Ottawa 67's 2022-23 Off-Season Thread (Part 4)

[beastintheeast]

Now that the Bulls have a connection with the Sens through ownership, you have to think the deals of draft picks playing are done. too bad

 

[Boris67]

Looks like Rohrer not coming back for 19yr season…big blow to the Poles

 

[OMG67]

Looks like Rohrer not coming back for 19yr season…big blow to the Poles

Not sure that is 100% confirmed. I understood it as him needing to make his club team in a role that makes sense for his development. I didn’t think that would be confirmed until later in the summer.

We’ll probably have confirmation if Ottawa makes two Import picks.

 

[BarberPole9]

Cet espoir du CH délaissera-t-il la OHL au profit de l'Europe ?

L'espoir des Canadiens de Montréal, Vinzenz Rohrer, sera-t-il de retour dans la OHL l'an prochain ou passera-t-il en NL en Suisse ?

www.toutsurlehockey.com

It doesn’t sound like there’s a decision yet. I FULLY trust 67’s management to nail the import draft.

 

[OMG67]

Cet espoir du CH délaissera-t-il la OHL au profit de l'Europe ?

L'espoir des Canadiens de Montréal, Vinzenz Rohrer, sera-t-il de retour dans la OHL l'an prochain ou passera-t-il en NL en Suisse ?

www.toutsurlehockey.com

It doesn’t sound like there’s a decision yet. I FULLY trust 67’s management to nail the import draft.

I know this may sound a little off base but I really don’t think Rohrer’s trade value would have been significant enough to deal him. Since it is a rebuilding year of sorts, if the 67’s can nail the Import draft and bring in two new guys, we will be that much further ahead next season instead of adding another rookie Import.

I think Rohrer wold have been pigeon holed into playing centre where he isn‘t elite. If he were on the wing and on pace to score 40+ goals at the deadline, we’d likely get something. But, another 20 goal and 60 point season at centre woudl have made Rohrer relatively valueless as a trade piece. Unless the Import is elite, they really don’t garner much in return. Maybe a 2nd and 5th? We’d be more likely to keep him and need to bring in an other rookie next season.

The 67’s have coin to throw around and they have a strong reputation. I don’t think they will have a difficult time luring two young imports into the organization. Develop them this year and be better off next year.

 

[beastintheeast]

Not sure that is 100% confirmed. I understood it as him needing to make his club team in a role that makes sense for his development. I didn’t think that would be confirmed until later in the summer.

We’ll probably have confirmation if Ottawa makes two Import picks.

Not really because I think they can make the 2 pics anyway just have to be down to 2 players at camp do they not?

BTW OMG I seem to remember someone or something earlier this year saying that Rohrer would not be back as he would play in Europe.
Somebody said that that was not possible.

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lol

Raccoon 3 Moldenhauer not playing OHL, Wright getting sent back Rohrer playing in Europe
others 0

 

[NordiquesForeva]

Cet espoir du CH délaissera-t-il la OHL au profit de l'Europe ?

L'espoir des Canadiens de Montréal, Vinzenz Rohrer, sera-t-il de retour dans la OHL l'an prochain ou passera-t-il en NL en Suisse ?

www.toutsurlehockey.com

It doesn’t sound like there’s a decision yet. I FULLY trust 67’s management to nail the import draft.

I can tell you with near certainty that Rohrer will be playing in Zurich next season and won't be returning to Ottawa.

 

[OMG67]

Rohrer not returning takes every inclination of not selling out of the equation.

As of right now, Gardiner is their first line centre. They don’t have a 2nd line centre.

Whitehead wil likely be given an opportunity as the 3rd centre and I am 100% fine with that.

The only remaining question is whether they can unearth a centre in the Import draft and/or whether they can acquire an OA centre on the cheap to fill the gap at centre but they’d need to do that in the preseason. I don’t think they can wait. The wingers need the support. It doesn’t need to be a stud. It just needs to be someone capable of scoring in that 40 point range that can be responsible defensively. The skill on the wings will help prop up the centre.

 

[Mild Italian]

I can tell you with near certainty that Rohrer will be playing in Zurich next season and won't be returning to Ottawa.

If you consider Küsnacht, Zürich you are right

 

[armchaircoaches]

Rohrer not returning takes every inclination of not selling out of the equation.

As of right now, Gardiner is their first line centre. They don’t have a 2nd line centre.

Whitehead wil likely be given an opportunity as the 3rd centre and I am 100% fine with that.

