Post-Game Talk: Oilers get ducked:

[Soundwave]

I dont know how much more obvious this could be.
Watch the game. Watch the bad puck management and the bad D zone coverage.

The MacTavish goal is shows as a HDSC equivalent to a shot being slammed into the Ducks goalies pads.
They are not equivalant.
Mactavish was allowed to stand in front of Pickard for 5 full seconds before scoring.
Show me a stat that details that.

Legit contending teams dont allow shit like that.
They make teams earn their scoring chances.
The Oilers have not been a team of that quality for over a month now and for someone to suggest thats all about goaltending is just silly.

They were 6th best for GA in January. The shit goaltending has just caught up to them. You can't run back ups forever and think it will never have any impact and the team should just ignore bad goals against and play like nothing has happened.

That's not how hockey works.

The fact is it's a miracle the team has even had the success it has with the Dollar Store goaltending they have. Colorado is still flirting with a 7th seed because they had bad goaltending to start the season, imagine if that never got rectified.

Yet here in Edmonton, this team is supposed to always be great despite having shit in net.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

The org are coach killers. Every coach except goalie coach. This roster was extremely flawed the moment the season started. Just took time for that to get more and more evident. I don't blame McDrai for rarely having commensurate goaltending or help down the lineup. This is a sorry stiched up roster of basically old players. I said this dog wouldn't hunt beyond one or two rounds this season. Said that before season started.

Really this is where I expected we'd be. With most forwards not even fitting or doing much.

Fortunately we've even had the benefit of Nurse rediscovering some game and Emberson coming in pretty solid.


The goaltending was shit.

I don’t think anyone thought J. Skinner would have been a failed experiment, Arvidsson’s health was more of the concern than his production this past summer. I agree with you on Emberson and Nurse being a bit better.

I skipped the first few months, started watching again around Christmas. I still don’t watch every game but these last 7-10 games, it just seems like they’ve regressed to their old ways of tuning out the coach and its right around that number of games. Maybe they’ve given up on the goaltending too, I don’t know but they’ve certainly slipped into ‘pretender’ status.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Literally you can't less contested than a shout-out attempt, and we were worse than goaltenders on shootout attempts tonight.

You can't say it's bad defense hanging our Goaltending out to dry when they're literally worse than the league average with literally no f***ing support.

You have a lot more patience than almost all the board who ignore that poster by now. You're arguing with somebody maintaining that we still haven't seen enough runway to decide that Dustbin Schwartz should be fired. yeah that guy. Trust me the talking points will be recycled for the next 20 posts with gibberish "not the goalies fault ever"

 

[foshizzle]

I bet the goaltenders find watching RNH play hockey deflating too

lol- true story

 

[guymez]

Do you not think that letting in another weak goal to go down in a game you’re been outplaying the team AGAIN, for the billionth time this season, wouldn’t wear on a team?

Nuge said it deflated them, Perry said they gave up one chance and it was in the back of the net. We’re not the only ones complaining.

In isolation, that one goal against is whatever. But you people on team “goaltending is fine” always act like it’s a single independent incident. It’s not. Our goalies let in softies every game and at some point that will have a psychological effect on the team.

No.
The players have a system. You pay attention to detail and make the smart play. You commit yourself to playing the sytem regardless.

Every team has setbakcs. Setbacks only define a team by virtue of how they handle them.
This is a vet group of players and if they are that fragile then this team is screwed. The are buckling like a cheap suitcase.
Very poor defensive reads...very poor puck management and on top of that this team has little to no secondary scoring.

Defenisve hockey is all about how committed you are to winning. Its that simple.
How do you expalin how fragile this veteran group is against a non playoff team like the Ducks?

BTW... the Oilers didnt outplay the Ducks. They had more puck possession but the Ducks made the Oilers earn their chances.
The Oilers did the opposite so when the Ducks had a chance it was a wide open uncontested shot.
The Oilers had contested shots and perimieter shots all game except on the PP.

 

[Drivesaitl]

I don’t think anyone thought J. Skinner would have been a failed experiment, Arvidsson’s health was more of the concern than his production this past summer. I agree with you on Emberson and Nurse being a bit better.

I skipped the first few months, started watching again around Christmas. I still don’t watch every game but these last 7-10 games, it just seems like they’ve regressed to their old ways of tuning out the coach and its right around that number of games. Maybe they’ve given up on the goaltending too, I don’t know but they’ve certainly slipped into ‘pretender’ status.

