OT: OT: Lets Go Cardinals! (All Baseball Talk Here) Part 2
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Bernie's Redbird Review: In His First Postseason Game As Manager, Oli Marmol Couldn't Handle The Pressure. - Scoops Sports Network
It’s around 11 a.m. on Saturday morning, and I’m still struggling to process Oli Marmol’s thinking during the Cardinals’ devastating Game 1 loss to the Phillies at Busch Stadium. The first-year manager, so smart and cool-headed during the regular season, entered his first postseason and went...
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hopefully if they get bounced today he will be fired
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they said aw-reety an' they was aw-righty
Even Kerber and Vitale were dogging on Marmol during the Blues' broadcast. Oli's going to be a laughingstock if they don't make a comeback in the series.
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A few quotes from Bernie's article:Bernie's Redbird Review: In His First Postseason Game As Manager, Oli Marmol Couldn't Handle The Pressure. - Scoops Sports Network
It’s around 11 a.m. on Saturday morning, and I’m still struggling to process Oli Marmol’s thinking during the Cardinals’ devastating Game 1 loss to the Phillies at Busch Stadium. The first-year manager, so smart and cool-headed during the regular season, entered his first postseason and went...
hopefully if they get bounced today he will be fired
LMFAO
I can't read anymore of Bernie's great, but depressing, article. That man is fired up about this meltdown.
If Marmol froze during the postseason, then he is not the Manager I want.
Matheny, Schildt, Marmol....ffs
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Freezing under the bright lights is a quick way to lose well-earned credibilty and culture-building.
Just as Marmol should have adjusted his focus and made some changes, the FO must do the same and not watch another debacle like this.
2nd chance? Maybe, but I have absolutely zero patience for those who freeze up in big moments.
That is a major red flag.
Thanks for the excerpts from Bernie's article. He's 100% correct.
If Marmol leaves Quintana in for the third time through that lineup and those hitters hit like they usually do the third time they see a pitcher in a game, then Bernie would be writing about how Oli was another Matheny and Shildt leaving the starter in too long and questioning why Oli didn't follow the analytics like we hired him to after firing the baseball tradition guys.
Sure, it was a mistake to keep Helsey in that long, but after a bloop single and a 1-2 count on Harper, no other manager in baseball is getting someone up in their bullpen, even in the playoffs. Maybe they should be, but that hardly means they should fire Oli. And it's also on Helsey, who didn't indicate there was an issue to anyone. It's on Molina for not stepping in. It's on the pitching coach for not managing his pitchers.
And even if Oli pulls Helsey one or two batters earlier, we still lose the game if we then get three ground balls to our three gold glove defenders and they fail to record a single out. Oli put in Pallante and set the team up to take advantage of one of their biggest strengths, defense, and the pitcher delivered. The defense didn't. Sometimes even the best players fail at the worst times.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised the Cardinal fan second guessing of the manager is pathological after years of Matheny and Schildt, but come on.
Sure, it was a mistake to keep Helsey in that long, but after a bloop single and a 1-2 count on Harper, no other manager in baseball is getting someone up in their bullpen, even in the playoffs. Maybe they should be, but that hardly means they should fire Oli. And it's also on Helsey, who didn't indicate there was an issue to anyone. It's on Molina for not stepping in. It's on the pitching coach for not managing his pitchers.
And even if Oli pulls Helsey one or two batters earlier, we still lose the game if we then get three ground balls to our three gold glove defenders and they fail to record a single out. Oli put in Pallante and set the team up to take advantage of one of their biggest strengths, defense, and the pitcher delivered. The defense didn't. Sometimes even the best players fail at the worst times.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised the Cardinal fan second guessing of the manager is pathological after years of Matheny and Schildt, but come on.
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Same thing they said about Shidlt and Matheny after their massive postseason chokejobs.
These Mo Yes men are terrible in game managers and the postseason puts it on full display.
I'm not really a baseball fan but even I knew what he did in game 1 was some stupid ass shit. He should be fired.
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Put a fork in em. Goldy watching a fastball down the middle lmao now a homer by Harper.
Marmol should be fired by noon tomorrow but he's a yes man so he's safe for another year or two. 3.3 million sheep say it's ok since they tried their best
Marmol should be fired by noon tomorrow but he's a yes man so he's safe for another year or two. 3.3 million sheep say it's ok since they tried their best
Daley Tarasenkshow
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Because of 1 game? That’s literally insane. You don’t get fired from a managers position for mis-calling 1 game. They haven’t even been eliminated yet.
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By this logic the Blues should fire Berube because they didn’t win the cup last year. You understand only 1 team wins a ring per season right? You don’t fire someone off a 93 win year in his first year managing because he didn’t win a ring.
This is the epitome of cardinals fans and their completely unrealistic and borderline insane expectations.
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Only thing berube did that was awful last year was starting husso over Chucky sideburns after kadri ran binner. Not even close or in same league as Marmol's little league managing last night that cost them a playoff win and now a early off-season
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When it's so bad that even a non baseball fan can see the ignorance of it then why is a "baseball" guy being paid to do such a shit job?
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If you’re not a baseball fan than why are you in this thread? I’m honestly curious.
Saying that Marmol has done a “shit job” is absolutely ridiculous all things considered. I don’t considering myself a massive Marmol fan but I respect what he’s done this year. There’s a reason Pujols has specifically mentioned him multiple times for playing a role in the success he’s had. Some Cardinals “fans” are unrealistic and maybe borderline crazy.
Why is a baseball post on the hockey forum? It's a St.Louis team and I support and hope for the success of St.Louis teams.
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tonight???
this is how they've been since September rolled in. Nobody has hit outside of Albert. His chase for 700 masked VERY subpar baseball.
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