The only remaining question is whether they can unearth a centre in the Import draft and/or whether they can acquire an OA centre on the cheap to fill the gap at centre but they’d need to do that in the preseason. I don’t think they can wait. The wingers need the support. It doesn’t need to be a stud. It just needs to be someone capable of scoring in that 40 point range that can be responsible defensively. The skill on the wings will help prop up the centre.

Rumour out of Sudbury is that mccallum wants a change put up 61 pts mite be a fit?

 

[Stellar29]

Rumour out of Sudbury is that mccallum wants a change put up 61 pts mite be a fit?

Would Owen Sound make sense? Kaleb Lawrence could be available as Owen Sound has a surplus of 03s. 7th round LA Kings draft pick hungry to earn a pro contract. Put up 37 points in 50 games played last year as his first back after missing essentially two seasons due to covid and shoulder surgery. Played center in Owen Sound. Owen Sound could use help on the blue line and Ottawa seems to have a surplus. Seems like a possible trade partner.

 

[OnlyUpFromHere]

Any ideas on what is happening with Henry Brzustewicz and if he's signing here?

Seems weird 67's have signed their next 3 picks before signing him.

 

[OMG67]

Any ideas on what is happening with Henry Brzustewicz and if he's signing here?

Seems weird 67's have signed their next 3 picks before signing him.

It does seem odd. His brother is in the OHL and seems to be doing well so we have to assume he will sign.

 

[OMG67]

Rumour out of Sudbury is that mccallum wants a change put up 61 pts mite be a fit?

The reality is we simply don’t know the strategy for the upcoming season. I have an opinion on what I think it should be but just because I think a certain way doesn’t mean the team management feels the same.

We do know Ottawa is definitely short down the middle. They really do need a veteran capable of playing first line with quality wingers. It doesn’t mean they need another Logan Morrison type but a Panwar type player would fit in just fine for a stop gap solution. It would bump Gardiner to second line where it would be more manageable.

 

[beastintheeast]

Barring trades and depending on the Euro draft and quality of the players we draft

This is the season's starting line up

Pinelli Foster Stonehouse
Beck Gardner Gerrior
Barlas Euro Dever
Euro Whitehead Hilton
Caden Yanni

Mayich Mews
Marelli Brzutewicz
Dietsch Ewles
Sirman Horner

Donoso
Blackwood
Nelson

Bold - 1 of these guys gets hit with the numbers bug. It also depends on how Cameron wants to go in the nets. This is a team that is in a retool, and having Blackwood play the majority of the games and a 16-year-old play a few is not unthought of. Ottawa has done it in the past. Again it depends on a lot of things but again this is all barring trades. we could see Ottawa trade Donoso for picks and a goalie
In that case, Nelson will go back to Jr CCHL

 

[OMG67]

Barring trades and depending on the Euro draft and quality of the players we draft

This is the season's starting line up

Pinelli Foster Stonehouse
Beck Gardner Gerrior
Barlas Euro Dever
Euro Whitehead Hilton
Caden Yanni

Mayich Mews
Marelli Brzutewicz
Dietsch Ewles
Sirman Horner

Donoso
Blackwood
Nelson

Bold - 1 of these guys gets hit with the numbers bug. It also depends on how Cameron wants to go in the nets. This is a team that is in a retool, and having Blackwood play the majority of the games and a 16-year-old play a few is not unthought of. Ottawa has done it in the past. Again it depends on a lot of things but again this is all barring trades. we could see Ottawa trade Donoso for picks and a goalie
In that case, Nelson will go back to Jr CCHL

Why do you always omit MacKenzie in net? Do you think hey will trade the 19 year old that has two seasons in him to keep the OA that only has this season in him?

And, who is Blackwood? You’ve listed him a couple times and I have no idea who he is.

 

[OMG67]

This is what I have for next season:

Beck(OA) - OA trade - Stonehouse
Pinelli - Gardiner - Gerrior
Foster - 1st Import - Kelly
Barlas - Whitehead - Dever
Yanni - Hilton

Marrelli - Mews
Mayich - Brzustewicz
Sirman - Ewles
Dietsch - Horner

MacKenzie
Import or 2022 draft pick

I see the following transactions in the pre-season:
1> Donoso will be traded. If not in the pre-season then very early in the season.
2> Smyth will be dealt to a team that will afford him proper playing time. I think they will keep Sirman in the interim, at least through to the deadline.
3> They will fill an OA Spot with a placeholder OA Centre. Maybe a waiver claim or a cheap addition from a team with a surplus of OA’s.
4> Look for the 67’s to draft a goalie in the Import draft. If they don’t, then they have confidence in signing one of their drafted goalies from last year’s draft or the previous draft Coming out of training camp. They don’t need a D-Man Import and it is unlikely they add two Import Centres unless one of them is older.

