Davo Ikinzom
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First few pages are hilarious to read now. And bravo to @Drivesaitl for correctly calling this from the beginning.
Ugh. Why did it have to be worst case.It being games played is awful for the team because it’s not based on performance just ability to show up to a game.
Best case he plays great and our cap hurts next year. Worst case he plays like a shit 4th liner and our cap is hurt next year.
I do not understand why they don't send Brown to Bakersfield. He's not helping the team, he has his $. The Oilers have more than fulfilled their end of the bargain. Keeping him on the NHL roster at this point is not a good look for Jackson - it makes him appear more loyal to his former clients than to the Oilers. I'm not saying you abandon the Brown project completely, but get him to Bakersfield to try to get some offensive confidence going. Give Lavoie a shot in that roster spot. I am also sick of hearing about how great his is on the PK.
Cause McDavid likes him here probably.I do not understand why they don't send Brown to Bakersfield. He's not helping the team, he has his $. The Oilers have more than fulfilled their end of the bargain. Keeping him on the NHL roster at this point is not a good look for Jackson - it makes him appear more loyal to his former clients than to the Oilers. I'm not saying you abandon the Brown project completely, but get him to Bakersfield to try to get some offensive confidence going. Give Lavoie a shot in that roster spot. I am also sick of hearing about how great his is on the PK.
It's absolutely mind boggling how bad he is. He produces worse than most enforcers while being a defensive liability and frequently playing with 2 of the best players in the world. Even Jerred Smithson had higher PPG than him and was a better penalty killer. Holland basically staked our entire season on a Jerred Smithson who can't win faceoffs and isn't physical.I do not understand why they don't send Brown to Bakersfield. He's not helping the team, he has his $. The Oilers have more than fulfilled their end of the bargain. Keeping him on the NHL roster at this point is not a good look for Jackson - it makes him appear more loyal to his former clients than to the Oilers. I'm not saying you abandon the Brown project completely, but get him to Bakersfield to try to get some offensive confidence going. Give Lavoie a shot in that roster spot. I am also sick of hearing about how great his is on the PK.
He was signed a month before Jackson was hired.the scary thing is that this was probably a Jeff Jackson move...
fair enough..was he his agent?He was signed a month before Jackson was hired.
Same agency, but Gagner's dad was Brown's agent for this one according to Puckpedia.fair enough..was he his agent?
It sounds like the bonus is applied right when it's reached, so the Oilers were on the hook for it immediately after game 10.Never did find out what happens if we trade him with regards to his bonus and all that crap.
But if there is no impact on next year's cap with a team claiming him on waivers then he should be sent to the AHL to get up to speed.
Bring up Lavoie and play him in the top 6.
However, wouldn't surprise me if we waive him that we are on the hook for his bonus next year. Which I mean who wouldn't want to claim a cup at league minimum to screw us over?
Which I guess would make sense to why they don't want to waive him. Already committed to next year's cap so might as well see if he can get things going and bring some sort of value this year.From reading about it----even if Brown was traded or claimed on waivers the Oilers are still on the hook for the bonus.
If the Oilers are sellers come March, they might get a 3rd or 4th round pick for him.
I'm pretty sure that Kenny is going to insist that they run with Brown the whole season but again, come March, if the team is a "seller" then even Kenny has to swallow his pride and see if he can get something for him. Ditto for Foegele who at least scores once in awhile.Which I guess would make sense to why they don't want to waive him. Already committed to next year's cap so might as well see if he can get things going and bring some sort of value this year.
There is no chance the Oilers get a 3rd or 4th round pick for Brown.From reading about it----even if Brown was traded or claimed on waivers the Oilers are still on the hook for the bonus.
If the Oilers are sellers come March, they might get a 3rd or 4th round pick for him.
When Holland goes off on his own terms, the Brown, Campbell, and Nurse deals should follow him wherever he goes.To do something monumentally stupid is one thing.
To double down on that stupidity when you actually have a possible out is another thing..
Good thing the Oilers have an owner who does not care about the team, the fans or the city or this entire clown show would be purged properly.
Thanks for sending me down this trail. Overall, he's got the 3rd lowest points per game in Oiler history for forwards who played 20 or more games.He officially has lower PPG as an Oiler than Steve MacIntyre and Brad Malone now. 13 more games and he can officially take the title of least productive forward in Oilers history from Mike Brown.
The bonus structure is so horrible, take that away and we would have been ok with taking a chance on him then waiving him once he didn't pan out.
exactly, nobody would believe me, they were all like amazing work Kenny! I like the gamble on the player but not at the crazy contract that was constructed.Now, as I said then, people are realizing what I was saying the moment this contract was made public last summer. This was a disaster in the making.
The gamble made some sense in terms of giving us low AAV this year, but the fact that the bonus was entirely paid based on playing 10 games made it an awful gamble. If Brown was gonna get $3m+ in potential bonuses, it should've been something like $1m for 10 games played, $1m for 10 goals, $1m for 30 points, or something to that affect. Sure, lob him an easy target for some of the bonus money, but he should've been required to actually produce something to get the majority of the bonus.