Confirmed with Link: Oilers sign Connor Brown to 1-year incentive laden deal ($775K caphit, potentially $3.25M in bonuses)

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

After scoring precisely 0 goals throughout the rest of the season and throughout the postseason: Game 7, SCF, Overtime...

Connor Brown.

Wouldnt that be the cherry on the sundae!

 

[bone]

After scoring precisely 0 goals throughout the rest of the season and throughout the postseason: Game 7, SCF, Overtime...

Connor Brown.

While that'd make one hell of a story. My question would be why is he even playing in Game 7 if he's still at 0 goals over a stretch of around 100 games. Has any forward in history gone 100 games without a goal?

 

[Drivesaitl]

Washington was happy with Brown. They actually wanted him back so I not sure where the idea that they just let him go. Brown just wanted to test free agency. Here is a quote from their GM in an interview with their beat guy in late June that I previously posted.



They traded for him and paid him $4M in his last year with a $3.6M cap. We can't be sure what they would have offered but you typically don't ask a player that you are happy with and want back to take a big cut.

This makes little sense. If the caps were happy with the player they would have re-upped the player.

So that either they had seen enough and had no interest in doing so.

or

They had a sense what the player would be asking for and they had no interest in pursuing that.


Fact of the matter is Caps didn't offer an extension. Not even an offer.


The Caps quote is standard window dressing. Something most clubs do. But as things often are actions speak louder than words and the Caps were clearly happy enough with Brown to watch him depart...

Seems like the Leafs won as well, by losing the negotiation for this player.

 

[AM]

This makes little sense. If the caps were happy with the player they would have re-upped the player.

So that either they had seen enough and had no interest in doing so.

or

They had a sense what the player would be asking for and they had no interest in pursuing that.


Fact of the matter is Caps didn't offer an extension. Not even an offer.


The Caps quote is standard window dressing. Something most clubs do. But as things often are actions speak louder than words and the Caps were clearly happy enough with Brown to watch him depart...

Seems like the Leafs won as well, by losing the negotiation for this player.

Looks like fans don’t like watching their team win.

 

[Drivesaitl]

While that'd make one hell of a story. My question would be why is he even playing in Game 7 if he's still at 0 goals over a stretch of around 100 games. Has any forward in history gone 100 games without a goal?

I was wondering what the record for an alleged "topsix player" is. Thanks for asking for a friend.

47 games a virgin now if anybody is counting. He'll pop his cherry sometime, but its been interesting.

Looks like fans don’t like watching their team win.

Not sure what this comment has to do with anything. Maybe explain.

 

[ZJuice]

I imagine that Brown would be useful in a bar fight, he would start vaulting over tables, swinging on chandeliers (they only go to fancy bars), laughing loudly, pouring beers on his chest and down his pants. This would allow Kane to take out mesmerized bar brawlers safely and efficiently

 

[Drivesaitl]

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hey, Boomer you only get so much production when you’re only paying a guy league minimum. Good thing the team didn’t throw more money at him

I read somewhere though that he’s poised to go on a heater soon. Waiting!

Shirley you noticed all the visual improvement. Its "inane" to suggest otherwise.

Man this thread gives the laughs.

Most of what I noticed is the "solid 200ft player" passing the puck to an opponent in own zone twice last night and one resulting in a dangerous scoring chance against and an Oilers penalty. Why is this guy still even on the ice? We have better options.

I imagine that Brown would be useful in a bar fight, he would start vaulting over tables, swinging on chandeliers (they only go to fancy bars), laughing loudly, pouring beers on his chest and down his pants. This would allow Kane to take out mesmerized bar brawlers safely and efficiently

Hard to imagine Brown even being in a bar. He's a 30yr old virgin and he can only handle one shot a night.

This was a joke. I have to say this sort of thing or some get offended.

 

[YakDavid]

All jokes aside, he's playing decent and getting chances, it looks like it'll come. The bonus is done nothing we can do about it so here's hoping he keeps working hard on the 4th line. Winning is everything, you need contributions from everyone and the Oilers are getting something from him right now

That’s how I feel. Offence is coming around and he is looking more comfortable. The big thing is he at 750k good value? Yes big time. He has the bonus but that already baked in either this or next year. If you put him on waivers it’s a 750k cap hit and almost every team would take it.