Possibilities to look for:
1> Beck could transition to Centre. He has played there a little bit and when he has he hasn’t looked out of place. I think he is a better and more impactful winger because of his shot but he does work the puck down low well and is comfortable defensively. He may be the next Rohrer forced into playing centre.
2> Barlas looks to be the odd man out unless he slides back to centre. We could see some movement here with him or maybe Foster.
3> Trade or release one of their two newly drafted Imports for a more experienced Import.
4> Jack Beck traded at the deadline.
5> A breakout season for Kelly. There’s something about that kid that makes me think he may unseat Gerrior on that depth chart
6> Stonehouse trade at the deadline? Possible. If he is drafted this month and looks like a candidate for being signed and not returning as an OA, I think they will entertain offers at least.

This season screams RETOOL. They still should be competitive and probably hang in that .550% range but we should see some younger players starting to elevate their games and show they belong. We may see some other players get pushed aside by the younger guys. It looks like they’ve drafted well so we shall see what happens!

EDIT:
This represents more of a depth chart rather than actual line proposals…

It may also be good for the 67’s to look at trading one of the wingers in an effort to get a comparable centre. One in, one out.

 

[beastintheeast]

Why do you always omit MacKenzie in net? Do you think hey will trade the 19 year old that has two seasons in him to keep the OA that only has this season in him?

And, who is Blackwood? You’ve listed him a couple times and I have no idea who he is.

my bad should Mackenzie

This is what I have for next season:

Beck(OA) - OA trade - Stonehouse
Pinelli - Gardiner - Gerrior
Foster - 1st Import - Kelly
Barlas - Whitehead - Dever
Yanni - Hilton

Marrelli - Mews
Mayich - Brzustewicz
Sirman - Ewles
Dietsch - Horner

MacKenzie
Import or 2022 draft pick

I see the following transactions in the pre-season:
1> Donoso will be traded. If not in the pre-season then very early in the season.
2> Smyth will be dealt to a team that will afford him proper playing time. I think they will keep Sirman in the interim, at least through to the deadline.
3> They will fill an OA Spot with a placeholder OA Centre. Maybe a waiver claim or a cheap addition from a team with a surplus of OA’s.
4> Look for the 67’s to draft a goalie in the Import draft. If they don’t, then they have confidence in signing one of their drafted goalies from last year’s draft or the previous draft Coming out of training camp. They don’t need a D-Man Import and it is unlikely they add two Import Centres unless one of them is older.

Possibilities to look for:
1> Beck could transition to Centre. He has played there a little bit and when he has he hasn’t looked out of place. I think he is a better and more impactful winger because of his shot but he does work the puck down low well and is comfortable defensively. He may be the next Rohrer forced into playing centre.
2> Barlas looks to be the odd man out unless he slides back to centre. We could see some movement here with him or maybe Foster.
3> Trade or release one of their two newly drafted Imports for a more experienced Import.
4> Jack Beck traded at the deadline.
5> A breakout season for Kelly. There’s something about that kid that makes me think he may unseat Gerrior on that depth chart
6> Stonehouse trade at the deadline? Possible. If he is drafted this month and looks like a candidate for being signed and not returning as an OA, I think they will entertain offers at least.

This season screams RETOOL. They still should be competitive and probably hang in that .550% range but we should see some younger players starting to elevate their games and show they belong. We may see some other players get pushed aside by the younger guys. It looks like they’ve drafted well so we shall see what happens!

EDIT:
This represents more of a depth chart rather than actual line proposals…

It may also be good for the 67’s to look at trading one of the wingers in an effort to get a comparable centre. One in, one out.

I think you will see Foster start as a center. Could be Barlas but I would put more money on Foster.
If we are looking at Barlas as a 3rd line player then we definitely screwed the draft. I think he either has to get 3rdline or needs to be traded. Let's be fair to the kid.

I don't see them panicking at center right away. I think they will go with what they have drafted and see how that works out.
Like you said this is a retool therefore you want to see what the new parts you have can do before you start putting old parts (OA) into the engine.

This is a team that should be more hungry and looking to perform. Lets see how the Euro and Whitehead turn out.

Also remember we are going to be looking at at least 1-2 surprise players as always on forward.

Who predicted Pinelli, Garner and Foster having the years they had? I am thinking Hilton is going to be one of them.

