Post-Game Talk: Oilers play like an expansion team and lose.

[Oilhawks]

I think you have to look at it logically, once you get past McD and Drai there isn't a ton of first class talent on the Oilers.

But give the Seattle franchise some credit too. Look at how far they have come without any superstar help.

This is the same team that stood around and got ass-blasted 7-2. They're bad. And them making the playoffs over the Oilers and Flames is peak hilarity.

 

[SnipeShowJB11]

No, but some fans thinking they could do a better job when they dont understand how anything actually works is also hilarious.

You would be shocked at how dumb most management is. These people are human beings. They aren't special. Michael Buble is buddies with the idiot owner in VAN. He said you would be shocked at the convos GM's have.

How lucky they get with trades, etc

it's a 90% old boys club. Just recycle guys left and right

 

[Reasonable Oil Fan]

Okay then followup question... Do the Oilers understand how anything works? Why do they consistently draft disappointments? Why do they fail to address team needs year after year when other teams do it just fine? Was Ken Holland hired based on actual recent merit or because he was buddies with the Hockey Canada Boys Club?

There's no doubt in my mind that if the Oilers had ever been serious about winning a Cup when McDavid was drafted they could've. The West isn't that deep at all. But year after year we experience the same problems that have yet to be resolved.

Simply stated: Whatever the Oilers have been doing in the past 16 years hasn't worked. And unless they clean house they will not win a Cup. Period.

Don’t disagree with him
You’ll get reported

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

This was quite frankly embarrassing.

Bad GM, subpar coaching, lackadaisical effort and execution from the players.

Stauffer saying Holland is paid to get a defenseman probably means the pressure is on from Katz.

Be very worried. Holland under pressure could be disastrous.

Serious question: Is Daryl Katz actually still alive?

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Okay then followup question... Do the Oilers understand how anything works? Why do they consistently draft disappointments? Why do they fail to address team needs year after year when other teams do it just fine? Was Ken Holland hired based on actual recent merit or because he was buddies with the Hockey Canada Boys Club?

There's no doubt in my mind that if the Oilers had ever been serious about winning a Cup when McDavid was drafted they could've. The West isn't that deep at all. But year after year we experience the same problems that have yet to be resolved.

Simply stated: Whatever the Oilers have been doing in the past 16 years hasn't worked. And unless they clean house they will not win a Cup. Period.

Their development is a much bigger issue than their drafting.

Recently their drafting has been solid

I think you'd be surprised at how few picks actually turn out, no NHL team hits on all their picks like you think the Oilers should.

 

[Messier11]

I don't even care if we make the playoffs anymore...I just want to see BouchTard sent packing. Zero effort. Dumb penalty on the first goal. Basically the worst effort on the third one. Enough is enough. I don't care if he turns into Bobby Orr.

Either that, or Woodcroft and/or Manson should grow a pair and send him to Bakersfield for a conditioning stint, or send him to the press box.

YMMV.

 

[Oilhawks]

This was quite frankly embarrassing.

Bad GM, subpar coaching, lackadaisical effort and execution from the players.

Stauffer saying Holland is paid to get a defenseman probably means the pressure is on from Katz.

Be very worried. Holland under pressure could be disastrous.

Knowing Katz, he'll make him overpay for some career loser that either gets injured 5 games in (Chychrun) or an absolute slug plug like Edmundson

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Don’t disagree with him
You’ll get reported

I never reported you.

But when you show up defending calgary in an OOT thread crying about us bashing them, expect to get dealt with.

You would be shocked at how dumb most management is. These people are human beings. They aren't special. Michael Buble is buddies with the idiot owner in VAN. He said you would be shocked at the convos GM's have.

How lucky they get with trades, etc

it's a 90% old boys club. Just recycle guys left and right

Most leagues are just old boys clubs and continually recycle the same idiots over and over.

 

[Reasonable Oil Fan]

I never reported you.

But when you show up defending calgary in an OOT thread crying about us bashing them, expect to get dealt with.


Most leagues are just old boys clubs and continually recycle the same idiots over and over.

Huh?

 

[Soundwave]

Knowing Katz, he'll make him overpay for some career loser that either gets injured 5 games in (Chychrun) or an absolute slug plug like Edmundson

Chris Chelios is available, that's more Holland's speed.

 

[Oilhawks]

I never reported you.

But when you show up defending calgary in an OOT thread crying about us bashing them, expect to get dealt with.


Most leagues are just old boys clubs and continually recycle the same idiots over and over.

That guy is probably a mod at CP. Got ignored almost immediately.

 

[Shizuka]

This was quite frankly embarrassing.

Bad GM, subpar coaching, lackadaisical effort and execution from the players.

Stauffer saying Holland is paid to get a defenseman probably means the pressure is on from Katz.

Be very worried. Holland under pressure could be disastrous.

And this is exactly why I don't want them to trade the 1st this year. Yeah, they need to because that moron didn't find the right fits on the D and goaltending, but he is not going to return proper value on a big trade involving the first. He'll end up getting schooled and abused in any trade and get the likes of Joel Edmundson for the '23 1st, Bourgault, ++.

 

[Messier11]

We're currently in a playoff spot and only a point behind Calgary. This season is still salvageable if Holland could get off his ass and improve our defence. What are we paying Holland to do ?

