henchman21
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- Feb 24, 2012
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It’s pretty common in the NFL to force contract changes. Paton sucks, but that’s just normal business in the NFL.
Has to be. I can’t think of anything that even comes close off the top of my head. I mean realistically its up there for worst trades in the history of the sport.
f*** Russ. He can go cry in his personal office and shoot more videos while endorsing his wife's clothesline.Feel bad for Russ
Please explain. The guy conned his way into a shit load of cash, and stopped giving a shit about football. And now will retire comfortably and move to LA so he can live his Hollywood dreams.Feel bad for Russ
I don’t—-he’s walking away with a shit-ton of money to add to his already huge pile of money and he gets to come home to a hot as hell pop star wife every night.Feel bad for Russ
He played much better this season….Please explain. The guy conned his way into a shit load of cash, and stopped giving a shit about football. And now will retire comfortably and move to LA so he can live his Hollywood dreams.
The guy has done absolutely nothing for the Broncos except set it back for another 5 years. Nothing irks me more than players who get paid and then quit trying. It's f***ing pathetic. And this is what Russ did.
He had an average QBR of 38 thru the last four games and is 11-19 as a Bronco. They gave him top-tier money and in return he revealed himself as the fraud he is. Sean Peyton saw through the facade on day 1.He played much better this season….
And telling a person you are gonna be let go but still go lead the team is a shit move.
Here’s the thing… Russ just wants to be a pocket passer. It was the source of his feud with Carroll.Russ is perfectly capable of being a starting QB in the NFL still. He’s just doesn’t fit into what Payton wants to do and he’s too old school to change it up. It’s his way or no way. He wants a pocket passer who makes passes on time. Russ has never been that guy even in his prime.
He's really didn't. He is the worst starting QB in the league quarters 1-3 and pulls it together for the 4th. Not exactly good, when 3/4ths of the game you are shit.He played much better this season….
And telling a person you are gonna be let go but still go lead the team is a shit move.
I disagree. He's a average backup at this point. Unless he wants rededicate himself to football as the top priority. Which I doubt he does.Russ is perfectly capable of being a starting QB in the NFL still. He’s just doesn’t fit into what Payton wants to do and he’s too old school to change it up. It’s his way or no way. He wants a pocket passer who makes passes on time. Russ has never been that guy even in his prime.
This 100%. Payton saw through the BS day 1. Russ is a used car salesman, who talks a big game but doesn't deliver much. I honestly view letting Russ play until now a professional courtesy from Payton as to not completely embarrass a long time professional in Russ. Had it not been Russ, I think he'd been benched by like week 4 or 5.He had an average QBR of 38 thru the last four games and is 11-19 as a Bronco. They gave him top-tier money and in return he revealed himself as the fraud he is. Sean Peyton saw through the facade on day 1.
I was honestly super worried when we came out of last offseason and not really much had changed at all. I don’t think Payton was given much of a chance to shape this roster how he wants it and I sensed frustration from him about it during camp and the draft. I wouldn’t be shocked at this point if they approached Payton to see if he was willing to continue to work with Paton. I seriously hope they clean house this year - can Wilson, get rid of Jeudy, probably trade Simmons (will suck but he needs to go to a winner before age sets in).Says a lot about the Broncos and the players they've drafted and signed when they had to dumb down both the offense and defense just to make it work. I expect lots of changes this offseason.
And he can’t be a pocket passer. He can’t make the reads. He’s not big enough. He doesn’t have the vision or the accuracy. But for some reason he seems to think he can do it.Here’s the thing… Russ just wants to be a pocket passer. It was the source of his feud with Carroll.
I don't blame him... I would take my shot at dating Margot Robbie even though I don't have the looks, money, classes, status, etc to have a shot. But get me in a room and I'd take my best shot.And he can’t be a pocket passer. He can’t make the reads. He’s not big enough. He doesn’t have the vision or the accuracy. But for some reason he seems to think he can do it.
The fact that the 2024 base salary is already fully guaranteed puts leverage back to the player. It is different if we are talking a non-guaranteed base salary of $39 mill that you are trying to knock down to say $25 million. Then the player has to evaluate what their value is on the open market and whether they feel comfortable getting more than what the team is offering and how they would fair in a new system or their ability to land a job with another team that operates the same system that they are currently in. Also, ego, some will leave to get basically the same or less elsewhere just because they don't want to let the team cut their pay.It’s pretty common in the NFL to force contract changes. Paton sucks, but that’s just normal business in the NFL.
Russ, Cam, Wentz, and likely Tanny, Jimmy G are not likely to sign as a backup. Even Baker would not have signed to backup to Trask. He was given the opportunity to compete with him and he won the job. Nothing less than the opportunity to win the starting job would get these guys to sign with another team vs go in as the designated backup.I disagree. He's a average backup at this point. Unless he wants rededicate himself to football as the top priority. Which I doubt he does.
No team will take him as the starter, in his current state. Why would they deal with the headache of a guy who really isn't dedicated to football anymore? Any team looking for a QB is better off giving a guy like Stidham who's worked hard for a chance or draft and develop a guy.
I see Russ, if he wants to keep playing, going the Flacco route bouncing around getting spot starts here and there.
Probably won't accept a backup role, but then I guess his option will most likely be sit out and hope like Newton. Honestly Cam is probably the best comp for where Russ is headed.Russ, Cam, Wentz, and likely Tanny, Jimmy G are not likely to sign as a backup. Even Baker would not have signed to backup to Trask. He was given the opportunity to compete with him and he won the job. Nothing less than the opportunity to win the starting job would get these guys to sign with another team vs go in as the designated backup.
Agree with this all about Russ. He and his agent did exactly what you'd expect them to do.In my uneducated NFL opinion, Wilson isn't a fraud. He did what every pro athlete would do and maximized his bag. This is a failure on the Broncos organization not realizing he was cooked and/or not a good fit. Fair play to Russell for convincing the broncos to sign him, extend him, and give him a contract with that injury clause. Broncos f***ed up those negotiations and gave him whatever he wanted.