Has anyone seen the roster on the 67 website it is showing 6 goalies? If we have any one of these guys it is going to be interesting just not sure it is not a webmaster oops.

 

[OMG67]

my bad should Mackenzie

I think you will see Foster start as a center. Could be Barlas but I would put more money on Foster.
If we are looking at Barlas as a 3rd line player then we definitely screwed the draft. I think he either has to get 3rdline or needs to be traded. Let's be fair to the kid.

I don't see them panicking at center right away. I think they will go with what they have drafted and see how that works out.
Like you said this is a retool therefore you want to see what the new parts you have can do before you start putting old parts (OA) into the engine.

This is a team that should be more hungry and looking to perform. Lets see how the Euro and Whitehead turn out.

Also remember we are going to be looking at at least 1-2 surprise players as always on forward.

Who predicted Pinelli, Garner and Foster having the years they had? I am thinking Hilton is going to be one of them.

Has anyone seen the roster on the 67 website it is showing 6 goalies? If we have any one of these guys it is going to be interesting just not sure it is not a webmaster oops.

They really don’t have natural centres. They can stop gap a couple guys and shift them to centre but that’s not ideal. That said, I can also see them at least take their time And shift players like Beck, Foster and Barlas to centre in the interim. How long they do that is TBD. They can also draft centres int he Import draft but they would typically draft 17 year olds. Gardiner as the #1 with two 17 year old Imports in the #2 and #3 with 16 year old Whitehead in the #4 is a recipe for disaster.

If they move donoso, they will have two open OA slots. To me, it makes most sense to at least use one of those spots on a centre. IT doesn’t need to be an elite centre, jsut someone with experience that can be sandwiched between two solid wingers. Another Alex Johnson type would be fine. A Sanil Panwar wouLD be more ideal.

 

[44 95 plus tax]

Marrelli - Mews
Mayich - Brzustewicz
Sirman - Ewles
Dietsch - Horner

Smyth will be dealt to a team that will afford him proper playing time. I think they will keep Sirman in the interim, at least through to the deadline.

We'll keep Sirman. Could end up being our #3 centre...

 

[OMG67]

Marrelli - Mews
Mayich - Brzustewicz
Sirman - Ewles
Dietsch - Horner

Smyth will be dealt to a team that will afford him proper playing time. I think they will keep Sirman in the interim, at least through to the deadline.

We'll keep Sirman. Could end up being our #3 centre...

HAHAHAHAHAHA

+1

Love it!

 

[Bra Wavers]

They really don’t have natural centres. They can stop gap a couple guys and shift them to centre but that’s not ideal. That said, I can also see them at least take their time And shift players like Beck, Foster and Barlas to centre in the interim. How long they do that is TBD. They can also draft centres int he Import draft but they would typically draft 17 year olds. Gardiner as the #1 with two 17 year old Imports in the #2 and #3 with 16 year old Whitehead in the #4 is a recipe for disaster.

If they move donoso, they will have two open OA slots. To me, it makes most sense to at least use one of those spots on a centre. IT doesn’t need to be an elite centre, jsut someone with experience that can be sandwiched between two solid wingers. Another Alex Johnson type would be fine. A Sanil Panwar wouLD be more ideal.

Hey OMG67,
Nice to see that you are still crushing hard on Panwar. So happy that he had a strong 2nd half after the Petes dealt him. Hoping he gets a sniff at a contract somewhere.

 

[OMG67]

Hey OMG67,
Nice to see that you are still crushing hard on Panwar. So happy that he had a strong 2nd half after the Petes dealt him. Hoping he gets a sniff at a contract somewhere.

Yeah. I’m not so much crushing on him so much as using him as an example of an OA that is responsible enough to contribUte but no so much so that the cost is heavy.

I never understood why Petes fans in general looked at him as their 4th line centre. He’s a legit 3rd line centre on a Championship team and proved he could be a top 6 player on a middling team provided he was playing with some talented players. I think that is the exact type of OA Centre the 67’s need. A guy with some experience that can hold his own and elevate his game to match the quality wingers he plays with. I think he 67’s have a lot of quality wingers to make average centres look pretty good. BUT, they do need one experienced guy up front to help carry the load. A player like Panwar would fill that role perfectly.

 

[beastintheeast]

Is the new arena going to be finished for the 25-26 season. Should be interesting

 

[OMG67]

Is the new arena going to be finished for the 25-26 season. Should be interesting

It isn’t approved yet so unlikely it will be done anytime in the near future.

I don’t even know what the status is at this point.