start in franchise history...

 

[Generalsupdates]

It has nothing to do with Brett Harrison. I just used him an an example. I'm saying if other teams are willing to pay _____ then you need to be willing to pay _____.


Example:
NB steps up and says we'll give Procyzn+ picks for Arcuri, he's gone.

MISS steps up and says we'll give Karmiris+picks for Harrison, he's gone.

PBO steps up and says we'll give Van Volsen+picks for Wright/Clarke, he's gone.

You'd be left in the dust because you were stubborn and everyone else in the East just got way better.

Hamilton traded Connor McMichael in his rookie season because they knew they had a chance to win it all and they were right. That's the price of doing business sometimes.

Maybe you're right and no team will give a 1sts for Harrison/Arcuri. But maybe you're wrong and you get left standing at the table with your dick in your hand and just squandered a year where you had the best start in franchise history...

And to be clear, I don’t know if Harrison or Arcuri go first a first. Coming into this season I thought no chance for either. I’m just saying you can’t be as “absolutely not, I’d never do it” as you’re saying. You have to adapt to the market if that’s the way it goes and other teams are willing to

 

[OMG67]

It has nothing to do with Brett Harrison. I just used him an an example. I'm saying if other teams are willing to pay _____ then you need to be willing to pay _____.


Example:
NB steps up and says we'll give Procyzn+ picks for Arcuri, he's gone.

MISS steps up and says we'll give Karmiris+picks for Harrison, he's gone.

PBO steps up and says we'll give Van Volsen+picks for Wright/Clarke, he's gone.

You'd be left in the dust because you were stubborn and everyone else in the East just got way better.

Hamilton traded Connor McMichael in his rookie season because they knew they had a chance to win it all and they were right. That's the price of doing business sometimes.

Maybe you're right and no team will give a 1sts for Harrison/Arcuri. But maybe you're wrong and you get left standing at the table with your dick in your hand and just squandered a year where you had the best start in franchise history...

I can’t answer this question because I would need to do the research but how many 1sts are traded annually at the deadline? One? Maybe two?

Usually firsts are reserved for special players. I don’t see special players this year.

I understand your logic of course but you also need to drop that logic into the marketplace. Then assess the likelihood.

In my opinion, Brett Harrison is the best of the current 19 year old forwards available. Will he score the most goals/points? No. But I think he is the best available. I like his game and I think it can fit well into a contending teams playoff run.

The problem is there are too many other players available or likely available that teams can shift to and not a lot of teams buying to that degree. Additionally, a lot of the teams buying highly value their ‘06.

If the market were sparse then maybe Harrison could fetch an ‘06. But the market has been set with Pastujov and Bloom who are similar enough players.

The Petes and 67s have an OA spot open and can shop cheaper. North Bay is done for the most part. Missy seems out. Barrie may be in but depends on Clarke. Saggy isn’t making a move like that. Windsor is not trading Cristaforo. Sarnia is not going to move Martone. London isn’t likely to make that type of move. If they do anything it will be to tinker. Flint already said no once. Owen Sound won’t do it with Cormier.

The Petes and Barrie seem the most likely but the Petes have the open OA spot. If Wright is returned, any team willing to move their ‘06 is likely to do it in that deal. And Barrie has so many picks that I can’t see them reaching into that zone for any of the aforementioned you highlighted.

I get what you are saying but teams that hold that line too long are more likely to end up like Owen Sound in 2019 in “this market.”

And to be clear, I don’t know if Harrison or Arcuri go first a first. Coming into this season I thought no chance for either. I’m just saying you can’t be as “absolutely not, I’d never do it” as you’re saying. You have to adapt to the market if that’s the way it goes and other teams are willing to

I get it but the only way is if a team like Ottawa were to have one name on their list and they go in with the attitude of “he’s ours no matter what.” Is there a team like that for that level of player that is currently out there?

 

[beastintheeast]

I can’t answer this question because I would need to do the research but how many 1sts are traded annually at the deadline? One? Maybe two?

Usually firsts are reserved for special players. I don’t see special players this year.

I understand your logic of course but you also need to drop that logic into the marketplace. Then assess the likelihood.

In my opinion, Brett Harrison is the best of the current 19 year old forwards available. Will he score the most goals/points? No. But I think he is the best available. I like his game and I think it can fit well into a contending teams playoff run.