If is the operative word. Holland should have had the guts to trade for someone 10games ago. Let's say he had traded for Chycrun somehow before Chycrun racked up almost 20 points. The cost just went up.

 

[Reasonable Oil Fan]

I never reported you.

But when you show up defending calgary in an OOT thread crying about us bashing them, expect to get dealt with.


Most leagues are just old boys clubs and continually recycle the same idiots over and over.

You’re a confused little fella aren’t you

 

[K1984]

The boos weren’t near loud enough after the game.

Woodcroft meanwhile pretending nothing is wrong still. “Uncharacteristic errors” according to coach Tony Robbins.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - the moment coaches in Edmonton insult the fan’s intelligence is when they start losing support. He needs to change his tone and stop the “aww shucks we lost again!” Bullshit.

He can start by showing he’s not a p***y and bag skating these losers tomorrow. Who am I kidding though? Skills practice coming up.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Huh?

What are you "huh"ing about.

You are clearly insinuating that I reported you for disagreeing.

If you go back in that thread where many people were laughing at you and pointing out what thread you were in, maybe you'd get a hint.

 

[Messier11]

I don't even care about which goalies starting anymore. We're not doing anything with this roster or mental fragile bullshit.

Going to watch and be a fan for mcdrai...hope for the best... But post loss depression and wondering why they suck is legit becoming detrimental.

Holland sucks so much dick

Best line of the night.

 

[Soundwave]

The boos weren’t near loud enough after the game.

Woodcroft meanwhile pretending nothing is wrong still. “Uncharacteristic errors” according to coach Tony Robbins.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - the moment coaches in Edmonton insult the fan’s intelligence is when they start losing support. He needs to change his tone and stop the “aww shucks we lost again!” Bullshit.

He can start by showing he’s not a p***y and bag skating these losers tomorrow. Who am I kidding though? Skills practice coming up.

Woodcroft is more Ned Flanders than Tony Robbins, lol. Tony Robbins actually will call people out on their shit.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Their development is a much bigger issue than their drafting.

Recently their drafting has been solid

I think you'd be surprised at how few picks actually turn out, no NHL team hits on all their picks like you think the Oilers should.

Has it though? The post-McDavid picks have been middling at best. Skinner is the best of the bunch and that's not really saying much.

Yes, picks rarely pan out. The Oilers strike out almost every year though unless they draft super high. Go look at their draft history. So many years without any impact players.

 

[Reasonable Oil Fan]

What are you "huh"ing about.

You are clearly insinuating that I reported you for disagreeing.

If you go back in that thread where many people were laughing at you and pointing out what thread you were in, maybe you'd get a hint.

I have no clue what you’re talking about

You should stay on topic

 

[Jumptheshark]

My first order as GM is to let pink slips rain for almost everyone in scouting.


Year 8 of the best player on the planet and they're barely a playoff team. So, so many braindead quotes from old six rings, to Tobias Reider, to basically anything MacTavish said...

If McDavid wasn't here we're probably at year 17 with no playoffs.

scouting has not been bad--the problem has ALWAYS been development

2nd problem is we traded top picks for literally nothing


the biggest issue is we have no idea how to work the cap right

 

[SnipeShowJB11]

Chris Chelios is available, that's more Holland's speed.

Honestly, if you are a billionaire on paper, how depressed are you over a hockey team? lol

I would be living my best life in Malibu, or wherever he lives. He has his kids and their kids set up for generations.

Daryl is just chillaxing

 

[Oilhawks]

The boos weren’t near loud enough after the game.

Woodcroft meanwhile pretending nothing is wrong still. “Uncharacteristic errors” according to coach Tony Robbins.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - the moment coaches in Edmonton insult the fan’s intelligence is when they start losing support. He needs to change his tone and stop the “aww shucks we lost again!” Bullshit.

He can start by showing he’s not a p***y and bag skating these losers tomorrow. Who am I kidding though? Skills practice coming up.

To be fair, most of the really pissed off and passionate fans likely left 5 minutes before the end of the game. My voice was already gone and had 0 f***s left to give.

The team is a Jekyll and Hyde embarrassment worthy of all the derision it gets. Including the primadona stars that everyone fawns over. I'll say it again, I'd trade every single one of these soft losers for the 2006 team.

 

[FlameChampion]

This was quite frankly embarrassing.

Bad GM, subpar coaching, lackadaisical effort and execution from the players.

Stauffer saying Holland is paid to get a defenseman probably means the pressure is on from Katz.

Be very worried. Holland under pressure could be disastrous.

Its cute that Stauffer thinks that 1 defenseman and Sam Lafferty is going to magically fix this team.

 

[Soundwave]

Has it though? The post-McDavid picks have been middling at best. Skinner is the best of the bunch and that's not really saying much.

Yes, picks rarely pan out. The Oilers strike out almost every year though unless they draft super high. Go look at their draft history. So many years without any impact players.

We need to just call it what it is -- the picks post McDavid f***ing suck.

lol. Enough with putting lipstick on this fat ass pig, they suck.

Imagine that was the Oilers rebuild, like it started in 2016 and those were the players they got out of the draft. The NHL would have to give us Bedard just as a mercy pick.

Puljujarvi-Benson-Yamamoto-Bouchard-Broberg-Holloway-Bourgault make Gagner + Eberle + Paajarvi-Hall-RNH-Yakupov look like the 80s Oilers.