I said J Skinner was a bad addition in July. I said Arvid was a joke of a contract. People really minimized how much we would be missing with several young players no longer here and Kane out all season. My take on Pods was he was a complete NHL bust already. All we've seen from him is dead Jujhar Khaira with LESS toughness and fighting. Examples of players that shouldn't even be in the league and aren't good enough.

My take on the offseason, in real time, was that it was AWFUL. Losing your top prospects and replacing with tired old players from bad clubs. Just seriously that was such poor logic on the part of the team. its easy to cherry pick goals and pts playng on bad teams. Even Skinner was never going to be much here. I gave him 20 goals tops. I gave Arvid around a dozen. Figured Pods would be botching every scoring opportunity like always. Its not far off what I expected. Those posts are all there. I'm on record stating that Holloway, McLeod, Foegele would badly outscore the 3 forwards we brought in. This was expected.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

No.
The players have a system. You pay attention to detail and make the smart play. You commit yourself to playing the sytem regardless.

Every team has setbakcs. Setbacks only define a team by virtue of how they handle them.
This is a vet group of players and if they are that fragile then theis team is screwed. The are bucklign like a cheap suitcase.
Very poor defensive reads...very poor puck management and on top tof that this team has little to no secondary scoring.

Defenisve hockey is all about how committed you are to winning. It’s that simple.

People are human. This is a team that had high expectations coming into the year and were meeting them despite an obvious flaw in the roster.

What’s the point of trying if you know your goalie is going to let something in? When you go down in a game, you take risks. You change lines. You become desperate. Habits creep into your game to adjust. You lose momentum, and then things go for a toss.

This is a sport played by humans, not by AI or robots. If there was a perfect system that completely eliminated human error then no team would ever win the cup as every game would always be tied 0-0.

I have no clue how you look at measurable defensive statistics, see that they’re still in the top half of the league while at the same time comparing goaltending numbers to league averages and conclude that the defense is the issue. Or that goaltending isn’t.

Defense has been bad recently. Goaltending has been bad all year even with good defense. That’s the difference.

Occams razor.

 

[Soundwave]

No.
The players have a system. You pay attention to detail and make the smart play. You commit yourself to playing the sytem regardless.

Every team has setbakcs. Setbacks only define a team by virtue of how they handle them.
This is a vet group of players and if they are that fragile then this team is screwed. The are buckling like a cheap suitcase.
Very poor defensive reads...very poor puck management and on top of that this team has little to no secondary scoring.

Defenisve hockey is all about how committed you are to winning. Its that simple.
How do you expalin how fragile this veteran group is against a non playoff team like the Ducks?

BTW... the Oilers didnt outplay the Ducks. They had more puck possession but the Ducks made the Oilers earn their chances.
The Oilers did the opposite so when the Ducks had a chance it was a wide open uncontested shot.
The Oilers had contested shots and perimieter shots all game except on the PP.

How many contenders are expected to win a Cup with two back up goalies? You show me the team that's had year-in, year-out contention under those conditions.

Colorado won one time with a uber-loaded team built from like 10 great trades made by the GM, who still invested a 1st round pick into the goaltending position. They also got fairly lucky that Binnington got injured by Kadri, then Mike Smith was 40 years old and cooked by the 3rd round, and Tampa was running on fumes in the Finals. The next year where they had to play a more normalized roster they lost in round 1 to the Seattle Kraken (maybe the worst team to make the playoffs in the last 5 years).

 

[Shanahanigans]

You were one of the few other posters seeing and saying this in realtime. Those of us that did got blasted from the fanbase here for outing the offseason and how awful it was. It was clown management and decisions .

Why would a team lose several of its top prospects just to load up on tired retirement guys? We're seeing the results of that.

This postseason I have a harder time believing that the two pillars of this club are just going to be busting their backs for what this roster is. From start of season I was seeing frowns from Hyman, Nuge, Wondered what that was about but I figure they saw it as a beyond monumental task this season. You can't lose the youth and speed and jam players we lost and come out of it well.

It’s just common sense man. Would Florida trade Lundell or let him walk to sign let’s say, Brock Nelson if he was available? Retirement guys can help around the edges like Perry. They can’t be your entire secondary scoring.
Friedman said on his podcast this week that he wondered if the Oilers chemistry was off , as the Oilers main core was tight with the Foegele, McLeod, Holloway and Ceci- wit the addition of all these new guys the room has changed and I bet is a lot more quiet and less fun, as those guys were the goofballs. Just bad bad management.

