Confirmed with Link: Oilers sign Connor Brown to 1-year incentive laden deal ($775K caphit, potentially $3.25M in bonuses)

[Drivesaitl]

Hyman's career high before he got to Edmonton was 41 points. Playing with McDavid and Draisaitl bumped those totals a bit.

Its a comparison fallacy. Hyman had a crash and go to the net game. That was going to work here and also on the PP. it was gimme stuff. Connor Brown is not Hyman. I could see that people would want him to be.

 

[Soundwave]

Watch this dude get injured half way through the season and the Oilers get a big cap penalty for jack shit.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

At this point it's honestly a feeling of apathy.

This is just horrifically bad management, I can't even believe it. This is straight up Chiarelli type of stuff.

I feel sorry for Staois or whoever is the next GM.

No. People with feelings of apathy don’t spend their entire day posting endlessly about something they are apathetic towards.

Those people have lives that just suck so bad that they irrationally tie themselves to something emotionally and then get upset when that thing doesn’t do what they want when they have misguided feelings about the subject because they waste so much time thinking about it that they actually convince themselves that they know what they’re taking about.

 

[Soundwave]

No. People with feelings of apathy don’t spend their entire day posting endlessly about something they are apathetic towards.

Those people have lives that just suck so bad that they irrationally tie themselves to something emotionally and then get upset when that thing doesn’t do what they want when they have misguided feelings about the subject because they waste so much time thinking about it that they actually convince themselves that they know what they’re taking about.

Why don't you stick to commenting on Oilers news instead of playing shrink to people on a message board.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

All of these guys signed at a discount to play where they wanted to, Krejci and Bergeron wanted one more shot with the Bruins. Patches is the closest comparable but he is broken. I'd take Brown's deal over his in a heartbeat.

Sure wasn't arguing, just posting. I suspect this place will burn down shortly

 

[Broberg Speed]

Its a fallacy. Hyman had a crash and go to the net game. That was going to work here and also on the PP. it was gimme stuff. Connor Brown is not Hyman. I could see that people would want him to be.

I'm willing to wait and observe. I'm not going to dance or cry this evening.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Drivesaitl seems to really hate brown despite knowing nothing about the player

 

[alphahelix]

It is of course possible he won't be what he was. All UFA signings are a risk. But the odds that he is a much better player than Kostin are strongly on the Oilers side. But Kostin was not signing with the Oilers. That is 100% clear so he is effectively irrelevant in this discussion.

The Oilers wouldn’t pay Kostin 2 M but they would pay Connor Brown 4M. We could have had 2 years of Kostin for the same price and actually had a player next year for the money. The negotiations pretty much played out in the public/media– Kostin would be here if we were willing to pay the price, for better or for worse. Certainly would have led to a different set of decisions to make it all work.

 

[Fourier]

Sure wasn't arguing, just posting. I suspect this place will burn down shortly

 

[alphahelix]

Connor Brown of course isn't in anyway even remotely comparable to those players. Which is probably a salient point to make. i.e. you make some concessions for players that actually have moved a dial. Not sure how Holland got bent over giving the same concessions to a Connor Brown.

Absolutely this. Connor Brown is a relative nobody in the grand scheme of things, has barely ever cracked a top 6 in his life- and we rolled out the red carpet for him.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Its a comparison fallacy. Hyman had a crash and go to the net game. That was going to work here and also on the PP. it was gimme stuff. Connor Brown is not Hyman. I could see that people would want him to be.

Hyman also never put up the stats he has before coming to Edmonton and playing with the 2 best players in the world

 

[Fourier]

The Oilers wouldn’t pay Kostin 2 M but they would pay Connor Brown 4M. We could have had 2 years of Kostin for the same price and actually had a player next year for the money. The negotiations pretty much played out in the public/media– Kostin would be here if we were willing to pay the price, for better or for worse. Certainly would have led to a different set of decisions to make it all work.

They could not have paid Kostin $2M. Part of this is making sure they have money to sign Bouchard and McLeod. Kostin at $2M would have required them to give away Foegele. If Brown was $4M this year he would not have been signed.

 

[alphahelix]

Stop the conspiracy theory stuff.

Its not really a conspiracy if its just one person’s actions, taking the path of least resistance and consequence for himself.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Absolutely this. Connor Brown is a relative nobody in the grand scheme of things, has barely ever cracked a top 6 in his life- and we rolled out the red carpet for him.

Red carpet? You know it’s 2023 right.

 

[alphahelix]

They could not have paid Kostin $2M. Part of this is making sure they have money to sign Bouchard and McLeod. Kostin at $2M would have required them to give away Foegele. If Brown was $4M this year he would not have been signed.