The problem is there are too many other players available or likely available that teams can shift to and not a lot of teams buying to that degree. Additionally, a lot of the teams buying highly value their ‘06.

If the market were sparse then maybe Harrison could fetch an ‘06. But the market has been set with Pastujov and Bloom who are similar enough players.

The Petes and 67s have an OA spot open and can shop cheaper. North Bay is done for the most part. Missy seems out. Barrie may be in but depends on Clarke. Saggy isn’t making a move like that. Windsor is not trading Cristaforo. Sarnia is not going to move Martone. London isn’t likely to make that type of move. If they do anything it will be to tinker. Flint already said no once. Owen Sound won’t do it with Cormier.

The Petes and Barrie seem the most likely but the Petes have the open OA spot. If Wright is returned, any team willing to move their ‘06 is likely to do it in that deal. And Barrie has so many picks that I can’t see them reaching into that zone for any of the aforementioned you highlighted.

I get what you are saying but teams that hold that line too long are more likely to end up like Owen Sound in 2019 in “this market.”


I get it but the only way is if a team like Ottawa were to have one name on their list and they go in with the attitude of “he’s ours no matter what.” Is there a team like that for that level of player that is currently out there?

OMG I agree I do not see Arcuri bringing a 1st he is not that good. Also if Wright has a bad WJC he could end up back and that would give them a fairly potent line.

Kingston needs bodies and that is what they are going to be looking for.

Boyd I am sure has already dipped his toe into the trade waters and talked to teams. He knows who he can get and he knows what the relative cost is going to be.

I still think that we will trade for Morrison and Pinelli.


Morrison is going to cost us and Pinelli will also but not as much because I think the boys are going to give Kitchener a lump of coal and Boyd a Christmas present.

 

[OMG67]

OMG I agree I do not see Arcuri bringing a 1st he is not that good. Also if Wright has a bad WJC he could end up back and that would give them a fairly potent line.

Kingston needs bodies and that is what they are going to be looking for.

Boyd I am sure has already dipped his toe into the trade waters and talked to teams. He knows who he can get and he knows what the relative cost is going to be.

I still think that we will trade for Morrison and Pinelli.


Morrison is going to cost us and Pinelli will also but not as much because I think the boys are going to give Kitchener a lump of coal and Boyd a Christmas present.

If Wright comes back, he’s getting traded. There is zero chance of him wearing a Kingston uniform. Zero.

Kingston is bidding for the Memorial Cup hosting duties next year. They don’t need expiring contracts on this team. They need to push assets forward however they can.

This strategy is not in question. Even the NHL analysts are saying that if he is sent back, Kingston will trade him. No one of consequence has suggested he would play for Kingston.

 

[NoQuit67s]

Or a very good weekend with a very weak team!

Think positive!

As mentioned, Rohrer likely doesn’t miss any games this weekend. Last year he played through the 11th. Boucher may miss games but I think he will play Thursday and Friday and then maybe miss Sunday.

Also looks like Matier will play Thursday in Windsor, as per an interview on TSN1200, and head to WJC camp Friday.

 

[PuckStop75]

If Wright comes back, he’s getting traded. There is zero chance of him wearing a Kingston uniform. Zero.

Kingston is bidding for the Memorial Cup hosting duties next year. They don’t need expiring contracts on this team. They need to push assets forward however they can.

This strategy is not in question. Even the NHL analysts are saying that if he is sent back, Kingston will trade him. No one of consequence has suggested he would play for Kingston.

I'm really not sure how a team without a 2nd round pick for the next 4 years even contemplates hosting a Memorial Cup and contending if they didn't know that Wright was coming back to be used as trade collateral. The bid investment is significant enough that it makes zero sense for them to even attempt it otherwise.

 

[NordiquesForeva]

Vinz Rohrer is heading out on the 15th, so he should be available this weekend as well.

 

[sirius67fan]

It has nothing to do with Brett Harrison. I just used him an an example. I'm saying if other teams are willing to pay _____ then you need to be willing to pay _____.


Example:
NB steps up and says we'll give Procyzn+ picks for Arcuri, he's gone.

MISS steps up and says we'll give Karmiris+picks for Harrison, he's gone.

PBO steps up and says we'll give Van Volsen+picks for Wright/Clarke, he's gone.

