Confirmed Trade: [OTT/SJ] Erik Karlsson and Francis Perron for Tierney, DeMelo, Norris, Balcers, 1st, 2nd, cdnl picks

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The reason EK is traded is because of Melnyk.
The reason for the **** return is because of Dorion.
The reason for the "flip to the east" clause is because Wilson made Dorion look like the moron he is after flipping Hoffman back to the east.

who put the restriction of not trading Hoffman/EK to an eastern team. Dorion or Melnyk?
 
Dorion: Why would I trade with you again Doug? You traded Hoffman right back to my division last time!

Wilson: Fine. If I do that this time, and Karlsson plays for an Eastern team this season, you get a 1st rounder.

Dorion: I'm listening....

Wilson: I'll give you a 7th d-man, a 3rd line center, a former first rounder who had a poor year last year, a former fourth rounder, a 2nd in 2019, a 1st rounder two years from now, and if I sign Karlsson we'll give you more... say a 2nd rounder in 2021?

Dorion: Yes.

Gold Cor...Gold!
 
Don't get me wrong, it's a bad return, I'm just rolling my eyes at the "wow, Sens fans said no to this!" posts in here.
But that's the thing, isn't it? If you can't get Karlsson to agree to a pre trade extension, why not wait til the deadline? Or why even worry about sending him to one of those "shortlist" teams like SJ, DAL, VGK, TB, etc?

There will be lesser players than Karlsson that get moved for better returns at the deadline this season. Hell, SJ could move him at the deadline this season and get back better than what they paid. I just find it so very difficult to believe that what they received was the best offer on the table.
 
That means San Jose gave up a pile of assets to watch Karlsson skate around for a year.

I know everyone is bashing the Sens but what happens this year with SJ and whether Karlsson signs an extension matters a lot.

Not really.

Obviously we'd like him to stay but this is purely a win-win type of deal for the Sharks. We didn't expend a lot of assets on Erik Karlsson, which means he could walk away into free agency and we wouldn't really lose much. On the other hand, if Karlsson stays, excellent.
 
If there are any Ottawa fans left, I expect them to be heavily involved in the Lafreniere, Holtz, Raymond, Byfield and Vierling threads for the next 21 months.
 
Matt Duchene, Chris Tierney, Jean Gabriel Pageau,
Colin White, Logan Brown, Mark Stone,Ryan Dzingel,
Bobby Ryan,Mikkel Bödker,Brady Tkachuk, Magnus Pääjärvi,
Zach Smith, Tom Pyatt

That forward 13some does not look that bad to me, quite good actually, (or relatively good at least)
sure the defense and goaltending is at AHL level, soooooo....T-R-A-S-H!
 
This puts SJ up there with Nashville, Vegas and Winnipeg in the West .
Does it? I still see Winnipeg as the best of that group. I don't like SJs forwards, but I don't like Nashville's either so I guess that's a wash. Vegas... I'm not sold on Vegas but we'll see.

I think the West is pretty weak, so they certainly can make a run, though. I'm curious as to how they figure out using Karlsson though...
 
You know how bad things have to get for Oilers fans to feel legit sorry for Sens fans? This bad.

Wonder if Yzerman bailed because Bolts owner wouldn’t let him beat this garbage return. Lol
 
They won’t get much of a return. Rentals are worth nothing anymore in the NHL and MLB. I don’t think Karlsson signs there if his primary goal is winning a cup

I think it's possible he gets a 1st + Tierney-like back, then it all depends of the prospects involved.
 
Does it? I still see Winnipeg as the best of that group. I don't like SJs forwards, but I don't like Nashville's either so I guess that's a wash. Vegas... I'm not sold on Vegas but we'll see.

I think the West is pretty weak, so they certainly can make a run, though. I'm curious as to how they figure out using Karlsson though...

I still think Winnipeg/Nashville are ahead of the pack. I genuinely wouldn't be shocked for any of those four teams to come out of the West though.

We seen Speed can be used to exploit the Jets last Season, albeit I'm not sure the Sharks are loaded with much of that.
 
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