Ontario Reign 22-23 thread. Nothin' lasts forever, even cold November Reign

[Fishhead]

Yea I wasnt thinking this season. More asking if he had a chance to make it out of camp next season if Byfield moves back to center.
Kopitar and Kempe can create space on the ice for a good goal scorer if he can find soft areas.

Maybe, but if he does it will be at the expense of JAD or Kupari. He's not beating out Moore, Iafallo, RV, Kempe, Vilardi, or Arty. And that's with Byfield moving to center. A more realistic timeline would be the season after, I doubt RV is retained. Someone will have to move up opening some slots. If he keeps showing well he will get a shot. Injuries always make spots available, so stints on the big club here and there would be likely anyways.

 

[Steve Zissou]

Don't touch him you might get BURNED! ...Marty on fire!

 

[ru4reals]

Turcs with a beauty of a pass. Hoping he gets a chance to do a lot of this for the Yotes.

 

[mysterman2]

tonights game almost carbon copy of fridays game...another Chromiak goal and Fagemo with the SO game winner. Funny he got Star 1...shootout game winners are applicable to 3 stars i guess.

 

[Steve Zissou]

Camera time with Matty V!

 

[Surf Nutz]

Moverare!!
developing
Kings 7d next year.
To what extent we will see.
Thats why Blake called up Bisson.
Dont wanna risk Moverare on waivers.

Woulds been nice for CP to get one of those two early against.
Helinius, is that his 1st goal, I think.

Moverare!!
developing
Kings 7d next year.
To what extent we will see.
Thats why Blake called up Bisson.
Dont wanna risk Moverare on waivers.

 

[kinghock]

Turcs with a beauty of a pass. Hoping he gets a chance to do a lot of this for the Yotes.

Does anybody know if Turcotte was injured again yesterday?



JD Young on Twitter: "Ozzy Wiesblatt introduces himself to Alex Turcotte https://t.co/zVOQY0QUuf" / Twitter

 

[mysterman2]

Does anybody know if Turcotte was injured again yesterday?



JD Young on Twitter: "Ozzy Wiesblatt introduces himself to Alex Turcotte https://t.co/zVOQY0QUuf" / Twitter

He took a big hit and went to the bench...dont think I saw him on the ice afterwards. Not good.

 

[psych3man]

He took a big hit and went to the bench...dont think I saw him on the ice afterwards. Not good.

Holy cow! This is unbelievable!!

 

[Fishhead]

Holy cow! This is unbelievable!!

His head did hit the boards but his shoulder was at an awkward angle as well, could be either.

Turcotte still hasn't learned that trying to do too much puts you in a bad spot. He should be chipping the puck out there and not trying to drive around a guy in his own zone. Yeah, if he can get outside he can break a guy out of the zone with better speed, but that is almost never available in the NHL.

One he learns to make the safer, smarter NHL play instead of trying to make something fabulous happen at the AHL level, he'll stopped getting creamed all the time. For a guy with such a high hockey IQ his ice awareness leaves much to be desired.

Pros will take a shot to get a puck out if they have to, but 99% of the time they know what to do with it and get rid of it before that happens. It's not that they are afraid of taking hits, it's that it is a more efficient and productive play to keep the puck moving.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I mean part of that is just the function of the AHL too. They need to get him the f*** out of there permanently.

There is no shortage of dudes looking to make a name for themselves by just smoking the few big name prospects around. Every AHL hit that Turcotte has been injured on has been of the variety of one guy engaging with him/tying him up and another guy completely leaving his check/position just to smoke Turcotte. That doesn't happen in the NHL anymore because those players get burnt and benched.

And yes I blame development on this one. No other org is going to leave their top 5 pick in the minors to get 3 concussions because they pulled him from college early and can't find a spot for him on the roster over lesser players.

 

[TruKingFan]

His head did hit the boards but his shoulder was at an awkward angle as well, could be either.

Turcotte still hasn't learned that trying to do too much puts you in a bad spot. He should be chipping the puck out there and not trying to drive around a guy in his own zone. Yeah, if he can get outside he can break a guy out of the zone with better speed, but that is almost never available in the NHL.

One he learns to make the safer, smarter NHL play instead of trying to make something fabulous happen at the AHL level, he'll stopped getting creamed all the time. For a guy with such a high hockey IQ his ice awareness leaves much to be desired.

Pros will take a shot to get a puck out if they have to, but 99% of the time they know what to do with it and get rid of it before that happens. It's not that they are afraid of taking hits, it's that it is a more efficient and productive play to keep the puck moving.

Nah. It’s the organizations fault. /sarc
Apparently just have to put him on the NHL roster regardless and none of this would have happened. Crystal balling is an art form around here.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Nah. It’s the organizations fault. /sarc
Apparently just have to put him on the NHL roster regardless and none of this would have happened. Crystal balling is an art form around here.

Is he likely to get banged up in the NHL or college? Absolutely, it's in his history.

Is he likely to get hit by the fourth player with no future moving laterally across the blueline looking for a headshot in the NHL or college? Not likely.

It's not crystal balling to acknowledge the AHL is a shitshow potpourri and putting a lottery pick there for an extended period of time is a pretty stupid move that only the Kings seem to take to.

 

[Gjwrams]

Alex Turcotte needs to be up playing with the Kings, if they have to move another player out for a spot, so be it, or he needs to be dealt why he has any hockey value left. This is beyond silly at this point. The dude can't play 10 games in a row in the "A" with getting his bell rung.