You'd be left in the dust because you were stubborn and everyone else in the East just got way better.

Hamilton traded Connor McMichael in his rookie season because they knew they had a chance to win it all and they were right. That's the price of doing business sometimes.

Maybe you're right and no team will give a 1sts for Harrison/Arcuri. But maybe you're wrong and you get left standing at the table with your dick in your hand and just squandered a year where you had the best start in franchise history...

And that is my fear that if we are not agressive enough we might be left holding the bag. We didn't go all out in 18 and lost to a very good Guelph team that did. In 19 we didn't do much at the deadline, and we were in first place by a mile when the season was canceled. But would we have gotten by the Petes who did load up?? We'll never know. Now this year as of this point we're the class of the league despite significant injuries. If there is a year to go for it, it's now especially that we have the ammo. But as you've seen on this board we're not convinced they will as it's not how they operate. Boyd/Tourigny have been quite clear since 2017 the goal is to be good/competitive year in/year out which imo might not lead to championships but near misses. We'll see . As a side note though I do think we can upgrade enough without involving our 06's. We have plenty of draft picks and tradeable 05's.

 

[sirius67fan]

OMG question for you (or anybody else). We all kind of question the willingness of this team to go all out in view of recent history and comments from management. Do you think this is a long term strategy of the hockey people ( Boyd/Tourigny/Egert/Cameron) or do you think it's to a degree an OSEG mandate that they want a solid product every year instead of mountains/valleys?

 

[OMG67]

OMG question for you (or anybody else). We all kind of question the willingness of this team to go all out in view of recent history and comments from management. Do you think this is a long term strategy of the hockey people ( Boyd/Tourigny/Egert/Cameron) or do you think it's to a degree an OSEG mandate that they want a solid product every year instead of mountains/valleys?

Define “all in.”

For example, if Boyd decides that Harrison and Moore are his primary package target and Oshawa holds out for Mews plus three 2nds, three 3rds and two 4ths, would you endorse that deal?

The reason why I ask it that was is because all in may have a different meaning to some than others and I really think e need to talk apples to apples.

IMO, the team has parameters they work within and they are disciplined. They make their list, apply a value and work within that. If the ask is too high, they move on. Of all values are too high then they either be happy not doing anything or they go back to the drawing board to assess whether their trade values align with the market and decide if they need to reevaluate their matrix. That is how a disciplined organization works.

This is why OSEG is willing to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to their hockey ops team while Niagara pays virtually nothing.

 

[sirius67fan]

Define “all in.”

For example, if Boyd decides that Harrison and Moore are his primary package target and Oshawa holds out for Mews plus three 2nds, three 3rds and two 4ths, would you endorse that deal?

The reason why I ask it that was is because all in may have a different meaning to some than others and I really think e need to talk apples to apples.

IMO, the team has parameters they work within and they are disciplined. They make their list, apply a value and work within that. If the ask is too high, they move on. Of all values are too high then they either be happy not doing anything or they go back to the drawing board to assess whether their trade values align with the market and decide if they need to reevaluate their matrix. That is how a disciplined organization works.

This is why OSEG is willing to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to their hockey ops team while Niagara pays virtually nothing.

For me all in would include a willingness to trade our first rounder and empty the cupboard for a run. Mind you I am not advocating this this year as I think we have enough assets to upgrade significantly without our 06's. Now to set an hypothetical scenario. In another year where we are a strong contender but we have limited draft picks, let's say two seconds and two thirds. Would this group be willing to mortgage the future by emtying the cupboard, trade our first pick and maybe a high upside 17 y.o. to put the team over the top ?

 

[sirius67fan]

By the way to answer your question on Harrison/Moore no I would not do that deal as as much as I like those players the value is not there. Doesn't mean I would not have done it if I thought the value was there, for example Suzuki/Durzi/ 19y.o. winger( that owen sound traded elsewhere that year... forget the name right now)

 

[44 95 plus tax]

Define “all in.”

For example, if Boyd decides that Harrison and Moore are his primary package target and Oshawa holds out for Mews plus three 2nds, three 3rds and two 4ths, would you endorse that deal?

The reason why I ask it that was is because all in may have a different meaning to some than others and I really think e need to talk apples to apples.