I Agree that it would have required them to move Foegele or someone else, as I said, we would be following a whole different path for better or for worse. So, I disagree that they could not have paid Kostin 2M$. Brown being 4M for any year should not be signed Regardless of the payment structure. Its like saying “who cares what the price of the house is, we can afford the downpayment today!”

It’s a major complication for this team Going forward, and what we’re going to get out of Brown is far from certain. Quite a gamble in a number of ways.

Red carpet? You know it’s 2023 right.

is there a more appropriate and relevant analogy in 2023? Did I miss a hot new TikTok?

 

[Drivesaitl]

Absolutely this. Connor Brown is a relative nobody in the grand scheme of things, has barely ever cracked a top 6 in his life- and we rolled out the red carpet for him.

Nah, I read in the thread he's "An Absolute high Character guy" lol The kind of fiction terms that get just added up whenever somebody is selling a player like a used car.

-Solid 200foot player (despite heavy GA)

-High character guy (despite never getting anything in playoffs.


For sure this is no Krejci or Bergeron but might be our "big signing" of the offseason so people elevating him in some way. Seems like every offseason.

 

[Soundwave]

I Agree that it would have required them to move Foegele or someone else, as I said, we would be following a whole different path for better or for worse. So, I disagree that they could not have paid Kostin 2M$. Brown being 4M for any year should not be signed Regardless of the payment structure. Its like saying “who cares what the price of the house is, we can afford the downpayment today!”

It’s a major complication for this team Going forward, and what we’re going to get out of Brown is far from certain. Quite a gamble in a number of ways.

It's almost like overpaying Nurse and Campbell by several millions of dollars has consequences, and now the next GM is going to have this pile of shit put onto their plate to start with too ($3.2 million cap penalty for a player not even on the roster, so effectively most other GMs gets a big fat cap rise next year except the Oilers).

 

[Leonardlizard]

Omfg I thought the 10 games thing was a joke

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Nah, I read in the thread he's "An Absolute high Character guy" lol The kind of fiction terms that get just added up whenever somebody is selling a player like a used car.

-Solid 200foot player (despite heavy GA)

-High character guy (despite never getting anything in playoffs.


For sure this is no Krejci or Bergeron but might be our "big signing" of the offseason so people elevating him in some way. Seems like every offseason.

Are you upset we got brown or that we replaced Kostin with him?

You get overly attached to players all the time.

Kostin was a largely inconsistent player that people think was a force on a daily basis

 

[Drivesaitl]

Drivesaitl seems to really hate brown despite knowing nothing about the player

Thanks for the mention

I liked Downtown Eddie Brown. Does that count?

No. People with feelings of apathy don’t spend their entire day posting endlessly about something they are apathetic towards.

Those people have lives that just suck so bad that they irrationally tie themselves to something emotionally and then get upset when that thing doesn’t do what they want when they have misguided feelings about the subject because they waste so much time thinking about it that they actually convince themselves that they know what they’re taking about.

I'm only here because Edmonton has been hit with around a dozen storms today, alas on Canada day. Else I'd be out somewhere at some Canada Day celly.

 

[Soundwave]

Omfg I thought the 10 games thing was a joke

Yup, that Chiarelli feeling of "wait ... this is a joke right?" when you see the full details.

 

[Senor Catface]

It's not conspiracy that he's not gonna be here next year.

He just did the "well f*** it then, not my problem".

Why should he care about next year.

It’s the rest of the stuff I mean, and you know it.

Saying he’s purposely tanking next year because of his son not getting the job? Lol level stuff.

 

[alphahelix]

Why don't you stick to commenting on Oilers news instead of playing shrink to people on a message board.

I like how people come on hardcore sport fan messageboard in 2023 (like, how do casuals even find this place?) and make pithy comments about how posters care too much. What are you even doing here if you don’t care about the Oilers and want to discuss the pros and cons of the team? There aren’t a million other things to do on the internet?

 

[Drivesaitl]

Are you upset we got brown or that we replaced Kostin with him?

You get overly attached to players all the time.

Kostin was a largely inconsistent player that people think was a force on a daily basis

Its Kostin that is costing some of this reaction. At least for the now. I give in to the fandom of loving players that I love. Not the worst thing in the world. If Brown performs I'll acknowledge it. hows that?

 

[alphahelix]

It’s the rest of the stuff I mean, and you know it.

Saying he’s purposely tanking next year because of his son not getting the job? Lol level stuff.

I’m not saying I agree with Soundwave on these particulars, but I think the point in comparing him to Chiarelli et al. Was that those were other managers only invested in the final year of their contract/employment who had nothing to lose/gain from worrying about the future- and made painful decisions that affected the team long-term.

Did you miss the point?