 

[Messrules11]

Therein lies the potential divide in the room.

Draisaitl said they love playing in front of Pickard while allegedly saying something or ripping into Skinner after the Florida loss.

Tonight RNH throws Pickard under the bus.

Things that make you go hmmm.

Reading through the thread virtually every forward has been blasted, and rightfully so, except the guy who gets the free pass every f***ing time.
I have a bottle of champagne ready to go the day Nuge plays his last f***ing game as an Oiler.

 

[guymez]

People are human. This is a team that had high expectations coming into the year and were meeting them despite an obvious flaw in the roster.

What’s the point of trying if you know your goalie is going to let something in? When you go down in a game, you take risks. You change lines. You become desperate. Habits creep into your game to adjust. You lose momentum, and then things go for a toss.

This is a sport played by humans, not by AI or robots. If there was a perfect system that completely eliminated human error then no team would ever win the cup as every game would always be tied 0-0.

I have no clue how you look at measurable defensive statistics, see that they’re still in the top half of the league while at the same time comparing goaltending numbers to league averages and conclude that the defense is the issue.

Occams razor.

Its about not being a professional and being too fragile. So when things go sideways you quit.
Thats not a formula for winning at all.

There are so many examples of people and teams overcoming adversity.
To lose this game against a very mediocre team like the Ducks and give them chance after chance without contesting anything is not about being human.
Its about not being committed to the details required to win.

That frustrates me because it isnt a switch they can just turn on and change.
I have said before that maybe its because these games just dont mean as much as the playoffs.
The problem is though that creating good habits by locking down details allows players to lay the foundation for how they react when the games get dialed up. They react with confidence.

This team looks confused to me. Players arent in their proper positions and other players (ie Ekholm) are then trying to do too much. It creates confusion and solidifies poor decision making. You then start forcing the play and thats something we see Connor and Leon do all the time lately. I think thats partly why Leon made so many agregious mistakes in this game.

Over time it becomes that much harder to overcome. Thats where this team appears to be right now.
Changing goalies is fine but it wont solve the above problem.

Do you really think that a new goalie is going to fix all of the above?
Its an issue but its seperate to all the other issues that the skaters are creating for themsleves.
An elite goalie will help (that would help any team) but he wont be able to overcome and resolve all the issues this team currently has. An elite goalie isnt even an option for this team at this time. they just dont have the cap space.

You also have to consider how hard it is to play goal when you have no way of prediciting what the players in front of you are going to do.
It becomes a shit show.
Structure does help goaltenidng though. Thats been proven time and time again.

This team has such poor structure right now...very poor habits...its so obvious.
Maybe a few more energy players will help the team to get more emotionally invested. Maybe most of these issues are due in large part to the lack of emotion for these regualr season games.
I wish I knew.

It wont be easy to turn that around. Hard work and a commitment to detail is the only way out IMO.

I have taken some heat for this but I really think that this team is too soft....too vanilla.
Whats the difference between Henrique, Janmark, Brown, Arvidsson, Skinner, Kapanen, Perry et al?
Does one player really stand above any of the other players? Not really,...Skinner maybe scores more on 5x5 and the 40 year old Perry still has some game in him but none of those players really stands high above any of the others. Very vanilla.
They are also too old/slow.

They need some young physicality in the lineup. Some emotion. Thats one reason why losing Holloway was so critical for this team. Speed and physicality is badly needed.
This is also why I think that players like Fredric will help. Physicality has its place and creating emotion is maybe something this team really needs to get reinvested into what it takes to win.

 

[Soundwave]

Its about not being a professional and being too fragile. So when things go sideways you quit.
Thats not a formula for winning at all.

There are so many examples of people and teams overcoming adversity.
To lose this game against a very mediocre team like the Ducks and give them chance after chance without contesting anything is not about being human.
Its about not being committed to the details required to win.

That frustrates me and concerns me because it isnt a switch they can just turn on and change.
I have said before that maybe its because these games just dont mean as much as the playoffs.
The problem is though that creating good habits by locking down details allows players to lay the foundation for how they react when the games get dialed up. they react with confidence.
This team looks confused to me. Players arent in their proper positions and other players are then trying to do too much. It creates confusion and solidifies poor decisions. Over time it becomes that much harder to overcome. That where this team appears to be right now.
Changing goalies is fine but it wont solve the above problem.
You also have to consider how hard it is to play goal when you have no way of prediciting what the players in front of you are going to do.
It becomes a shit show.
This team has very poor habits...its so obvious.

it wont be easy to turn that around.

