OT: OT thread number 11 | No More Bad News PLEASE!

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Ritchie Valens

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This Kanye gif perfectly sums Will up to the moment he saw his wife's unpleasantness.

Also, I don't know what's worse that Will Smith showed more aggression with a slap than the entire Oilers team did towards Calgary Saturday night.
 
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Drivesaitl

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There are so many assholes out there that can get away with so much shit because the laws protect them that it is beyond ridiculous. IMO we could use a little more of assholes getting their asses stomped (within reason).
Maybe all the fans that have been made jokes of should go up to hollywood and bitch slap all these clowns. A good starting place for a number of reasons. (I'm joking)

But many of the people you would find there are self centered egomaniacs that think nothing of flying their lear jet while lecturing us about global warming and any other soup du jour cause they know nothing about.

My first question would be why anybody watches this tripe. My next would be why anybody would defend either from criticism.

But to walk right up to somebody on stage, unsuspecting, and cold cock him like that. Thats on Will Smith. This is not a place where violence would be expected on the stage. If its a boxing ring, hockey rink, etc then to be expected that something might occur.

I will downplay this as well. We're talking about Alopecia as an issue. A disease that simply results in the falling out of hair. It isn't life threatening, it isn't debilitating, it isn't a stigma, its isn't at all insurmountable. My first girl friend had it, I didn't know till I was dating her that she'd been wearing a wig. She's a self assured professional now. It didn't bother her deeply, she joked about it, and was confident and not adversely impacted. If somebody tried to make it some kind of big deal she would stop them and say it isn't any serious ailment, it isn't cancer, " I'm healthy, blessed, fortunate."

So starting with this "Jada suffers from alopecia" (in the twitter) to even consider it as something that someone has to "suffer" through is misleading. Which seems commonplace in an age where a growing segment of people might want any condition to be self debilitating excuse. Hair is just an evolutionary redundant vestige. It isn't anything, it isn't important. I shave my head bald any chance I get. love not having hair. So that Alopecia could even be considered "lacking something that is nothing". lets stop making it into some major ailment.

Our new friend, Ben Stelter, now he has suffered, he could use support, just to put it into perspective.

anyway..anybody want to punch me in the face after reading this? ;)
 
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He could have killed him with a face slap? LOL. Whoever this Judd guy is he sounds like a complete hysteric.
Good ol' fashioned Tinsletown brawl.:laugh:

I'm sure (the writer) his mama spanked him when he was a kid and he now feels traumatized. Not right to take a swing at someone, but "kill him"? Come one.
 
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Drivesaitl

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Thought this was funny.

"The fact that everyone was hugging and "consoling" Smith after he assaulted someone on live TV says so much about what Hollywood is really like off camera."

Its laughable that Smith is getting props for this, and Chris Rock getting scorn. Its hard to understand decorum in present day.

Its also interesting that the twitterverse are attacking people commenting on the slap rather than focusing on the action itself. Which is pretty typical of what a noisebox twitter is. If there was an invention of a magic device to make people so quickly fly off what the issue actually is, it would be twitter. Pretty soon JK Rowling will be at fault. For everything and Covid 19 too.

Twitter: Its a witch, its a witch...all day long, any theme, topic, or issue.

Theres a war going on but the media and everybody will spend the next weeks talking about Will Smith and buying up his next autobiography.
 

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Thought this was funny.

"The fact that everyone was hugging and "consoling" Smith after he assaulted someone on live TV says so much about what Hollywood is really like off camera."

Its laughable that Smith is getting props for this, and Chris Rock getting scorn. Its hard to understand decorum in present day.

Its also interesting that the twitterverse are attacking people commenting on the slap rather than focusing on the action itself. Which is pretty typical of what a noisebox twitter is. If there was an invention of a magic device to make people so quickly fly off what the issue actually is, it would be twitter. Pretty soon JK Rowling will be at fault. For everything and Covid 19 too.

Twitter: Its a witch, its a witch...all day long, any theme, topic, or issue.

Theres a war going on but the media and everybody will spend the next weeks talking about Will Smith and buying up his next autobiography.
As Chris Rock proclaimed “I made a GI Jane joke!”
Smith will be forever a cuck in my eyes. First the son’s rapper friend banging his wife and him begging for forgiveness, and now this.
Chris Rock will be telling jokes about this in his stand up for a long time
 

Drivesaitl

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As Chris Rock proclaimed “I made a GI Jane joke!”
Smith will be forever a cuck in my eyes. First the son’s rapper friend banging his wife and him begging for forgiveness, and now this.
Chris Rock will be telling jokes about this in his stand up for a long time
TBH I don't know about any of this and wouldn't know about the latest, last night, except for people talking about it and it somehow appearing on "news" feeds.