 

[Fishhead]

Is he likely to get banged up in the NHL or college? Absolutely, it's in his history.

Is he likely to get hit by the fourth player with no future moving laterally across the blueline looking for a headshot in the NHL or college? Not likely.

It's not crystal balling to acknowledge the AHL is a shitshow potpourri and putting a lottery pick there for an extended period of time is a pretty stupid move that only the Kings seem to take to.

Yeah it's both things, I think. Like you said it's almost always a second guy that's creaming him, it's a common theme. Guys don't leave position like that in the NHL.

I'm just perplexed why he keeps putting himself in those spots, especially as a smaller player. Lizzo gets creamed a lot, but he always knows it's coming and understands how to position his body. Turcotte just focuses on the puck too much. If I was him my head would be on a swivel like I was walking my dog in the projects at midnight. He's been in the AHL long enough to know that.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Yeah it's both things, I think. Like you said it's almost always a second guy that's creaming him, it's a common theme. Guys don't leave position like that in the NHL.

I'm just perplexed why he keeps putting himself in those spots, especially as a smaller player. Lizzo gets creamed a lot, but he always knows it's coming and understands how to position his body. Turcotte just focuses on the puck too much. If I was him my head would be on a swivel like I was walking my dog in the projects at midnight. He's been in the AHL long enough to know that.

It's absolutely both, not trying to excuse Turcotte altogether. Weisblatt is basically his size, too.

 

[Docgonzo]

Turcotte at this point looks like his hockey IQ is low or he has tunnel vision because he gets caught so often. Maybe it’s his style of play that causes the opponents to go looking for him, but he seems to be the only Kings prospect/young guy that gets nailed constantly.

I mean Tynan is 5’8” 160 lbs and league mvp, but he seems to avoid this type of damage. So it isn’t just a size issue.

 

[HookKing]

Yeah right, another goon looking to make a name for himself. The guy is a strapping 5'10/183 and a 2020 first rounder. The reality is Alex is still reckless/careless.

 

[Herby]

Nah. It’s the organizations fault. /sarc
Apparently just have to put him on the NHL roster regardless and none of this would have happened. Crystal balling is an art form around here.

Yes, much of the disaster this pick has turned out to be is on the organization.

Just as we can all give them credit with Mikey Anderson for excellent evaluation, development and deployment we can be just as critical in those exact same areas with Turcotte.

We know you are just 100% praise on everything, but what can the Kings be praised for with anything to do with Alex Turcotte?

Has he proven he was he skilled enough to be picked #5 OA?

Was the development choice to put him in the AHL at 19 a wise one?

Has his deployment at the AHL/NHL level been optimal?

Turcotte at this point looks like his hockey IQ is low or he has tunnel vision because he gets caught so often. Maybe it’s his style of play that causes the opponents to go looking for him, but he seems to be the only Kings prospect/young guy that gets nailed constantly.

I mean Tynan is 5’8” 160 lbs and league mvp, but he seems to avoid this type of damage. So it isn’t just a size issue.

There is very little IQ, at least in the offensive zone. Turcotte is all about constant 100% energy and an elite non-stop motor all over the ice. That is how he plays, and he can’t really change that at this point, he’s never going to be a Jordan Spence thinking player who gets by with game sense, it’s just not who he is.

I feel like the Kings are still waiting for some kind of offensive game to materialize in the AHL to warrant the draft capital when they should just accept that his future in the league is as a bottom-six energy player in the NHL and let him adjust that role in the NHL right now. And if they don’t feel like moving pieces like Iafallo to make that happen, then they should cash out with whatever value they can get to a team that is more open to that. Even if it is a Lias type return.

 

[ru4reals]

Not again. Turcotte may have to retire from the game this is not good. Not saying he will or should just saying for the better of his life moving forward. Always been a fan of his, but this is getting scary. Man hope he's okay.

 

[HookKing]

Not again. Turcotte may have to retire from the game this is not good. Not saying he will or should just saying for the better of his life moving forward. Always been a fan of his, but this is getting scary. Man hope he's okay.

I'm feeling optimistic, the fact that the hit took place well past the mid point of the 3rd might just indicate he didn't return due to caution by the coaching staff.

 

[Statto]

I'm feeling optimistic, the fact that the hit took place well past the mid point of the 3rd might just indicate he didn't return due to caution by the coaching staff.

Whilst I’m not confident in what you are saying, you may be right. If they think he received any head contact at all he’d have been put through the concussion protocol and even if he cleared that’s his night over anyway. Hopefully it’s that simple… but I’m not counting on it. It also doesn’t mitigate the concerns with how often he gets nailed.

 

[mysterman2]

Whilst I’m not confident in what you are saying, you may be right. If they think he received any head contact at all he’d have been put through the concussion protocol and even if he cleared that’s his night over anyway. Hopefully it’s that simple… but I’m not counting on it. It also doesn’t mitigate the concerns with how often he gets nailed.

i liked this solely for usage of the word "Whilst"

 

[kings11]

I'm feeling optimistic, the fact that the hit took place well past the mid point of the 3rd might just indicate he didn't return due to caution by the coaching staff.

Just looked at the reply again after the Reign said he’s week to week with a lower body injury and it looks like his left leg took an awkward angle with all his weight.. not much head contact from the hit or the boards, so there’s that good news

 

[RayMartyniukTotems]

Nice to able to watch the Reign play against Coachella Valley!