This happens to every team that has shit goaltending.

The 2006 team had plenty of games where they fell apart too in the regular season until Roloson finally clicked in game 1 versus Detroit.

 

[syz]

I'm starting to think both our goalies lack object permanence. I've never seen guys look so lost whenever the puck goes behind the net. Shots off the backboards, wrap arounds, cycling... the goalie may as well just skate to the bench whenever any of it happens.

 

[MessierThanThou]

So you try Rodrigue next game now, right? At minimum?

He's been pretty mid in the AHL. They need to get a goalie...have to be nearing the 500th post I've made with that phrase. That's the only solution, and not someone with an even worse GSAx than our tandem like Vanecek, 4giev, Mrzaek, Jarry, Grubauer, etc...

 

[MessierThanThou]

The script is actually the same in many of these games ... it's 1-1 or a tie game and then the goalie for the Oilers lets in a stinker and the team folds.

They are tired ... people underestimate how much a Finals run takes out of you.

The team just doesn't have it to fight back from bad goals any more. Tonight, Pickard let in a stinker on the 2nd and then the 3rd goal was a flukey one, the game was really over right there.

The team was 6th best in GA not that long ago, top 10 defensive team ... riding these goalies has finally hit the "f*** around and find out" stage ... the Oilers front office deserves this. They wanted to see how far they can push it with cheapo goaltending ... well congrats. You cratered the team's confidence and now they are out of sync and don't have any belief or confidence. I hope the front office is happy with themselves.

That's exactly the problem and it has been that exact problem since Game 1 of the season when Stu stopped like 60% of the shots he faced. People want to overthink it and blame the start of our downfall on anything but the goaltending because the media has brainwashed them into thinking that everything in net is just fine and dandy (the advanced stats highly f***ing disagree...I'd add my eye test as well, though that's subjective), but it's clear that every mistake becoming a goal has crushed their collective confidence and led to a self-doubt virus. So many players going cold and playing stupid at the same time after being such a dominant unit tells you it's more than just a bug in the locker room. Something is wrong with their confidence and I think it started with the goaltending, then snowballed into a litany of bad habits that are manifesting in every facet of their game.

Also, Knob's line blenders and random scratches are hurting as well. He's making more bizarre decisions than he was last season and if a goalie change doesn't turn it around, maybe a coaching change will. Serious change needs to happen ASAP, starting in net.

 

[guymez]

That's exactly the problem and it has been that exact problem since Game 1 of the season when Stu stopped like 60% of the shots he faced. People want to overthink it and blame the start of our downfall on anything but the goaltending because the media has brainwashed them into thinking that everything in net is just fine and dandy (the advanced stats highly f***ing disagree...I'd add my eye test as well, though that's subjective), but it's clear that every mistake becoming a goal has crushed their collective confidence and led to a self-doubt virus. So many players going cold and playing stupid at the same time after being such a dominant unit tells you it's more than just a bug in the locker room. Something is wrong with their confidence and I think it started with the goaltending, then snowballed into a litany of bad habits that are manifesting in every facet of their game.

Also, Knob's line blenders and random scratches are hurting as well. He's making more bizarre decisions than he was last season and if a goalie change doesn't turn it around, maybe a coaching change will. Serious change needs to happen ASAP, starting in net.

With all due respect the highlighted is just f**king ridiculous.

This issue is multifaceted and to think that advanced stats reveal everything is so incredibly shortsighted/myopic.

 

[MessierThanThou]

With all due respect the highlighted is just f**king ridiculous.

This issue is multifaceted and to think that advanced stats reveal everything is so incredibly shortsighted.

Well I should add that it is just a theory, but I think it's a highly compelling one that poor goaltending has crushed the confidence of this unit.

But you're also the most relentless defender of this tandem I've seen on here. It's pretty obvious, especially with the season being 75% over, that your take is beyond incorrect and you're quadrupling down on being wrong.

 

[VainGretzky]

Sorry to say Jackson screwed the team we gave away fast trending-up players for slow trending-down players , McLeod and Foegle and Holloway wore down the defense during games, we don't have that anymore huge blunder

 

[guymez]

Well I should add that it is just a theory, but I think it's a highly compelling one that poor goaltending has crushed the confidence of this unit.

