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OT: OT: Lets Go Cardinals! (All Baseball Talk Here) Part 2
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Cardinals send Walker down and bring Motter back up. Motter brings nothing to this team.
joe galiba
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he brings a player that sits on the bench and does nothing unless there is an emergency or blow out
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Don't worry, Paul DeJong will get those ABs now. They will move donovan to RF so Paul can get fed so many deserved ABs
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Cards are going to need like a ten game winning streak to get back in the race, but they don’t have the pitching to ever pull that off. Someone is always going to get lit up in their turn of the rotation, which will decimate the(already struggling) bullpen and cause further problems. Unless the rest of the Central goes into a major tailspin, the Cards are getting closer and closer to being done.
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Is there a baseball equivalent to Bedard this year?Is it too early to fire up the tank for an early draft pick next year?
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We have the 5th worst record in baseball...
SP is important. We are 6th in OPS and 26th in WHIP. I'm sure we can find more stats that show we aren't as good offensively and aren't as bad pitching, but in general, we can get on base and hit with decent power, and our pitchers let way too many on base. Just simple numbers at a certain point.
SP is important. We are 6th in OPS and 26th in WHIP. I'm sure we can find more stats that show we aren't as good offensively and aren't as bad pitching, but in general, we can get on base and hit with decent power, and our pitchers let way too many on base. Just simple numbers at a certain point.
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Pitching is the main reason we are so bad but this team also tends to take putrid ABs with RISP. Even Goldy and Arenado do it.
Edmonds ripped Hicks a few weeks ago when he kept throwing the same pitch over and over before giving up a bomb (I think it was to Pittsburgh) and they did the same exact thing vs SF the other night with the closer. I think Contreras is actually worse than advertised in every phase of the game including pitch calling.
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That's why his job is safe imo. He's to the Cardinals what Bettman is to the NHL owners. The NHL owners push for lockouts and other unpopular agendas, and Bettman serves as the public face of that effort and takes a big portion of the criticism. The DeWitts spend like a middling team and Mo has to make the best of it, including taking the criticism when we get middling results. Mo has been good at punching above his payroll before this year and at taking the heat when things don't go right, so I don't think the DeWitts are looking to replace him. Mo has made mistakes, but I don't think any GM/president would contend with this payroll.
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We are now a full five turns through the rotation and we have four quality starts. Jordan Montgomery has three of them. The only teams with less are Detroit and Oakland.
I'm beginning to wonder if all the rule changes kinda messed with the front office's, "formula," for lack of a better word. We used to play good, clean baseball. Now it seems like we are floundering. I wonder how much of that is due to things like the pitch-clock, banning the shift, and the more balanced scheduling. It was a lot of change in a very short time and I don't think the front office can use the same type of projections they've used in years past - when we were already basically trying to tread water to lock up a wild-card.
Either way, it's been awful. We're basically already pretty boned to make the playoffs this year unless we go on a massive winning streak at some point during the season. Double-digit plus winning streak. That's pretty tough to accomplish in most sports and baseball is no exception.
Hopefully the failure brings about some necessary change to the organization, it feels like we're stale compared to a lot of the other, better teams out there.
I'm beginning to wonder if all the rule changes kinda messed with the front office's, "formula," for lack of a better word. We used to play good, clean baseball. Now it seems like we are floundering. I wonder how much of that is due to things like the pitch-clock, banning the shift, and the more balanced scheduling. It was a lot of change in a very short time and I don't think the front office can use the same type of projections they've used in years past - when we were already basically trying to tread water to lock up a wild-card.
Either way, it's been awful. We're basically already pretty boned to make the playoffs this year unless we go on a massive winning streak at some point during the season. Double-digit plus winning streak. That's pretty tough to accomplish in most sports and baseball is no exception.
Hopefully the failure brings about some necessary change to the organization, it feels like we're stale compared to a lot of the other, better teams out there.
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our outfield D has been terrible, Burleson is bad and Walker has a looong way to go to get even OK
then you take a great defensive LF and play him in center, where you can see that he isn't comfortable and you jerk him in and out of the lineup so he doesn't even have a chance of getting comfortable
combine it with a starting pitching staff that allows a lot of contact, on purpose
now the errors and the balls that aren't caught because the players are not good enough cause the pitchers to make more mistakes as they a) have to make more pitches under stress and b) try and make perfect pitches which leads to more bad pitches
then our good infield D starts making mistakes because bad D is contagious and gets into everybody's head
I don't think it's as doom and gloom as a lot of folks in here are claiming in terms of climbing back into this race. We don't need a double digit win streak, although that would certainly help. We just need to win series. If we play at a .570 clip the rest of the year, we're closing in on 90 wins which is what I think it will take to win the Central.
The Central is not good. I don't care what the standings look like right now, the Pirates are still a bad baseball team and I expect regression to the mean sooner than later.
The Central is not good. I don't care what the standings look like right now, the Pirates are still a bad baseball team and I expect regression to the mean sooner than later.
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Come on now, we are 6.5 games behind the Brewers, there is only 5 months left in the season, I am pretty certain it is virtually impossible to overcome a deficit that large, I don't think it has ever been done before
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I don't necessarily disagree with any of this. But coping with mediocrity out of the gate, then scrambling to get the pieces of the puzzle in the right places seems to have become the standard, over the last 3 seasons, specifically. At what point does barely treading water for the first 4 months of the season, then hoping to catch fire after the all star break become a botched recipe for a sustainable winning formula? I don't think anyone had expectations of a start like the Rays have had, but to be 30 days in and still showing no signs of any level on consistency anywhere on the diamond is a bit concerning.
Oh I agree 100% that this is not an acceptable way to continue on. I've been fairly vocal about my issues with this Cardinal team but they are still better than the rest of the Central. If, come July, we are still 6-7 games back and showing no signs of consistency, then I will have more concern.
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An honest question but is baseball in general any fun to watch anymore? The pitching is sloppy, so is the hitting. Virtually nothing happens most of the game.
On top of that as a Cardinals fan, we keep throwing out mediocrity and thi year it’s even worse.
On top of that as a Cardinals fan, we keep throwing out mediocrity and thi year it’s even worse.
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I only have fun when the Cards are winning and I'm at a game. Watching on TV does nothing for me.
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