 

[bone]

I was wondering what the record for an alleged "topsix player" is. Thanks for asking for a friend.

47 games a virgin now if anybody is counting. He'll pop his cherry sometime, but its been interesting.


Not sure what this comment has to do with anything. Maybe explain.

Looks like the longest regular season streak by a forward was Craig Adams with 86 games who also had a 62 games streak in his career.

47 games would push Brown into the top 60 in longest goalless streaks, with a very interesting name amongst those with a 47 game streak.... Mr. Joe Thornton in the 2018-19 through 2019-2020 season.

https://stathead.com/tiny/p9Ovz

 

[Drivesaitl]

Looks like the longest regular season streak by a forward was Craig Adams with 86 games who also had a 62 games streak in his career.

47 games would push Brown into the top 60 in longest goalless streaks, with a very interesting name amongst those with a 47 game streak.... Mr. Joe Thornton in the 2018-19 through 2019-2020 season.

https://stathead.com/tiny/p9Ovz

Thanks, that is interesting. Hooberdeau was in one too but not legendarily long.

Thing with Tnornton is he was playing injured AND with an axe to grind. He was all but coach killing and on the outs at the time. There was no love lost in the SJ. In fairness too Jumbo was 41yrs old at the time and had overstayed his hockey productivity. That playoff beard wasn't fooling anyone.

 

[brentashton]

Shirley you noticed all the visual improvement. Its "inane" to suggest otherwise.

Man this thread gives the laughs.

Most of what I noticed is the "solid 200ft player" passing the puck to an opponent in own zone twice last night and one resulting in a dangerous scoring chance against and an Oilers penalty. Why is this guy still even on the ice? We have better options.


Hard to imagine Brown even being in a bar. He's a 30yr old virgin and he can only handle one shot a night.

This was a joke. I have to say this sort of thing or some get offended.

He can’t score to save his soul, you’d think he could at least find it within himself to toss out a hit or two in a game like PHI. But no, that would take effort. Zeros across the stat line, save for one pity shot somewhere along the line. Even NHL statisticians are feeling bad for him.

Listened to Strudwick, Rishaug and Rob Brown pod this morning and the sentiment there is when Holloway and Gagner are back that Erne is a casualty but not by much vs CB and Brown is barely hanging on to his 4th line spot.

…and don’t call me Shirley.

 

[bone]

Thanks, that is interesting. Hooberdeau was in one too but not legendarily long.

Thing with Tnornton is he was playing injured AND with an axe to grind. He was all but coach killing and on the outs at the time. There was no love lost in the SJ. In fairness too Jumbo was 41yrs old at the time and had overstayed his hockey productivity. That playoff beard wasn't fooling anyone.

I'm curious about what happening with that list I made though as it isn't including Brown despite me limitting to Forwards and the site currently recognizes him as being on a 46 gamer. It isn't because it excluded active streaks as Deslauriers shows up on it. As such, I'm not 100% confident the list is all emcompassing, but regardless, it is showing that his streak is quickly moving up the charts.

 

[Fourier]

This makes little sense. If the caps were happy with the player they would have re-upped the player.

So that either they had seen enough and had no interest in doing so.

or

They had a sense what the player would be asking for and they had no interest in pursuing that.


Fact of the matter is Caps didn't offer an extension. Not even an offer.


The Caps quote is standard window dressing. Something most clubs do. But as things often are actions speak louder than words and the Caps were clearly happy enough with Brown to watch him depart...

Seems like the Leafs won as well, by losing the negotiation for this player.

You cannot simply take things as they almost surely are can you. It seems from your posts that you think everyone from reporters to other teams GMs were involved in some elaborate conspiracy to dump a player that no one wanted on the Oilers by talking him up in the press.

The quote was in an interview with the local beat writer before free agency started. There was absolutely no reason he would say that they want to re-sign him but that player wants to try the free agency route if that was not the case. You do realise that players who are UFAs have a choice in where they play. Brown had no real history with Washington and said before signing in Edmonton that he was interested in returning to Canada. When they approached him he told them he wanted to try free agency. This happens all the time. I have no idea why you are trying so hard to justify your claim that this was a player that no one had any interest in.

 

[Drivesaitl]

You cannot simply take things as they almost surely are can you. It seems from your posts that you think everyone from reporters to other teams GMs were involved in some elaborate conspiracy to dump a player that no one wanted on the Oilers by talking him up in the press.

