Post-Game Talk: Oilers get ducked:

[Soundwave]

The goaltending wasnt shit in this game....just the oilers forwards and D were.

This is the NHL ... your goalie can't be giving teams a freebie charity goal every night. Aside from the fact that it's hard to get back, there's momentum, and you also are killing any trust your teammates have in you by doing that over and over again.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

The goaltending wasnt shit in this game....just the oilers forwards and D were.

That second goal just can't happen. No NHL goalie should be letting that in. Just absolute poison for the mood.

 

[foshizzle]

That second goal just can't happen. No NHL goalie should be letting that in. Just absolute poison for the mood.

Hopkins flat out said the 2nd and 3rd goal was deflating

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Also what are the odds the Oil kidnap Gibson before he leaves the arena?

He slipped past their forecheck. Probably injured himself too.

 

[iCanada]

The goaltending wasnt shit in this game....just the oilers forwards and D were.

Idk man. Any time your Goaltending is sub .800 they're shit basically no matter what.

Compare to some of the DoD teams - having goaltending this bad is unacceptable with how few chances we give up.

Take a look at this teams D core and goaltending stats, and tell me our current crew isn't getting absolutely eaten alive by bad goaltending because it's impossible to be worse defensively than those Eakins teams and this goaltenders weren't exactly world beaters;

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[guymez]

That second goal just can't happen. No NHL goalie should be letting that in.

The second goal was a screen. Not saying it was a good goal but its clear that Pickard didnt have full view of the puck.
It was most certainly not the reason they lost this game.

That is the only example of a potential bad goal as well...there are multiple examples of how the forwards and D were shit with their puck management and D zone coverage.

Draisaitl was one of the leaders for thew forwards in that dept as well.

Idk man. Any time your Goaltending is sub .800 they're shit basically no matter what.

Compare to some of the DoD teams - having goaltending this bad is unacceptable with how few chances we give up.

Take a look at this teams D core and goaltending stats, and tell me our current crew isn't getting absolutely eaten alive by bad goaltending because it's impossible to be worse defensively than those Eakins teams and this goaltenders weren't exactly world beaters;

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Read my intial post. It outlines why you cant rely on stats to tell the whole story of the game.
Of the Ducks first 9 shots on goal 6 of them were uncontested 10 bell chances.
That is a joke and it has nothing to do with the goalie.

Face it...this team is easy to play against. They dont make the opposition earn much of anything and a new goalie isnt going to solve that.
They also seem to have a hell of a time retrieving and breaking the puck out of their own zone.
The Ducks forecheck created all sorts of issues and did that rather easily.
The Oilers forwards dont seem to occupy support positions...are they positioning themsleves to flee the zone early? Proabaly.
It is definitely a problem.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Not much to say about the goaltending that hasn't already been said. It's bad, it's not going to get better, and the Oilers have no interest in addressing it this year.

I am concerned with the rest of the team though, they've completely fallen apart since January. We keep hearing the common refrain that "the team is sick" or "that player is sick", but team was badly declining in January and it has only snowballed since. Goaltending is a major deflating issue, but they've been dealing with that bullshit for a decade and now suddenly they can't? They all get back from the break and start playing like a pack of mental midgets to the point the coach is calling them fragile in the media? Not that the coach is exempt in any of this, his questionable lineup choices and favoritism has been a drag on this team all year.

This keeps up, they might actually get another coach fired

"They all get back" Is a misnomer. The team is missing Kane, Foegele, Holloway, McLeod every game this season because they're not here. They're also missing even place holders like Ryan, Brown, Henrique, Janmark etc who are just too old and done to be bringing much of anything.

Even starting the season with guys like Derek Ryan in lineup was a signpost of how lazy this org is in even making basic replacements.

Theres about 8-10 players on this team that in 2025 can't even play to the level that we would need to mount a contending team. List is easy to spot. WE don't have enough VALID useful players to even fill up a lineup. Sad but true.

Its back to where it was 5yrs ago with McDrai just expected to do everything and be god and Jesus on ice.

At least quietly probably much of the team, and even players that could be representing better, they aren't believing. See that from Ekholm, Nuge, Hyman.

This club doesn't even have 10 players giving it their all. Not even half the lineup.

 

[iCanada]

This is the NHL ... your goalie can't be giving teams a freebie charity goal every night. Aside from the fact that it's hard to get back, there's momentum, and you also are killing any trust your teammates have in you by doing that over and over again.

And even outside of the freebie - the other 5 goals shouldn't have been 5 goals. Maybe you can't blame them on a particular play, but NHL Goaltending should be stopping at least 60% of the high danger chances against.