All I'm reminded of with stuff like this is that "Hell is other people" ;)

Probably why I will never sign up for Twitter.

ps you hockey fan people are OK. Well, about as OK as I am..hehe
 

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As Chris Rock proclaimed “I made a GI Jane joke!”
Smith will be forever a cuck in my eyes. First the son’s rapper friend banging his wife and him begging for forgiveness, and now this.
Chris Rock will be telling jokes about this in his stand up for a long time
The late shows will have some fun with this too I suspect
 
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I agree with your basic premise but…..You do know they fight in hockey right?

Also See; Russian invasion of Ukraine, subheading - unlimited indiscriminate use of thermobaric, cluster and thermite artillery and aerial bombs on civilian targets including but not limited to double tapping hospitals, schools, humanitarian convoys, maternity wards, and theatres used as bomb shelters which are clearly marked children in massive capital letters.

I have zero faith in Human society as a whole to do the right thing in 99% of most cases.

Don’t feel sorry for Chris Rock. He crossed a line and got what was coming to him. If he wants to press assault charges he can. There are an awful lot of witnesses.

I think a bit of what I said earlier was lost.

The biggest problem I had with this is the way he dealt with the situation in the moment.

In general, physical altercations should be the last thing you do. However if you’re gonna do it, do it right. If Will thought that the only proper response to this whole situation was to hit the guy, wait until after the damn ceremony and challenge him to a fight. Sucker slapping (I guess that’s the term?) him while he’s technically working is a ridiculous thing to do. He’s not gonna be able to defend himself in that situation. That’s why Will Smith is a little bitch for doing this.
 
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Don't know about that, I have seen loads of people taking and giving slaps to the face and no cops or cuffs in sight. Heck, I have taken a couple myself.

In any case, it is kind of hard to picture the situation in which any other than a celebrity would have someone else making jokes about his wife's looks (due to a disease no less) in front of them and a room full of people. And I am hard pressed to think of anyone who would be ok with that. The difference comes from that it is celebrities and the Oscar's, where they should just keep laughing at jokes made on theirs and others behalf. You could even see if just before, when he kept on laughing, they are so used to it that they hardly even listen, just keep smiling, once it sunk in though he reacted.

I am also completely ok with if Rock press assault charges (doubt it though), it is his right and he was assaulted. But he also made a completely inappropriate joke about the looks of a woman, which in any situation should be unacceptable, in front of her husband, the room and audience. In no way do I feel sorry for what happened to him.

See my reply to @5 Mins 4 Ftg

If you wanna fight the guy, fight him. But don’t walk up while he’s working and hit him in a situation where he can’t defend himself.

Also, if you’re a man, why are you slapping another man?!? At least have the balls to punch him.
 

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See my reply to @5 Mins 4 Ftg

If you wanna fight the guy, fight him. But don’t walk up while he’s working and hit him in a situation where he can’t defend himself.

Also, if you’re a man, why are you slapping another man?!? At least have the balls to punch him.

That seems rather sexist..........I think I might report this as I am highly offended. :nod:
 

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Maybe all the fans that have been made jokes of should go up to hollywood and bitch slap all these clowns. A good starting place for a number of reasons. (I'm joking)

But many of the people you would find there are self centered egomaniacs that think nothing of flying their lear jet while lecturing us about global warming and any other soup du jour cause they know nothing about.

My first question would be why anybody watches this tripe. My next would be why anybody would defend either from criticism.

But to walk right up to somebody on stage, unsuspecting, and cold cock him like that. Thats on Will Smith. This is not a place where violence would be expected on the stage. If its a boxing ring, hockey rink, etc then to be expected that something might occur.

I will downplay this as well. We're talking about Alopecia as an issue. A disease that simply results in the falling out of hair. It isn't life threatening, it isn't debilitating, it isn't a stigma, its isn't at all insurmountable. My first girl friend had it, I didn't know till I was dating her that she'd been wearing a wig. She's a self assured professional now. It didn't bother her deeply, she joked about it, and was confident and not adversely impacted. If somebody tried to make it some kind of big deal she would stop them and say it isn't any serious ailment, it isn't cancer, " I'm healthy, blessed, fortunate."

So starting with this "Jada suffers from alopecia" (in the twitter) to even consider it as something that someone has to "suffer" through is misleading. Which seems commonplace in an age where a growing segment of people might want any condition to be self debilitating excuse. Hair is just an evolutionary redundant vestige. It isn't anything, it isn't important. I shave my head bald any chance I get. love not having hair. So that Alopecia could even be considered "lacking something that is nothing". lets stop making it into some major ailment.

Our new friend, Ben Stelter, now he has suffered, he could use support, just to put it into perspective.

anyway..anybody want to punch me in the face after reading this? ;)
This is as close to a perfect analysis as you can get.