The quote was in an interview why would with the local beat writer before free agency started. There was absolutely no reason he would say that they want to re-sign him but that player wants to try the free agency route if that was not the case. You do realise that players who are UFAs have a choice in where they play. Brown had no real history with Washington and said before signing in Edmonton that he was interested in returning to Canada. When they approached him he told them he wanted to try free agency. This happens all the time. I have no idea why you are trying so hard to justify your claim that this was a player that no one had any interest in.

I have no idea why you had made the false claim that +10 teams were interested in signing Brown. I asked you 3 times to clarify or give citation. You didn't.

The two teams in the turtle derby were Edmonton and Toronto. Looks like we *won*.

All I'm saying is actions can be louder than words. Thats not a completely unreasonable take. If you think so, fine.

Caps had the most information on the player and they never re-upped. The Caps statement, which I was well aware of, is standard type commentary with UFA's that are not being resigned. Its a goodwill statement gesture further to being on good terms with players, NHLPA, etc. Wise orgs and GM's don't burn any bridges with players or agents. Thats why nice statements get stated. Thats good HR in play, you know that.

 

[bone]

I'm curious about what happening with that list I made though as it isn't including Brown despite me limitting to Forwards and the site currently recognizes him as being on a 46 gamer. It isn't because it excluded active streaks as Deslauriers shows up on it. As such, I'm not 100% confident the list is all emcompassing, but regardless, it is showing that his streak is quickly moving up the charts.

Digging deeper I think the list is only spitting out players who played every game during the span so he's not on it since he missed games.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Sweep, I don't think it's his defenders that are being jerks...

At least you made an argument I can buy.

Even given that the defenders are the ones making rude assumptions on other posters, or that you have, or that you just stated this to another poster:

I see you're STILL not understanding what I said despite me explaining it twice.

At some point people are just blinded by preconceptions, laziness or stupidity.

We've all done some of this. But what position one takes in a discussion can deeply color and distort who is doing what. The reality is lots of shots have been fired in this thread, and its less than ideal because we're fans of the club.

Ain't nobody being an angel in this thread.

Double negative intended for hillbilly humor.

 

[Fourier]

I have no idea why you made the false claim that +10 teams were interested in signing Brown. I asked you 3 times to clarify or give citation. You didn't.

The two teams in the turtle derby were Edmonton and Toronto. Looks like we *won*.

All I'm saying is actions can be louder than words. Thats not a completely unreasonable take. If you think so, fine.

What part of my posting history suggests that I just make things up. What I said was that there were credible reports that 10+ teams were interested in his services. I said this because I heard this from Seravelli on some show. I could perhaps spend 100 hours going through every podcast he was on leading up to free agency to find it for you if you really need it that badly. But then as we have just seen you would say that he was just making this up to dupe the Oilers.

If you don't like the 10+ number I posted a segment where Seravelli said that he thought that the Oilers were going to have a lot of competition for Brown and that he was pouring cold water on the claim that it was a done deal suggesting he had multi-year offers of $3M+ . Friedman and others also indicated this as well.

You MO is always the same. You demand others present references to back up their claims while you never do for your own. In fact, you make something up out of nowhere and then when presented with direct evidence that contradicts what you said you spew some sort of non-sense about it being fake news. This latest one is just another example. You make some definitive statement about the Caps not having interest in the player without any supporting evidence then when presented with a direct quote from the GM saying they did you still want to twist it so that you are right.

Take the win. Brown is not living up to his contract. We all know this.

 

[VainGretzky]

…and don’t call me Shirley.

 

[alphahelix]

the interesting thing about Brown isnt the GP its the raw days. how many players have gone 700 days without a goal and still got an opportunity/remembered how to score another one when the time came? A couple missed seasons that I can recall but this is stretching quite a distance

 

[brentashton]

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Although I loved Herb Tarlek in WKRP I was thinking Leslie Nielsen in the Airplane (original) movie.



Thumbs up for the smile it gave me however

Now I can’t stop thinking of Arthur Carlson and his famous quote,
“As God is my witness I though turkeys could
fly!”. Now I will have that earworm going all day.