The ducks had 7 high danger chances tonight. Both of our goaltenders were batting 30%.

 

[Louis Cypher]

We need some youthful exuberance. We look tired, old and slow.

 

[iCanada]

The second goal was a screen. Not saying it was a good goal but its clear that Pickard didnt have full view of the puck.
It was most certainly not the reason they lost this game.

That is the only example of a potential bad goal as well...there are multiple examples of how the forwards and D were shit with their puck management and D zone coverage.

Draisaitl was one of the leaders for thew forwards in that dept as well.


Read my intial post. It outlines why you cant rely on stats to tell the whole story of the game.
Of the Ducks first 9 shots on goal 6 of them were uncontested 10 bell chances.
That is a joke and it has nothing to do with the goalie.

Face it...this team is easy to play against. They dont make the opposition earn much of anything and a new goalie sint going to solve that.
They also seem to have a hell of a time retrieving and breaking the puck out of their own zone.

That's actually just strictly not true. This was the shot chart as published by the NHL after the first period;

They had one 10 bell chance. Maybe two if you count the Carlsson goal.

 

[Soundwave]

The second goal was a screen. Not saying it was a good goal but its clear that Pickard didnt have full view of the puck.
It was most certainly not the reason they lost this game.

That is the only example of a potential bad goal as well...there are multiple examples of how the forwards and D were shit with their puck management and D zone coverage.

Draisaitl was one of the leaders for thew forwards in that dept as well.


Read my intial post. It outlines why you cant rely on stats to tell the whole story of the game.
Of the Ducks first 9 shots on goal 6 of them were uncontested 10 bell chances.
That is a joke and it has nothing to do with the goalie.

Face it...this team is easy to play against. They dont make the opposition earn much of anything and a new goalie sint going to solve that.
They also seem to have a hell of a time retrieving and breaking the puck out of their own zone.

Team was 6th best in the league for GA and high in most defensive metrics not that long ago.

The goaltending started slipping and the team's confidence in the system is broke. So congrats Oilers front office. Hope the "savings" in goaltending so you could spend on the Arvidsson's and Connor Brown's of the world was worth it.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

The second goal was a screen. Not saying it was a good goal but its clear that Pickard didnt have full view of the puck.
It was most certainly not the reason they lost this game.

That is the only example of a potential bad goal as well...there are multiple examples of how the forwards and D were shit with their puck management and D zone coverage.

Draisaitl was one of the leaders for thew forwards in that dept as well.

It's a wrist shot off the LW boards by a LHS (so tight angle) from fair deep from in the zone...

Just no, it didn't deflect, and yes, it's not a clean look, but it's not like there was a ton of bodies in the way. Pickard needs to have that.

Asking the goalies to go b2b without a weak goal shouldn't be too big an ask.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

We need some youthful exuberance. We look tired, old and slow.

I'm sure the second and third pick we got from the Blues will help.

...Oh wait, we don't have the second anymore.

 

[guymez]

That's actually just strictly not true. This was the shot chart as published by the NHL after the first period;

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They had one 10 bell chance. Maybe two if you count the Carlsson goal.

That chart does not show uncontested shots.
Its incomplete.

It's a wrist shot off the LW boards by a LHS (so tight angle) from fair deep from in the zone...

Just no, it didn't deflect, and yes, it's not a clean look, but it's not like there was a ton of bodies in the way. Pickard needs to have that.

Asking he goalies to go b2b without a weak goal shouldn't be too big an ask.

Okay...lets put that one on the goalie. That still doesnt account for 59 minutes of the game where the skaters displayed poor puck management and bad D zone coverage.

 

[iCanada]

That chart does not show uncontested shots.
Its incomplete.

Uncontested or not - our goaltending after one period was literally worse than the league average save percentage in the shootout...

 

[guymez]

Uncontested or not - our goaltending after one period was literally worse than the league average save percentage in the shootout...

Uncontested or not?
Come on man...you are acting like they are one in the same.
They clearly arent.

No contending team allows a multitude of uncontested chances. This team does though.
If they dont clean that up they arent winning shit. I dont care who the goalie is.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Hopkins flat out said the 2nd and 3rd goal was deflating

Therein lies the potential divide in the room.

Draisaitl said they love playing in front of Pickard while allegedly saying something or ripping into Skinner after the Florida loss.

Tonight RNH throws Pickard under the bus.

Things that make you go hmmm.

 

[Soundwave]

Uncontested or not?
Come on man...you are acting like they are one in the same.
They clearly arent.

No contending team allows a multitude of uncontested chances. This team does though.
If they dont clean that up they arent winning shit. I dont care who the goalie is.

This season at some point is probably going to start to become the least of the problems this team has.

