The Jerk Store
Felix Unger Score'em
We didn’t initiate much in way of physical play either.
GDT: ONCE MORE UNTO THE BREACH, DEAR FRIENDS, ONCE MORE
- Thread starter Surrounded By Ahos
- Start date
- Oct 31, 2007
- 40,664
- 47,315
You wanted the Necas that has been basically invisible since mid-March to get more ice time?
He had 7 goals in the 31 games since Svech went down. He (and Aho, frankly) were non-factors in two of the three series the team played (Necas against NYI and FLA, Aho against Jersey and FLA).
The earlier than expected exit was due to three factors: Bob was superhuman, our remaining legitimate Top 6 forwards weren’t impactful enough, and (surprise, surprise) our PP stunk.
Honestly I didn't expect to make it to the ECF after Svech went down.. Do I like how we went out? no..
Sorry, don’t agree. It looked good on paper but result was dismal.
Nikishin Go Boom
Russian Bulldozer Consultent
- Jul 31, 2017
- 23,708
- 55,334
ElmCityGuy
Registered User
- Apr 20, 2023
- 688
- 2,557
Yea.. before the playoffs started I would have guessed round 2 to the Rangers in 6 games.
Identity404
I'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious
Pacioretty was cheap because of his injury history. I don't think the Borg should be given any kudos for the potential that Patches remained healthy and produced in the top six. He was a gamble that didn't pay off. Even though he had a bit of a freak injury that kept him out, him being healthy most of the season was also unlikely
Sigurd
Slavin, our Lord and Saver (AKA Extra Goalie)
You'd have a good point, except Fast and Martinook just had excellent playoff performances this year for us, and they're hardly the only players to have ever stepped up during the playoffs during a low key season, or in Necas's case late in the season, an inconsistent season.
Also, who is to say Necas wouldn't have generated more offense if he was in the top 6 with better linemates than Staal and one of TT (since you brought up Necas struggling late in the regular season; TT seems VERY relevant unless you think he's been good) or Drury (a kid still trying to break into a bigger role with the organization after being in the AHL)?
Back to Martinook and Fast, they were promoted to the 2nd line for a long time, and did well. They were bumped down to the 4th line after having so much success, but Necas stayed on the 3rd line (iirc, TT was promoted to the 2nd line and that's on top of his recent injury)?
Nope, doesn't make sense to keep Necas on the 3rd line; especially since he's one of the small handful of offensively skilled forwards we have/had left after all of our injuries.
*Edit* I think some folks just don't want to blame Rod for anything. I love the guy too, but he doesn't walk on water. We can complain when warranted.
Last edited:
Gms get fired for making apparently “good” on paper but ultimately poor decisions. Calgary’s GM took a lot of heat this season even though he “won” the off season.
Anton Dubinchuk
aho
Him being healthy "most" of the season was probably a more likely outcome than him missing the entire season.
Also, Pacioretty was cheap because Vegas needed the cap space. His injury history played a part but was not the main driver. In his prior 3 seasons he'd played 39/82, 48/56, and 71/71 games. His 39 game season was because of broken bones, not the type of "recurring" injury that gets you an "injury prone" reputation. The full season Achilles injury was a fluke that had nothing to do with prior injury history.
Last edited:
Nikishin Go Boom
Russian Bulldozer Consultent
- Jul 31, 2017
- 23,708
- 55,334
GMs get fired for making terrible that were terrible when made and continued to be terrible for a long time. Luckily for us, Gardiner has been on LTIR for 2 seasons. That was the only one close to that criteria. Patches deal looked great on paper. The best part is, it doesn’t hurt us. Nor did any of the others being 1 year deals.
Stas’ deal looked good until he fell off a cliff
Kase was the real iffy one. But it only hurt in terms of 1.5 million real dollars. Not much at all
Identity404
I'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious
He barely played in 50% of the games the previous two seasons before we aquire him. Him playing most of the season was always a gamble.
Lempo
Recovering Future Considerations Truther
- Feb 23, 2014
- 27,714
- 86,665
The Patches injury
Nikishin Go Boom
Russian Bulldozer Consultent
- Jul 31, 2017
- 23,708
- 55,334
10M?
It was a risk of him playing a more than 50+ games, not a risk of him playing less than 6.
Boom Boom Apathy
I am the Professor. Deal with it!
- Sep 6, 2006
- 49,331
- 102,079
That's a bit misleading
Regular season:
He played 71/71 3 seasons before (100%)
He played 48/56 2 seasons before (86%)
He played 39/82 1 season before. (48%)
If it was the same injury that caused him to miss time in the prior seasons, then sure, I'd agree with you, but tearing his achilles wasn't related to anything prior to that.
As we've seen with guys like Justin Williams where he had 4 seasons with injuries, guys can get an "injury prone" label and be perfectly healthy the next season.
Anton Dubinchuk
aho
That's just not true. Remember the season before last was a 56 game season. His injuries last season were broken bones, not the type of thing that recurs.
Svechhammer
THIS is hockey?
- Jun 8, 2017
- 25,498
- 92,980
Which, we must reiterate, was that we took Coghlan off their hands, too, in return for absolutely nothing.
Identity404
I'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious
My bad, I forgot about the COVID cup.
Even if we don't label him as injury prone (Vegas still chose him as their cap dump, so I assume they must have had some concerns). I still don't see why we should give credit to the Borg for a paper win during the off-season. It had the potential for being a good move, and didn't pan out. It's a wash.
tarheelhockey
Offside Review Specialist
Sure postseason depresses scoring, but not to the tune of 50%.
We have one more year of Necas on a bargain contract. Next summer he’s going to get paid like a 25 year old 28-goal scorer gets paid. We need to be pretty damn careful with that situation, considering he’s one of the only pure-offense players on the team and he doesn’t produce offense in a physical environment.
Anton Dubinchuk
aho
Because a process-oriented assessment is probably a better indicator of future performance than a results-oriented assessment where we say “Pacioretty got hurt and therefore it wasn’t a smart move and the Borg doesn’t know how to make smart moves.”
hangman005
It's my first day.
Sad to see you jerks out, no one has ever come back from being eliminated but I'm hoping the Canes will be the first 
Hoping you guys comeback and take the next leap next season.
Hoping you guys comeback and take the next leap next season.
Anton Dubinchuk
aho
Sad to see you jerks out, no one has ever come back from being eliminated but I'm hoping the Canes will be the first
Yeah if we find a way to come back and win this series it’ll be the greatest comeback in NHL history for sure.
tarheelhockey
Offside Review Specialist
Never give up.
First thing tomorrow morning, we start digging into potential ineligible players on the Panthers roster. Gonna have to dig deep to win the case for a forfeit, but I think this group is special enough to pull it off.
I had a lot of fun watching this team this year. Painful way to go out. Can’t wait to do it again.
Kyle Broflovski
Registered User
I like the team, Unfortunately Canes lost very closely although it is 0:4. Every Game against florida was tight and Canes never has the luck as Florida always had.
Sorry, the SC Finals are trash this year, Cats vs Knights
Sorry, the SC Finals are trash this year, Cats vs Knights
