Pre-Game Talk: On the road again. @PHI (Monday @5:00PM) @WSH (Thursday @5:00PM) @FLA (Saturday @4:00PM) We got bodies back, is that enough?

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Absolutely and utterly true. Messier is actually the best analyst in hockey, he's just not a good public speaker. Trust me, I very much dislike Messier as a player, most overrated player in hockey history.
What the hell does that even mean? If he can't articulate his way out of a paper bag then how can you even tell he's a good analyst?

Off-topic I know, but is EJ actually all that much worse than Kylington or CDH at this point? Though he and Malinski are both righties, EJ as a stay-at-home Dman with Malinski at PMD can't be any worse than Ludvig, CDH, Kylington or JMFJ and there are some intangibles in the locker room and in mentoring Malinski. Hell, if Landy can't make it back this year, give EJ the 'C' for the end of the season.

I was pretty vocal in favor of letting EJ go when we did. But CMac has done nothing to materially replace Byram and if the Avs are going to head into the playoffs with a subpar 6D, why not make it EJ?
Yes unfortunately he is quite a bit worse. Slow AF at this point and his one saving grace, his puckmoving ability, is all but gone. I'm sure they'll consider bringing him back at the deadline but only as a 7th guy at most, but even then I don't think it'll happen.
 

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What the hell does that even mean? If he can't articulate his way out of a paper bag then how can you even tell he's a good analyst?
You seem like the type of person who would fall for the charming bad boy, just for him to break your heart because he was never in love with you simply because he was a smooth talker. Subban is a smoother talker, but that doesn't mean he's "amazing" at his job. Messier is incoherent for sure, but when he gets his point across, it tends to be quite accurate. Trust me, I was quite surprised because I had a disdain for him concerning hockey before ESPN got the NHL rights.

The only serviceable bloke on Altitude is Mitchell and to a lesser degree Liles. Like JML isn't bad, but he doesn't say the truth as it is. He defended Georgiev more than freakin' Bednar does and that gets a lot of brownie points loss. I can't even stand listening to Rycroft at this point. Yan Stastny seems like a decent person, but he's worse than Messier in articulation. So you have one truly good analyst, and he works there part-time lol, it's awful. Keefe is cannon fodder who can be replaced by Brodie Brazil as far as I am concerned, and he's a huge homer that clouds his judgement. Plus, he wears a suit with jeans. Awful stuff.
 
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You seem like the type of person who would fall for the charming bad boy, just for him to break your heart because he was never in love with you simply because he was a smooth talker. Subban is a smoother talker, but that doesn't mean he's "amazing" at his job. Messier is incoherent for sure, but when he gets his point across, it tends to be quite accurate. Trust me, I was quite surprised because I had a disdain for him concerning hockey before ESPN got the NHL rights.

The only serviceable bloke on Altitude is Mitchell and to a lesser degree Liles. Like JML isn't bad, but he doesn't say the truth as it is. He defended Georgiev more than freakin' Bednar does and that gets a lot of brownie points loss. I can't even stand listening to Rycroft at this point. Yan Stastny seems like a decent person, but he's worse than Messier in articulation. So you have one truly good analyst, and he works there part-time lol, it's awful. Keefe is cannon fodder who can be replaced by Brodie Brazil as far as I am concerned, and he's a huge homer that clouds his judgement. Plus, he wears a suit with jeans. Awful stuff.
You're getting more incoherent than usual, are you switching from wannabe Londoner to wannabe Yorkie now?

I had high hopes for Subban but I just told you I don't like ESPN's setup, that includes him. What disappoints me most about him is that he always presented himself as someone new but his mentality is as old-school as it gets--he basically despises all the shit he pulled himself as a player. About the only analyst of theirs I truly like is probably Ryan Callahan, and I haven't seen him on there since I watched a game on ESPN+. I don't mind Chelios too much either, especially when he goes out of his way to shit all over Mike Babcock. But the rest of it is pure amateur hour, half-assed bullshit. Only Wischusen is their saving grace.

The TNT guys are light years better. Lundqvist always offers up great breakdowns of goalies, he's pretty much ripped into his former teammate Georgiev rather decisively, and the rest of those guys can actually articulate themselves, even Biz.
 

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You're getting more incoherent than usual, are you switching from wannabe Londoner to wannabe Yorkie now?
Never wannabe blud, I am always a straight flexin yardie.

Oh yeah, we are in total agreement that TNT is by far away the best, but our discussion is if Altitude is better than ESPN and sorry brethren, but it ain't.
 
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Absolutely and utterly true. Messier is actually the best analyst in hockey, he's just not a good public speaker. Trust me, I very much dislike Messier as a player, most overrated player in hockey history.
but but the captainiest captain!

Off-topic I know, but is EJ actually all that much worse than Kylington or CDH at this point? Though he and Malinski are both righties, EJ as a stay-at-home Dman with Malinski at PMD can't be any worse than Ludvig, CDH, Kylington or JMFJ and there are some intangibles in the locker room and in mentoring Malinski. Hell, if Landy can't make it back this year, give EJ the 'C' for the end of the season.

I was pretty vocal in favor of letting EJ go when we did. But CMac has done nothing to materially replace Byram and if the Avs are going to head into the playoffs with a subpar 6D, why not make it EJ?
I think if we are in the thick of things and it's there to happen, we could see EJ back as feel-good mascot. Maybe the organization doesn't see it that way, but you can certainly point to precedent here. Hell maybe it'll be JJ instead.
 

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Off-topic I know, but is EJ actually all that much worse than Kylington or CDH at this point? Though he and Malinski are both righties, EJ as a stay-at-home Dman with Malinski at PMD can't be any worse than Ludvig, CDH, Kylington or JMFJ and there are some intangibles in the locker room and in mentoring Malinski. Hell, if Landy can't make it back this year, give EJ the 'C' for the end of the season.

I was pretty vocal in favor of letting EJ go when we did. But CMac has done nothing to materially replace Byram and if the Avs are going to head into the playoffs with a subpar 6D, why not make it EJ?
Erik Johnson is not a good defensemen anymore. It's long past time for him to hang 'em up but he got the nice UFA deal so more power to him.
 

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Someone post this on the mains.

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I don't watch the games, I listen on the radio in bed as the games are typically pretty late.

I heard mention in a recent interview that Bednar was going to move Moose to the Mittlestadt/Nuke line, and move Drouin up with Mac and Lekky.

Has he done this in the last couple of games?
 

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I don't watch the games, I listen on the radio in bed as the games are typically pretty late.

I heard mention in a recent interview that Bednar was going to move Moose to the Mittlestadt/Nuke line, and move Drouin up with Mac and Lekky.

Has he done this in the last couple of games?
Yes. Outside of a few shifts here and there where he reunites MacK and Mikko, those have been the lines the past two games.
 

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I don't watch the games, I listen on the radio in bed as the games are typically pretty late.

I heard mention in a recent interview that Bednar was going to move Moose to the Mittlestadt/Nuke line, and move Drouin up with Mac and Lekky.

Has he done this in the last couple of games?
Couldn't you just watch the games in bed?
 

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