No superstar is going to commit another 8 years of what's left of their prime to this shit goalie tandem.

 

[Drivesaitl]

The one thing I notice is teams have changed how they attack the Oil.

At the start of the season, teams tried to chip past the defence and establish a forecheck, but they generally always won the race back and sent the puck back up ice. But now teams are noticing the Oil's transition defence is s**t, as the defence doesn't keep a tight gap and the forwards aren't back checking and applying pressure.

Thus teams have all the time in the world to pick the Oil apart. S**t goaltending just sinks it even more.

Teams are adjusting. Better dumps when they do and with proper pace crossing line. But many times also a chip and charge on the boards to come in with pace and recover pucks on halfboards. What we see at this time of year is younger teams getting sharper and honed, and basically better at NHL hockey than earlier in season, and adjustments and the Oilers getting slower and tired, fatigued as season drags on.

Another factor is that the several older players on this roster are simply turning pucks over a lot in middle ice or at opponent blue line thus pucks reverting back.

For half a season we were a lot more successful at zone outs, entry, and making solid rushes and establishing in opponent zone.

But after 60 games of getting hammered and having the same players have to be everything the well is running Drai.

Whats happening in Edmonton this season is oddly reminiscent of what happened to the Kings last season. First half of season Kings were hotter than hell and just running their systems. Teams adjusted and it just fell apart. They never recovered.

Of course McDrai are always good enough to be major factors but you gotta wonder how fatigued they are at the notion of having to be magic every season and post season. Frankly I don't know how Drai has had this much resolve this season.

 

[iCanada]

Uncontested or not?
Come on man...you are acting like they are one in the same.
They clearly arent.

No contending team allows a multitude of uncontested chances. This team does though.
If they dont clean that up they arent winning shit. I dont care who the goalie is.

Literally you can't less contested than a shout-out attempt, and we were worse than goaltenders on shootout attempts tonight.

You can't say it's bad defense hanging our Goaltending out to dry when they're literally worse than the league average with literally no f***ing support.

 

[Tarus]

Hopkins flat out said the 2nd and 3rd goal was deflating

I bet the goaltenders find watching RNH play hockey deflating too

 

[Duder54]

What the hell happened to this team over the past month? The wheels have come off completely.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

The second goal was a screen. Not saying it was a good goal but its clear that Pickard didnt have full view of the puck.
It was most certainly not the reason they lost this game.

Do you not think that letting in another weak goal to go down in a game you’ve been outplaying the other team AGAIN, for the billionth time this season, wouldn’t wear on you?

Nuge said it deflated them, Perry said they gave up one chance and it was in the back of the net. We’re not the only ones complaining.

In isolation, that one goal against is whatever. But you people on team “goaltending is fine” always act like it’s a single independent incident. It’s not. Our goalies let in softies every game and at some point that will have a psychological effect on the team.

 

[guymez]

Literally you can't less contested than a shout-out attempt, and we were worse than goaltenders on shootout attempts tonight.

You can't say it's bad defense hanging our Goaltending out to dry when they're literally worse than the league average with literally no f***ing support.

I dont know how much more obvious this could be.
Watch the game. Watch the bad puck management and the bad D zone coverage.

The MacTavish goal shows as a HDSC equivalent to a shot being slammed into the Ducks goalies pads.
They are not equivalant.
Mactavish was allowed to stand in front of Pickard for 5 full seconds before scoring.
Show me a stat that details that.

Legit contending teams dont allow shit like that.
They make teams earn their scoring chances.
The Oilers have not been a team of that quality for over a month now and for someone to suggest thats all about goaltending is just silly.

Goaltending is an issue but it wasnt the major issue many nights and this night is included. At least 4 (likely 5) of the 6 goals were due to defensive breakdowns and bad puck management leaving a Ducks player with an uncontested shot.
The Oilers players seem to believe that they can just outscore their mistakes by sending Connor and Drai over the boards.
Its a fantasy.

If they dont clean that up they arent winning in the playoffs.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Uncontested or not - our goaltending after one period was literally worse than the league average save percentage in the shootout...

Goalies are supposed to contest shots too. Just here we don't see it as much.

just trying to be funny.

Basically tonight was the old story of us not even getting saves on half of opponents quality chances. 5 bell or not isn't even the point. Make some stops. First one was good....

A lot else is going on this season too. Had to reflect on McD that almost everybody on team Canada had already won SC(s). I was always under the impression as well that it would be real hard to get it back from game 7 SC final and losing. A kind of heartbreak we can't even fathom. Especially the way they lost after coming back 3 games to tie series to make it one game for all the marbles. Gutted was the feeling even for the fans. For the players much worse.