OT: OT: Lets Go Cardinals! (All Baseball Talk Here) Part 2

[BrokenFace]

We spent the 4th most in terms of salary on our rotation in all of baseball. Clearly spending money isn't an issue, it's how we spend it. I do agree that full rebuilds usually never work. The biggest thing is change how the Cardinals approach the game fundamentally and developmentally if we look to compete in the future

I didn't realize that about our pitching. I didn't say it, but I completely agree that our approach to development and needs to change drastically; that goes for roster construction too. With all the other obvious issues, I just don't want the fact that ownership is spending like a middling team to be overshadowed as a major issue.

 

[TheDizee]

its pretty obvious to me that the team has quit on Marmol as well. One thing to be in over your head as a manager but a whole other thing when the team quits on you as well. A 1-5 homestand following a 1-5 road trip.

They will be 20-25 games under by the ASG.

 

[Bobby Orrtuzzo]

 

[WeWantTacos]

The players have enough sense and decency to not publicly badmouth Marmol, too bad Oli didn't have that same awareness when he threw his own players under the bus.

 

[PJJJP]

I don't have much faith in Oli but man do the Cardinals have no leaders in the lockeroom it seems like. Also a lot of the players just suck right now. I wish we could go back and not sign Contreras to that deal

 

[Bobby Orrtuzzo]

I don't have much faith in Oli but man do the Cardinals have no leaders in the lockeroom it seems like. Also a lot of the players just suck right now. I wish we could go back and not sign Contreras to that deal

At this point I’m willing to write off this year. New city, new organization, team sucks. Next year if it’s like this though…

 

[TheDizee]

gotta love the post dispatch puff piece "journalists" running cover for these bums by having NY Mets are actually worse articles 24/7.

 

[joe galiba]

The real problem is the bullpen , we already have 15 blown saves out of 30 chances, last year we had only 17 blown saves all year
the major league average save percentage over the last 10 years is 66%, so if the bullpen was even average we would be 5 games better, if it was good we could be 10 games better

 

[Mike Liut]

keep losing and hopefully we are sellers and Mo is canned.

 

[TheDizee]

keep losing and hopefully we are sellers and Mo is canned.

not sure about the Mo part. hes like a cockroach.

 

[Mike Liut]

I know this isn’t a popular idea because I’ve said it before. I’d trade Goldie and Arenado and start a complete rebuild. And also trade soon to be UFA’s Flaherty and Montgomery. Imagine the haul we’d get in return. We’d be picking top 5 the next 2 years. Our system would be loaded and we’d have lots of salary room too.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Yep, we need to sell of pieces and build a new core. Hopefully Gorman regains his form, otherwise this team really is complete garbage.

 

[TheDizee]

 

[Mike Liut]

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how does Mo still have a job?

 

[Bobby Orrtuzzo]

 

[ScratchCatFever]

Oh, good. That'll save us.

 

[Mike Liut]

Considering age, years of team control, salary etc, im not sure I’d trade Walker for anybody in baseball right now

 

[Allens Five Hole]

Considering age, years of team control, salary etc, im not sure I’d trade Walker for anybody in baseball right now

I'd 100% take Acuna for Walker with no hesitation.

Speaking of, that type of contract needs to be offered to Walker if ASAP.

 

[Mike Liut]

I'd 100% take Acuna for Walker with no hesitation.

Speaking of, that type of contract needs to be offered to Walker if ASAP.

Good point

 

[Linkens Mastery]

I do thank the Cards for playing a completely terrible season. Such an easy time to save money instead of going to games.

 

[Mike Liut]

That’s a good way to boost your trade value Jack. Ughhh

 

[PJJJP]

Gorman looks lost now

 

[Mike Liut]

This team is terrible. They’d be idiots for not trading Goldy

 

[BrokenFace]

Giving up 5 runs before getting a hit in the London series is almost predictable at this point. I expect this team to roll over at least one game every series.

 

[TheDizee]

lolol