Confirmed Trade: [OTT/SJ] Erik Karlsson and Francis Perron for Tierney, DeMelo, Norris, Balcers, 1st, 2nd, cdnl picks

[BatVader]

The Sharks better go "all in" this year.... I don't think EK signs long term there....

If he goes to UFA, prepare for another bidding war....

I think by the TDL, the Sharks will have a good idea of EKs intentions and there’s no way they let him go for free.

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

To be fair..what did San Jose get? A one season window to win a Cup and 10 months of exclusive negotiation rights. It's not nothing, but they could easily lose early again with EK and EK could easily opt for free agency then (I think he'd be a fool not to given his marketability). There's a reason the return isn't anything franchise-changing..because EK may very well not be franchise-changing for San Jose either.

 

[NoName]

Interestingly with Patches and Karlsson moving, the Pacific division just got a whole lot stronger, while the Atlantic got even more top-heavy.

 

[lowol]

Dorion presser's live: Watch Live: Erik Karlsson press conference - Sportsnet.ca

Allegedly, the plan to trade him away was in place in February.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Ive been telling Sens fans theyd be underwhelmed for months

 

[Little Psycho]

There's already trouble in the Shark's room as one of them won't win the Norris.

Norris race this season is gonna be

1) Hedman
2) Subban
3) some guy from the Pacific

 

[The Macho King]

Dorion presser's live: Watch Live: Erik Karlsson press conference - Sportsnet.ca

Allegedly, the plan to trade him away was in place in February.

Which makes leaking the contract offers more skeezy. They were not sincere offers.

 

[Fogelhund]

This could in a round about way make Justin Braun available and I'm already driving Connor Brown to the airport

I'm not sure that it does at this point. They have the Cap Space for this year, and need someone on the Right Side who can play D. Would Brown even make them better? Maybe start a thread and ask their fans?

 

[Conrad McBenis]

Karlsson and Burns on the same team

wow

And Vlasic

 

[Grigowski]

I smell trade coming up.

After this one every GM should hang on the phone calling Dorion... Summer sale in Ottawa....

 

[Quinning]

The Sharks better go "all in" this year.... I don't think EK signs long term there....

If he goes to UFA, prepare for another bidding war....

He'll be able to choose where he wants to play. Half the teams in the league will offer max cap.

 

[viper0220]

A random poster on HF would be a better GM than Dorion.

I think Dorion should just post his trades before they happen, on HFboards, he would win most of them. We could just vote on them

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Man this is ugly. No 2019 1st. And they didn’t even acquire a prospect better than a Shane Bowers who was supposedly a “throw in” on the Duchene trade which flew under the radar after Turris and the 1st they gave up.

 

[Quinning]

After this one every GM should hang on the phone calling Dorion... Summer sale in Ottawa....

I feel that's like going to a Boxing Day sale at 2pm.

 

[Icebreakers]

Ive been telling Sens fans theyd be underwhelmed for months

Im pretty sure this trade is even beyond your expectations of how low the offer was.

 

[Robert Kentwood]

Ive been telling Sens fans theyd be underwhelmed for months

You and all of HF...

 

[Cousin Eddie]

To be fair..what did San Jose get? A one season window to win a Cup and 10 months of exclusive negotiation rights. It's not nothing, but they could easily lose early again with EK and EK could easily opt for free agency then (I think he'd be a fool not to given his marketability). There's a reason the return isn't anything franchise-changing..because EK may very well not be franchise-changing for San Jose either.

They got the best defenseman the NHL has seen since Lidstrom.

 

[NYR713]

At least the conditions were strong. Per CapFriendly

2019 conditional 2nd round pick*
2020 conditional 1st round pick**
2021 conditional 2nd round pick***
conditional 1st round pick****

Conditions: *2019 2nd round pick is the higher of the two picks the Sharks currently own: Panthers and their own.
**Ottawa receives Sharks 2019 1st round pick if Sharks do not make the playoffs. If Sharks make the playoffs, Ottawa receives Sharks 2020 1st.
***Sens receive Sharks 2021 2nd round pick if Karlsson is re-signed. The selection upgrades to a 2021 1st if Sharks reach the Stanley Cup final in 2019.
****Sens receive a 1st RD pick from the Sharks (no later than 2022) if Karlsson is on an Eastern Conference roster (reserve list) during the 2018-19 season.