Thanks Vain

 

[Drivesaitl]

What part of my posting history suggests that I just make things up. What I said was that there were credible reports that 10+ teams were interested in his services. I said this because I heard this from Seravelli on some show. I could perhaps spend 100 hours going through every podcast he was on leading up to free agency to find it for you if you really need it that badly. But then as we have just seen you would say that he was just making this up to dupe the Oilers.

If you don't like the 10+ number I posted a segment where Seravelli said that he thought that the Oilers were going to have a lot of competition for Brown and that he was pouring cold water on the claim that it was a done deal suggesting he had multi-year offers of $3M+ . Friedman and others also indicated this as well.

You MO is always the same. You demand others present references to back up their claims while you never do for your own. In fact, you make something up out of nowhere and then when presented with direct evidence that contradicts what you said you spew some sort of non-sense about it being fake news. This latest one is just another example. You make some definitive statement about the Caps not having interest in the player without any supporting evidence then when presented with a direct quote from the GM saying they did you still want to twist it so that you are right.

Take the win. Brown is not living up to his contract. We all know this.

Thanks for confirming the +10 teams you stated were interested in offering Brown a contract has no substantiation. I knew that going in.

Feel free to make it about me though..

What I don't like, and why would I, is the constant throwing shade.

I substantiate my posting and provide citation as much as anybody but you. You do that a lot, I give you props for doing so. But while disputing what you often allege numbers show.

If you want to discontinue dialog thats fair and good and fine with me. That might be the best option now considering your stated opinion of my posting.

 

[Fishy McScales]

Even given that the defenders are the ones making rude assumptions on other posters, or that you have, or that you just stated this to another poster:

I see you're STILL not understanding what I said despite me explaining it twice.

At some point people are just blinded by preconceptions, laziness or stupidity.

We've all done some of this. But what position one takes in a discussion can deeply color and distort who is doing what. The reality is lots of shots have been fired in this thread, and its less than ideal because we're fans of the club.

Ain't nobody being an angel in this thread.

Double negative intended for hillbilly humor.

If someone is taking multiple shots at me for something I didn't say, my propensity for measured response will decline proportionately.

Funny, I don't see you lecturing Brent on forum etiquette.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Thanks for confirming the +10 teams you stated were interested in offering Brown a contract has no substantiation. I knew that going in.

Feel free to make it about me though..

What I don't like, and why would I, is the constant throwing shade.

I substantiate my posting and provide citation as much as anybody but you. You do that a lot, I give you props for doing so. But while disputing what you often allege numbers show.

If you want to discontinue dialog thats fair and good and fine with me. That might be the best option now considering your stated opinion of my posting.

You rarely substantiate your posting.

You throw out comments and when proven wrong with 5 seconds of looking up, you change what you were saying.

You also downplay anything anyone says about the brown situation, and seem to not understand that it takes 2 parties to sign a deal.

Not sure why you’re confused that Washington didn’t sign him from the reports that he wanted to test free agency.

 

[Drivesaitl]

If someone is taking multiple shots at me for something I didn't say, my propensity for measured response will decline proportionately.

Funny, I don't see you lecturing Brent on forum etiquette.

I'm not lecturing you either. its funny how you haven't seen any of the several posts lecturing me and others in the thread lately. Right?

Some of those were going farther than the player or topic, they were making unfair generalizations about posters. you did that too, to me. Thats the line thats crossed that isn't supposed to be crossed.

To wit the rule being let the convo be about the topic, and not about the other poster.

We just find ourselves on different sides of this discussion and that should be OK. But the board is highly testy these days. Its not isolated.

 

[Fishy McScales]

I'm not lecturing you either. its funny how you haven't seen any of the several posts lecturing me and others in the thread lately. Right?

Some of those were going farther than the player or topic, they were making unfair generalizations about posters. you did that too, to me. Thats the line thats crossed that isn't supposed to be crossed.

To wit the rule being let the convo be about the topic, and not about the other poster.

We just find ourselves on different sides of this discussion and that should be OK. But the board is highly testy these days. Its not isolated.

I don't think that's right.

Everyone hates the bonus. Literally everyone.

The people who also hate the player immediately jump to the conclusion that people are fine with the bonus for just uttering anything even remotely positive about the player and/or the cap hit as it stands this season.

It's not two different sides so much as one side continously stifling any chance at meaningful discussion about the player. Discussing the bonus is not meaningful because 100% of the board is already in agreement there.

And yes, you are lecturing me specifically while liking ignorant posts responding to me.