Value of: Please Give Honest Trade Values For NY Rangers

[NickyFotiu]

Sabres...trade....every captain. We just gave him the C this year. He is also our best player, and I don't think fox is quite as good.

We have traded a lot as well. Hockey is a great game but a rough business at times.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Keep in mind that it cost Calgary a 1st to trade one year of Monohan at $6 million, and IIRC, Toronto had to give up a 1st to get rid of 1 year of Marleau at the same price. Granted, the cap wasn't projected to increase as it is now, but the market has been set. Back injuries to players in their 30s don't age well. Especially when they're not doing the only thing they're really good at. I mean no one is acquiring him for the PK...

Monahan's 3 years before being traded:
48 pts
28 pts
23 pts

Kreider's last 3 (2 1/2) years:
54
77
20

Kreider 91 goals in that time Monahan 40

Some team would absolutely give an asset for Kreider, not a big asset, but something. Especially if NYR retained a million or so.

 

[Jared Dunn]

Gotta get Panarin to the Caps

 

[derkejohnlee]

Mika Zibanejad: Similar player that's struggling with a negative contract (Stamkos, Palat, Lindholm, Huberdeau).

Chris Kreider: 2nd or 3rd + AHLer

K'Andre Miller: 2nd + AHLer

Adam Fox: 2-1sts, 1 top prospects (former 1st rounder), Top 2/4 defenseman that's team controlled (ex. Dobson + 1st + Cole Eiserman; Brandt Clarke + 2-1st + Danault; Sandin-Pellikka + Nate Danielson + JT Compher)

Artemi Panarin: 1st, 1 top prospect, Top 6 forward that's team controlled. (ex. 1st + Nate Danielson + Compher or Copp; Mavrik Bourque + Tyler Seguin + 2nd)

 

[bernmeister]

Monahan's 3 years before being traded:
48 pts
28 pts
23 pts

Kreider's last 3 (2 1/2) years:
54
77
20

Kreider 91 goals in that time Monahan 40

Some team would absolutely give an asset for Kreider, not a big asset, but something. Especially if NYR retained a million or so.

esp when you consider CK has been a beast
he less dynamic a force now, but when spot on he is still

Gotta get Panarin to the Caps

sent Frasier Crane on my behalf: I'm listening...

 

[QuizGuy66]

I would trade the Rangers for a used pair of socks.

 

[iago]

Please Give Honest Trade Values For Each Or Any Of These NY Rangers Individually.​

Mika Zibanejad

Chris Kreider

K'Andre Miller

Adam Fox

Artemi Panarin

My views on these players may well be different than a majority of other responders, but here are my thoughts :

I have almost zero interest in MZbjd or CK. CK's back, age, lack of production, and contract are an issue, and MZjbd has a contract and decline in production that make both unattractive. Both would require substantial sweeteners to gain my interest.

KM is the guy I want. He has everything a top 4 defenseman needs. I value him the best of this group, and would offer a 1st++ to get him.

Conversely, I am not as high on Fox as others might be. He is very good in the O zone, but not so much in his own zone. My offer for him would be lower than for Miller.

Breadman is a tough call. Obviously is good with the puck both shooting and passing. Also a plus skater. He will probably draw a 1st and a 4th + a good young player and an A prospect.

 

[wintersej]

CK was never a big assist guy but he set a career high in assists around 8 months ago. He started the season scoring goals. He has likely been playing through a back situation. It is unlikely that CK could skate well and score in the first 2 weeks of the season but then magically lost that ability for 3 months.

Back issues at his age are not an excuse to brush away but a giant enormous red flag.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Purely from a Sens fans perspective... not saying these are winning offers, but what I think we would be wise to offer.

Zibanejad - No go.

Kreider - with 20-30% retained for David Perron + JBD, maybe a mid-rounder.

KA Miller - No go. Like the player but there is just no fit.

Fox - Available: 1 of Chabot, Zub, or Jensen; 1 of Batherson, Greig, or Pinto; 1 of Giroux or Norris; any prospect, including Ostapchuk (half-season NHLer) and Merilainen (quarter-season NHLer); any pick.

Panarin - No real viable deal, especially when you factor in the NMC..... but maybe something around Batherson + Norris? I don't think we would part with Yakemchuk in a Panarin deal, which seems like it could be the only way to get it done.

 

[shadow1]

If Colorado can't find a better 2C option elsewhere, I'd do Ross Colton and Casey Mittelstadt for Mika Zibanejad.

Possibly even turn it into a massive deal with Ryan Lindgren (50%) and/or Reilly Smith (50%) in the deal.

(For the record, Colton is a LW/RW now, not a C.)

 

[bernmeister]

If Colorado can't find a better 2C option elsewhere, I'd do Ross Colton and Casey Mittelstadt for Mika Zibanejad.

Possibly even turn it into a massive deal with Ryan Lindgren (50%) and/or Reilly Smith (50%) in the deal.

(For the record, Colton is a LW/RW now, not a C.)

if zib waives, done!

 

[ManofSteel55]

NHL GMs are pretty dumb. Chris Kreider has a "reputation" around the league. The Rangers could still trade him at positive value IMHO. Despite his awful stats. It might not yield the Rangers any great return. But it won't be purely negative value IMHO.

There are always lower end teams with lots of cap space willing to take a gamble on a player that is overpaid for their current production. It's also important to note that most of the time, teams don't dump guys like Kreider as soon as they have a bad season. We're talking about a guy who scored 39 goals and 75 points last season. It could be that he hit a wall, but I expect the Rangers will give him the chance to rebound before they dump him. That said, I think their GM is a buffoon, so who knows what he does.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Back issues at his age are not an excuse to brush away but a giant enormous red flag.

Playing through pain of any kind is really hard. I really do think CK should have just rested and sought treatment for 2-4 weeks.

 

[ThreeLeftSkates]

Adam Fox: 2-1sts, 1 top prospects (former 1st rounder), Top 2/4 defenseman that's team controlled (ex. Dobson + 1st + Cole Eiserman;

Even Lou isn't that senile, yet.

 

[Score08]

Frederic carlo potiras for Fox

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Patterson + 1st + 2nd + Pettersson (younger Defensemen not one from Pittsburgh) for Fox + JT Miller

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

The NMCs cause issues with assessing the values in a trade but...
Zibanejad - Mentioned earlier but Colorado makes sense and something with Mittlestadt going back would make more sense.

Miller - I could see Pittsburgh interested. 2 x 2nds and Grzelcyk who is a UFA.

Panarin - He'd still get a 1st plus good prospect at minimum.

Kreider - There would still be a market for him for sure from playoff teams. 1st plus cap going back as a starter.

Fox - He'd still get a haul even with a poor year as he's a RHD. 1st, good prospect, roster player.