Depending on what clip you saw, Will Smith was screaming at him after he sat down, something like “my wife’s name does not leave your f’n mouth”, repeating it a couple times. Like seriously, why would someone sit front row at an Awards show hosted by a comedian who made a career out of making fun of people, and suddenly be surprised when they’re targeted. Super bizarre. You’re sensitive about your condition and appearance, but have no problem stopping every 3 seconds on your walk down the red carpet to be photographed 100 times, only to proceed to sit front row in at theatre seating 10,000+ people and hundreds of cameras televising live worldwide.

“Gee, I hope no one notices I have no hair.”

But then Chris Rock has to go unearth what would have otherwise gone under the radar, Jada’s bald ass scalp with some crayon comb over.
 
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See my reply to @5 Mins 4 Ftg

If you wanna fight the guy, fight him. But don’t walk up while he’s working and hit him in a situation where he can’t defend himself.

Also, if you’re a man, why are you slapping another man?!? At least have the balls to punch him.
Chris Rock shouldn't be making a joke of another person's health condition if hes gonna be unable to defend himself.
 

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Maybe all the fans that have been made jokes of should go up to hollywood and bitch slap all these clowns. A good starting place for a number of reasons. (I'm joking)

But many of the people you would find there are self centered egomaniacs that think nothing of flying their lear jet while lecturing us about global warming and any other soup du jour cause they know nothing about.

My first question would be why anybody watches this tripe. My next would be why anybody would defend either from criticism.

But to walk right up to somebody on stage, unsuspecting, and cold cock him like that. Thats on Will Smith. This is not a place where violence would be expected on the stage. If its a boxing ring, hockey rink, etc then to be expected that something might occur.

I will downplay this as well. We're talking about Alopecia as an issue. A disease that simply results in the falling out of hair. It isn't life threatening, it isn't debilitating, it isn't a stigma, its isn't at all insurmountable. My first girl friend had it, I didn't know till I was dating her that she'd been wearing a wig. She's a self assured professional now. It didn't bother her deeply, she joked about it, and was confident and not adversely impacted. If somebody tried to make it some kind of big deal she would stop them and say it isn't any serious ailment, it isn't cancer, " I'm healthy, blessed, fortunate."

So starting with this "Jada suffers from alopecia" (in the twitter) to even consider it as something that someone has to "suffer" through is misleading. Which seems commonplace in an age where a growing segment of people might want any condition to be self debilitating excuse. Hair is just an evolutionary redundant vestige. It isn't anything, it isn't important. I shave my head bald any chance I get. love not having hair. So that Alopecia could even be considered "lacking something that is nothing". lets stop making it into some major ailment.

Our new friend, Ben Stelter, now he has suffered, he could use support, just to put it into perspective.

anyway..anybody want to punch me in the face after reading this? ;)
A close family member of mine has it, and she is also very relaxed about it now. However, she suffered very much in the beginning, both from what caused it (trauma) and from not knowing what was going on. It was very tough as a teenager and took years to get to the state you are talking about. Even now, she would say that she is allowed to make fun of it, so laugh with me, but don't laugh at me, so big no to others thinking it is ok making fun of her looks. I think you are taking the opposite pole of the crazy twitter folks on this one, while it is probably much more in the middle (also depending on the person). Life threatening, debilitating, you are of course right on that. Stigma, there I think you are off. Insurmountable, depends on what you mean by that, you can sourmount it by acceptning it and learning to live with it as the people you and I know. But the hair is not coming back, my family member will live her life bald or with a wig (normally puts in on when she gets tired of always getting asked about it), and with painted eyebrows.

In any case, I don't even think it is about the condition itself, it is just stupid to make jokes about or commenting on women's looks. Disregarding the condition, if she had put on weight and he'd do one about her being fat, I could see that provoking the same reaction. The reaction would still be wrong, and the joke would still be stupid. Will Smith is of course in the wrong, and he has (and probably will again) apologize for this. Chris Rock made a stupid joke.
 
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Chris Rock made a stupid joke
It’s a stupid joke … made in a room full of some of the most stupid, vapid, self centered people on the planet. But honestly, it really wasn’t much on the scale of insults. We’ve all seen much worse at shows like this. Ricky Gervais anyone? We’ve also seen people a lot more important than Will Smith ( like presidents Obama and Trump to name a couple) sit there and take worse shots than ‘looking forward to seeing you in GI Jane’. It’s pretty tame tbh.

My take is right in line with what @Drivesaitl and @Roof Daddy posted up line. Smith crossed the line, not Rock. You have a problem with what he said? Great. Take it up with him after the show. Make him write a little apology on twitter or something. Don’t storm the stage, slap someone and then scream profanities on live TV. Smith made a complete ass of himself. Chris Rock handled the tantrum about as well as he could have. Good for him.
 
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