So, if Sharks... for some odd reason... are not looking like they'll make the playoffs and decide to sell Karlsson at the deadline (as many have mentioned) then most Eastern Conference teams would be out because if they trade him there it's another 1st pick to Ottawa no later than 2022. I feel like Ottawa, and everyone else involved, already knows he isn't going to extend there and they were at least smart enough to set those little conditional pieces up to maximize on a rental.

 

[karnige]

Wow.....Habs got more for Pacioretty.

yeah but patches signed an extension. something agreed when the trade was made, hence the higher return. karlsson imo doesnt stay and no extension signed which is why the return was lackluster

 

[Avsboy]

I dont see how this is a bad trade for the Sens.

They got back a recent 2017 1st rounder, s 2019 1st and 2nd, 25 year old Tierney coming off a 40pt year, a 24 year old defenseman coming off a shortened 20pt year and two lottery players for ONE season of Erik Karlsson.

Tierney and DeMelo had statistically-anomalous good seasons last season on a far superior San Jose squad. They're fairly old, won't be there for when the Senators bloom. Speaking of which, the only prospect of note was Josh Norris, who hasn't exactly lit the AHL on fire. The picks will be low.

These are spare parts.

As an Avs fan, I am happy for the 2019 Ott pick we have, but also can't relate to this predicament for Ottawa considering they have a really bad team and no pick, a situation Avs have not been in. It will be a long rebuild with rising cynicism in the fanbase.

 

[MOGlLNY]

Feel horrible for Senators fans, jesus.

 

[Grigowski]

So the Sharks better get it done this year.... I think there wont be another shot if they manage to fail this season....

 

[Evincar]

Trades for Thornton
Trades for Boyle
Trades for Heatley
Trades for Burns
Trades for Karlsson

Doug Wilson is the master of the blockbuster trade.

 

[TMLeafer]

Not deterred by being taken advantage of in the Hoffman trade, Dorion delivers Karlsson to SJ.

 

[MiscBrah]

At least the conditions were strong. Per CapFriendly

2019 conditional 2nd round pick*
2020 conditional 1st round pick**
2021 conditional 2nd round pick***
conditional 1st round pick****

Conditions: *2019 2nd round pick is the higher of the two picks the Sharks currently own: Panthers and their own.
**Ottawa receives Sharks 2019 1st round pick if Sharks do not make the playoffs. If Sharks make the playoffs, Ottawa receives Sharks 2020 1st.
***Sens receive Sharks 2021 2nd round pick if Karlsson is re-signed. The selection upgrades to a 2021 1st if Sharks reach the Stanley Cup final in 2019.
****Sens receive a 1st RD pick from the Sharks (no later than 2022) if Karlsson is on an Eastern Conference roster (reserve list) during the 2018-19 season.

So, if Sharks... for some odd reason... are not looking like they'll make the playoffs and decide to sell Karlsson at the deadline (as many have mentioned) then most Eastern Conference teams would be out because if they trade him there it's another 1st pick to Ottawa no later than 2022. I feel like Ottawa, and everyone else involved, already knows he isn't going to extend there and they were at least smart enough to set those little conditional pieces up to maximize on a rental.

Those conditions mean nothing. All San Jose has to do is get a little bit better of a deal than a 1st rounder and they make a the trade anyways. SJ receives 1st rounder + 2nd roounder from Toronto. SJ gives ottawa 1st rounder and keeps the 2nd rounder.

 

[FightingIrish17]

Lol remember when Sens fans were demanding Draisaitl in return? I tried to tell you guys that the return would be so much less than expected.