IMO, the team has parameters they work within and they are disciplined. They make their list, apply a value and work within that. If the ask is too high, they move on. Of all values are too high then they either be happy not doing anything or they go back to the drawing board to assess whether their trade values align with the market and decide if they need to reevaluate their matrix. That is how a disciplined organization works.

This is why OSEG is willing to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to their hockey ops team while Niagara pays virtually nothing.

The other thing to consider is if we were to empty the cupboards this year, what do we have next year to trade to recoup the assets if they were to target 24/25?

Rohrer
Beck (OA) if not with Calgary org.
Mayich
Donoso (OA)

 

[PuckStop75]

Define “all in.”

For example, if Boyd decides that Harrison and Moore are his primary package target and Oshawa holds out for Mews plus three 2nds, three 3rds and two 4ths, would you endorse that deal?

The reason why I ask it that was is because all in may have a different meaning to some than others and I really think e need to talk apples to apples.

IMO, the team has parameters they work within and they are disciplined. They make their list, apply a value and work within that. If the ask is too high, they move on. Of all values are too high then they either be happy not doing anything or they go back to the drawing board to assess whether their trade values align with the market and decide if they need to reevaluate their matrix. That is how a disciplined organization works.

This is why OSEG is willing to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to their hockey ops team while Niagara pays virtually nothing.

My fear this year would be they fall in love with the idea of Morrison as there OA centre acquisition and at the end of the day Hamilton gets what they want by trading other players and decides to hold onto him, and Ottawa is left not addressing the glaring need at centre... this is just an example, and could apply to any number of players.

As far as being disciplined, its hasn't worked to this point. The market dictates the price, if they want to be a winner the cost to get the players they need will be what it is. Staois got the players he wanted and won two Championships in 4 years by understanding the market and compensating for it. Burnett in 2019 knew who the guys were and got the deal done, and at the end of the day really didn't over pay for them. GM's getting hundreds of thousands of dollars know how to make these things work.

 

[PuckStop75]

The other thing to consider is if we were to empty the cupboards this year, what do we have next year to trade to recoup the assets if they were to target 24/25?

Rohrer
Beck (OA) if not with Calgary org.
Mayich
Donoso (OA)

If the team goes all in this year, they have more than these four to work with, Stonehouse, Pinelli, Gardiner, Foster, Sirman, Smyth all have value in the market. As ridiculous as the Harrison and Moore trade appears in OMG's post they would still have 4-2nds, 6-3rds and 4-4ths remaining. The cupboard isn't even empty. The only true loss from the deal is Mews who they can replace in trade or by drafting another high end RD.

 

[NordiquesForeva]

I'm on the record as wanting Boyd to go for it this year. While being competitive season-to-season is nice and helps make my Friday evenings and Sunday afternoons with my son more enjoyable, trading some assets away this year, even Marrelli or Mews, to get someone of Morrison's (or even Wright's) caliber and another good piece or two would be worth it my view. They would still have a reasonably strong team next year, despite Boucher, Tolnai, Matier and Constantini graduating (even in the unlikely event that Rohrer for whatever reason decides to go back and play in Europe before going up to the AHL).

Ottawa is loaded with 18 year olds...which kind of reinforces the point that to contend this year they need to extend their roster out a bit with less dependence on guys like Foster, Gerrior, Barlas and Gardiner. While I said earlier that Gardiner centering the 4th line would be a luxury, that's more or less how championship teams are built.

I also like the idea of keeping the Morrisons and Wrights of the world out of Peterborough and NB...not only to stick it to them (especially Peterborough), but I think we'd be in big, big trouble in a 7-game playoff round against either of those two teams if they went out and got help and we didn't. Maybe I'm totally off-base on this, but Cameron could be our trump card; with his track record for player development and experience behind the bench, part of me believes that other franchises would see Ottawa as a really good destination for a well-respected player like Morrison that they would want to do good by before they move on from the OHL.

 

[44 95 plus tax]

If the team goes all in this year, they have more than these four to work with, Stonehouse, Pinelli, Gardiner, Foster, Sirman, Smyth all have value in the market. As ridiculous as the Harrison and Moore trade appears in OMG's post they would still have 4-2nds, 6-3rds and 4-4ths remaining. The cupboard isn't even empty. The only true loss from the deal is Mews who they can replace in trade or by drafting another high end RD.

I only put those players on my list that wouldn't be a part of a 24/25 team that could possibly contend.