But you're also the most relentless defender of this tandem I've seen on here. It's pretty obvious, especially with the season being 75% over, that your take is beyond incorrect and you're quadrupling down on being wrong.

Okay...so just to clear up a few things. I am not a relentless defender of this goalie tandem.
Thats just false.
I dont know how you can read my posts and arrive at that conclusion.
What I am doing is suggesting that all the problems this team has wont be resolved by just changing the goalie.

This goes much deeper than that.

What I really take issue with is this notion that anyone that doesnt agree with the 'poor goaltending is this teams biggest problem' narrative (and align themsleves with advanced stats that are flawed) is essentially an idiot that only parrots what the media says.

I detailed all the issues that i see with this team. Goaltending is one of them but its not the only one.

Here is a basic concept....structure in front of the goalie helps the goaltending...confusion in front of the goalie does not help the goaltending. It makes goalies worse because it isnt sustainable.
it creates bad habits in goalies because they start to guess more and more.
They can lose confidence over time...espcially less experienced goalies but even more experienced goalies cant sustain playing behind a shit show.
So changing goaltenders without addressing the shit show going on in front of the goalies is not a viable solution that is going to win this team a championship. It may be part of the solution (and mask the other issues for a while) but its not the entire solution. Its just not sustainable.

Thats essentailly my position.
There is a lot going on here. I would have liked to see the structure improve so we can get a more accurate sense of what the goaltending is all about. Many teams have won with solid structure and average goaltending and they didnt wait to implement the solid structure...they started with it because its foundational to winning a championship. A goalies job is much easier when there is predictability with the players in front of him. Thats the opposite of what the Oilers are doing right now.

Unfortunately this team has wasted 2-3 months of the season playing with little to no emotion and little to no commitment to details/structure at both ends of the ice.
So IMO if that doesnt change then they wont make it very far in the playoffs if they are relying on a goalie to fight through all of that and steal them games.

So again....so asking for better goaltending is justified but it wont be nearly enough over the long haul IMO.

 

[MessierThanThou]

Okay...so just to clear up a few things. I am not a relentless defender of this goalie tandem.
Thats just false.
I dont know how you can read my posts and arrive at that conclusion.
What I am doing is suggesting that all the problems this team has wont be resolved by just changing the goalie.

This goes much deeper than that.

What I really take issue with is this notion that anyone that doesnt agree with the 'poor goaltending is this teams biggest problem' narrative (and align themsleves with advanced stats that are flawed) is essentially an idiot that only parrots what the media says.

I detailed all the issues that i see with this team. Goaltending is one of them but its not the only one.

Here is a basic concept....structure in front of the goalie helps the goaltending...confusion in front of the goalie does not help the goaltending. It makes goalies worse because it isnt sustainable.
So changing goaltenders without addressing the shit show going on in front of the goalies is not a viable solution that is going to win this team a championship. It may be part of the solution but not the entire solution.

Thats essentailly my position.
There is a lot going on here. I would have liked to see the structure improve so we can get a more accurate sense of what the goaltending is all about. Many teams have won with solid structure and average goaltending and they didnt wait to implement the solid structure...they started with it because its foundational to winning a championship. A goalies job is much easier when there is predictability with the players in front of him. Thats the opposite of what the Oilers are doing right now.

Unfortunately this team has wasted 2-3 months of the season playing with little to no emotion and little to no commitment to details/structure at both ends of the ice.
So IMO if that doesnt change then they wont make it very far in the playoffs if they are relying on a goalie to fight through all of that and steal them games.

So again....changing the goalie is justified but it wont be nearly enough IMO.

OK, I'm glad to see you're in agreement about changing netminders. I may have been remembering your posts from when I was last on this board...which was a day or two after Game 3 of the Finals.

I'd like to see other moves too, like acquiring a Top-4 D-Man to stabilize things...but a goalie is an absolute necessity above all other needs with nothing even close, and it should've been fixed long ago.

 

[Soundwave]

Okay...so just to clear up a few things. I am not a relentless defender of this goalie tandem.
Thats just false.
I dont know how you can read my posts and arrive at that conclusion.
What I am doing is suggesting that all the problems this team has wont be resolved by just changing the goalie.

This goes much deeper than that.

What I really take issue with is this notion that anyone that doesnt agree with the 'poor goaltending is this teams biggest problem' narrative (and align themsleves with advanced stats that are flawed) is essentially an idiot that only parrots what the media says.

