GDT: Oilers @ Leafs Monday March 29 7pm SN

[MattySnipes]

Starting Hutch in the finale of this series reminds me of the time pre-Matthews era when Leafs would be crap all year against good teams and then in final game the opponent coach throws the Leafs a bone and starts their 3rd string-ish goalie. Not that it matters bc Leafs would still lose.

Let's finish this last game strong. We have owned the Oilers this year based off of results, they're a shit team but its so satisfying to have that record vs them.

They can go back to beating the Sens and others shortly.

Lets go Leafs, win this for Hutch.

 

[Cotton]

Oilers fans bitching about 'Teh league never calls penalties on the Leafs!'

Am I tripping or didn't Engvall get two minutes for touching McDavid last game?

They’re upset about the lack of calls our last 4 games against each other. They don’t like playoff hockey where the whistles get put away. But they are also addicted to making excuses and crying - so either or.

But the actual numbers for those lurking - the Leafs have had 99 PP opportunities and 96 PP opportunities against. The Oilers have had 112 PP opportunities and 102 against. That translates to the Leafs taking 7.9 penalties per game, and their opponents take 7.8. The Oilers take 8.6 and their opponents take 9.

 

[Rude Dog]

Their GDT last game during the comeback was all about "game management" in the Leafs favor. They were seeing trips and interferences left and right, but nothing gets called against the Leafs.

Embarrassing. I actually went back and watched the last 10 minutes to see what I obviously missed. The only obvious penalty I could find was the Gally trip on Drais. They were whining about the McDavid pick, and Kassian being interfered with on a breakaway. In both cases, their guys ran into Leaf players. Not even close to being penalties. But let's also overlook the hook on Brodie at the blue line, McDavid's cross checks, and debate-able charge on Kassian. For the record, I was fine with all of them not being called.

Leafs are simply a better team.

 

[IPS]

I don't mind Jack getting a little recovery time. Hutch starts; weaker in goal sure but so are Edmonton. I think it is a smart tactic. Bank on offense to outscore opponent.

With Gally-JT-Nylander line going offensively last game; and depth scoring has been there I think us out producing oilers is much more likely than less likely. Unless McDavid and Drai combine to score 4 to 5 goals I think we gonna be fine.

Not too worried even if we loss. Gotta manage goalies we would need them at 100% during playoff run. I don't think it matters especially in the Canadian division where we finish to be honest; obviously would be nice to finish no. 1 and rub it in to other fanbases but dont think it will have as big of an impact on ice IMO; compared to healthy goalies and time/workload management.

Every team's schedule moving forward is freakin' brutal; goalies gonna get burned out - it is smart to rest our goalies

I want to agree but this is Hutchinson. He's fully capable of single-handedly costing us games.

 

[egd27]

Sure are a lot of people concerned about what Edmonton Oiler fans think and write. Why is that ?

 

[Randy Randerson]

Embarrassing. I actually went back and watched the last 10 minutes to see what I obviously missed. The only obvious penalty I could find was the Gally trip on Drais. They were whining about the McDavid pick, and Kassian being interfered with on a breakaway. In both cases, their guys ran into Leaf players. Not even close to being penalties. But let's also overlook the hook on Brodie at the blue line, McDavid's cross checks, and debate-able charge on Kassian. For the record, I was fine with all of them not being called.

Leafs are simply a better team.

they were also super vocal about us winning because of two lucky bounce goals but completely buried the lead on all of the posts, crossbars and great saves that Smith had to make. By every measurable, the Leafs were the far better team last game and if you played the same game a thousand times, the average result would be a safe regulation win by Toronto.

let's just do it again and let them cry about why.

MoneyPuck.com

 

[Randy Randerson]

Sure are a lot of people concerned about what Edmonton Oiler fans think and write. Why is that ?

Human nature, we get ragged on a lot for being impartial homers. This is the guilty pleasure kind of hockey talk entertainment.

 

[crump]

Embarrassing. I actually went back and watched the last 10 minutes to see what I obviously missed. The only obvious penalty I could find was the Gally trip on Drais. They were whining about the McDavid pick, and Kassian being interfered with on a breakaway. In both cases, their guys ran into Leaf players. Not even close to being penalties. But let's also overlook the hook on Brodie at the blue line, McDavid's cross checks, and debate-able charge on Kassian. For the record, I was fine with all of them not being called.

Leafs are simply a better team.

Even the “Gally trip” he was reaching for the puck and the Oiler ran into his stick. Borderline at best. The most obvious non-call of the night was McDavid’s 3 crosschecks in a row.

Doesn’t matter. It happens to us all the time. I hope the refs “miss” a lot of calls tonight again. The tears fuel my joy.

 

[Gary Nylund]

heh.

it's funny - you've now made it so we're not even allowed to discuss Toronto's large defensive advantage over edmonton.

You can discuss what you like and can post all the nonsense you like. Not allowed? LOL WTF?

Are you high?

 

[Judas Tavares]

Sure are a lot of people concerned about what Edmonton Oiler fans think and write. Why is that ?

Lol agreed. The rest of the Canadian teams' fanbase are so focused on us, it's like driving and looking in the rear view more than looking through the windshield. Such an inferiority complex for the rest of the country, and it stems from political things but also trickles down to hockey. Cause we are Toronto, everyone talks about us the most and they want a slice of it.

As someone who is a Toronto guy I can only laugh and just worry about my own city, unlike everywhere else.

 

[CanadasTeam]

I want to agree but this is Hutchinson. He's fully capable of single-handedly costing us games.

I little scary actually..

I recall last game he played where he got pulled after allowing 2 goals on just 3 shots? Then we wonder why the Sens beat up on us...

 

[bossram]

I’m curious if Dubas went down that road who is realistically available and what the price might be?