I detailed all the issues that i see with this team. Goaltending is one of them but its not the only one.

Here is a basic concept....structure in front of the goalie helps the goaltending...confusion in front of the goalie does not help the goaltending. It makes goalies worse because it isnt sustainable.
it creates bad habits in goalies because they start to guess more and more.
They can lose confidence over time...espcially less experienced goalies but even more experienced goalies cant sustain playing behind a shit show.
So changing goaltenders without addressing the shit show going on in front of the goalies is not a viable solution that is going to win this team a championship. It may be part of the solution (and mask the other issues for a while) but its not the entire solution. Its just not sustainable.

Thats essentailly my position.
There is a lot going on here. I would have liked to see the structure improve so we can get a more accurate sense of what the goaltending is all about. Many teams have won with solid structure and average goaltending and they didnt wait to implement the solid structure...they started with it because its foundational to winning a championship. A goalies job is much easier when there is predictability with the players in front of him. Thats the opposite of what the Oilers are doing right now.

Unfortunately this team has wasted 2-3 months of the season playing with little to no emotion and little to no commitment to details/structure at both ends of the ice.
So IMO if that doesnt change then they wont make it very far in the playoffs if they are relying on a goalie to fight through all of that and steal them games.

So again....so asking for better goaltending is justified but it wont be nearly enough over the long haul IMO.

I’m glad they’re not going balls to the wall for these goalies.

Enough with coverring up for them.

They’ve sheltered them enough, let the management get embarrassed the week of the trade deadline.

You want to run backup goalies forever as your tandem as a management group then you can sit and enjoy this shit stretch.

 

[guymez]

OK, I'm glad to see you're in agreement about changing netminders. I may have been remembering your posts from when I was last on this board...which was a day or two after Game 3 of the Finals.

I'd like to see other moves too, like acquiring a Top-4 D-Man to stabilize things...but a goalie is an absolute necessity above all other needs with nothing even close, and it should've been fixed long ago.

I agree...other moves are needed.
I would like to see more speed/size in the forward group. The group as it stands right now is too old/slow/small/vanilla. Easy to play against especially if the opposition is a bigger heavier team like Washington or Florida.

So I like the Frederic trade. I think he will help this team.

I would also like to see some size and stability on the back end. I like the thought of Oleksiak.
A big solid experienced defender that is hard to play against.

If they can find an experienced #1 (or more realisitcally a 1A) goalie I think that would be a good idea too.

More than anything though I would like to see this group eliminate this sloppy hockey they are currently playing and dedicate themsleves to playing detail orientated hockey.
Structured hockey.

Just think how easy it must be to draw up a coaching plan aginst this team which is sloppy in their D zone and poor at managing the puck at both ends of the ice.
I mean just pressure them a little and they are going to make a major mistake and thats exactly what happens. This team is so fragile that it doesnt take much at all to unravel them.

For example...even a basic aggresive forecheck in their D zone is enough...this team just gives up incontested chance after uncontested chance.

That has to change.
The forwards need to provide better puck support and consistently be where they are supposed to be in the D zone so that a Dman knows where they can go with the puck when they are pressured.
The forwards also need to be detailed about their coverage assignments in the D zone.
They are doing a brutal job of taking care of details and it puts way too much pressure on the D.

They also need to manage the puck better in the O zone especially just inside the other teams blueline...they cough up the puck way too much and it was evident in the game tonight as well.
They also need more size to help them win more puck battles and give them more of a heavy net front presence so that they arent playing as much of a perimeter game in the O zone.
i think that it will also help them create more uncontested shots something they are currently not doing much at all unless they are on the PP.

As I pointed out as well some added grit might also help get them more emotionally invested in games.
That might be part of the reason why they are just not dialed in and paying attention to details.

Anyway...there is a lot going on here and a lot to be resolved.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

Things to do this month.

 

[KCC]

Work ethic is a huge problem right now for this team. When they are moving their legs and competing hard, there's a reason why so many picked them to win the cup. The problem is they can't afford to take nights off. It also doesn't help that they are getting no scoring from pretty much anyone outside of Draisail lately. One domino fell and everything else has at once. But, I will say this. All I care about is if this team makes the playoffs and clicks when it matters. Just like last season. Minus Stu of course. We will see down the stretch what this team is made of when it truly is time.

 

[LemmyUlanov55]

Tell me you want to go golfing early this year without telling me. f***ing yikes.