It seems like there aren't many goalies available honestly. Look at the 3rd goalie waiver wire carousel - no one's going to make it to the Leafs because everyone wants goaltending depth this season.

There are a few other teams that definitely want a 3rd reliable goalie (TOR, COL, EDM) yet none have really addressed that yet.

 

[NK94]

Andersen apologist - can you explain what you mean by this term?

We've dominated EDM head to head this season but if they're not even on the same tier as us, why is their record against the rest of the teams better than ours?

Nothing is Andersen's fault, ever. His 2 year regression is an illusion. Every soft goal against isn't his fault, neither is his .897 SV%. That .857 SV% stretch he had which played a role in the division lead nearly evaporating wasn't his fault even though the Leafs outplayed the Jets in 2 of the 3 games and only allowed 18 shots against Calgary. Saving tipped pucks is hard!


The Oilers are 7-0-0 against the worst team in the division with a +19 goal differential, and 14-13-1 with a -1 goal differential against everyone else. They’re basically a middle of the pack team that has destroyed Ottawa on a regular basis. Never mind the fact the only teams that have given up more goals than them within the division are Ottawa, Calgary, and Vancouver and they've given up the 9th most shots against in the league.

 

[Stephen]

Are they starting Hutchinson because they’re detecting anxiety levels in Campbell or something? The way he was talking after the win was a little intense so maybe they want to let him relax a bit. Starting Hutch ain’t it though.

 

[NK94]

I little scary actually..

I recall last game he played where he got pulled after allowing 2 goals on just 3 shots? Then we wonder why the Sens beat up on us...

That game was also the second half of a B2B with travel, and their 3rd game in 4 nights. If it wasn't for Andersen shitting the bed against the Jets, that game against Ottawa didn't need to be a "must-win".

 

[al secord]

Sure are a lot of people concerned about what Edmonton Oiler fans think and write. Why is that ?

Insecurities

 

[Mr Hockey]

Are they starting Hutchinson because they’re detecting anxiety levels in Campbell or something? The way he was talking after the win was a little intense so maybe they want to let him relax a bit. Starting Hutch ain’t it though.

I liked the fact he criticized himself the one game but when he did it again that set off a red flag with me... dunno whats going to happen if he has a couple bad games and we lose

 

[Stephen]

I liked the fact he criticized himself the one game but when he did it again that set off a red flag with me... dunno whats going to happen if he has a couple bad games and we lose

Yeah I mean we don’t expect Campbell to be Hasek every night and a shutout isn’t the benchmark. He wasn’t strong on one or two of the Edmonton goals but what’s important for him to feel good about is he made the money saves. Come on Jack, don’t beat yourself up unnecessarily.

 

[NK94]

It seems like there aren't many goalies available honestly. Look at the 3rd goalie waiver wire carousel - no one's going to make it to the Leafs because everyone wants goaltending depth this season.

There are a few other teams that definitely want a 3rd reliable goalie (TOR, COL, EDM) yet none have really addressed that yet.

Edmonton claimed Stalock off waivers. They’ve addressed their third goalie situation as far as I’m concerned.

Dubas should be all over guys like Reimer, Bernier, and Ullmark.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Not a single game this season is a must-win at this point, we could go .250 the rest of the way and comfortably make the playoffs. Does it really matter who we face? Price going god mode is just a big a risk as whatever McDavid or the Jets can throw at us.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Nothing is Andersen's fault, ever. His 2 year regression is an illusion. Every soft goal against isn't his fault, neither is his .897 SV%. That .857 SV% stretch he had which played a role in the division lead nearly evaporating wasn't his fault even though the Leafs outplayed the Jets in 2 of the 3 games and only allowed 18 shots against Calgary. Saving tipped pucks is hard!

I've never said any of this, perhaps you've confused me with someone else.

They're 7-0-0 against the worst team in the division with a +19 goal differential, and 14-13-1 with a -1 goal differential against everyone else. They’re basically a middle of the pack team that has destroyed Ottawa on a regular basis. Never mind the fact the only teams that have given up more goals than them within the division are Ottawa, Calgary, and Vancouver and they've given up the 9th most shots against in the league.

You can cherry pick all the numbers you want, bottom line is that two games from now we could be in virtual tie with EDM in the standings. Like it or not, the standings show these two teams to be roughly in the same tier.

If we're so much better they are, why aren't we further ahead of them in the standings?

 

[Stolie the Goalie]

Why not give Woll a chance? Maybe it will make team a strong defensive game in front of a rookie goalie. But there is a good chance McDrai light him up.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I liked the fact he criticized himself the one game but when he did it again that set off a red flag with me... dunno whats going to happen if he has a couple bad games and we lose

Campbell is a big question mark at this point for sure and how he'll react to adversity is definitely something to wonder about.

Yeah I mean we don’t expect Campbell to be Hasek every night and a shutout isn’t the benchmark. He wasn’t strong on one or two of the Edmonton goals but what’s important for him to feel good about is he made the money saves. Come on Jack, don’t beat yourself up unnecessarily.

Exactly.

Not a single game this season is a must-win at this point, we could go .250 the rest of the way and comfortably make the playoffs. Does it really matter who we face? Price going god mode is just a big a risk as whatever McDavid or the Jets can throw at us.

.250 rest of the way might get uncomfortable.

I'd rather not fact the Jets in the 1st round but other than that, I agree we shouldn't worry too match about the 1st round matchup. I do badly want to play MTL though but that's just cause I want revenge.

 

[al secord]

This isn't the stage to audition. Hutchinson has a winning record. Play the NHL goalie.

 

[RealisticLeaf55]

Gotta head to work. Hopefully the boys bring home a big win in regulation so I have more highlights to look forward to watching. Go Leafs Go!