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[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Pivot and fire.

Losing Ceci isn’t the difference between a world of trouble and a championship level defense. You keep on harping on that, but it’s complete nonsense.

Since we're using strawmen, keep defending Nurse's contract and his play.

 

[Oilslick941611]

so now we are back to square one...hoping and praying this thin D corps can hold together for a saviour at the deadline

unreal

People hate Ceci because was playing top 4 minutes and could handle it at 2ish mil, I imagine how pissed people would be at broberg playing bottom pairing minutes and not handling it at 4.6 mil.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

As a stop gap until we fill the #4 spot. I'm going to be optimistic and hope that before the playoffs, we have a better defenseman than Cody Ceci in that spot. If we can long term upgrade on the 2RD position, taking the side-step from VD to Emberson or Stecher is fine.

again, that's embarrassing during a Cup window a journeyman D making league min. is vying for a top 4 spot

 

[TB12]

Jimmi, the act is getting a little tired at this point. I refrained from saying anything after many, many posts of the same thing but lets take a breather here because it's infecting every thread and is unproductive.

Ignore button is your friend.

 

[nabob]

yes...Stetcher was #8 on the depth chart, now vying for a top 4 spot

He was probably 6. Battling with 6/7/8/9 for that 4th spot before moving Ceci.

Ceci was 7, Vinny was 8. Only difference now is we have a viable replacement for him and cap space to improve. Being mad about that seems odd

 

[K1984]

so now we are back to square one...hoping and praying this thin D corps can hold together for a saviour at the deadline

unreal

It's possible, maybe even likely that we're in that exact same position even with Broberg on the roster. Top 4 RSD was still a demand around here when we all thought Borberg would still be on the team.

Only difference is now we don't have the possibility of a $4.5M anchor that we have to work around. Broberg played all of about 3 games that were actually good his entire time here, it's silly to assume that keeping him would have just worked.

 

[Old Boys Club]

again, that's embarrassing during a Cup window a journeyman D making league min. is vying for a top 4 spot

Chia and Holland are idiots.

 

[Oilers]

He might very well be a great player in the league, but I’m willing to bet it wont happen in the next two years.

So true. He has potential no question, but I think people are forgetting that 90% of last year we thought he was a bust and were ready to move on from him.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Thing is, our PK was the same under Woodcroft, yet that was failing miserably before Knob came in. So I'm gonna lean towards it was a Systems Play and not because of some players.

Good point.

We are still a D man short though

 

[Oilslick941611]

so now we are back to square one...hoping and praying this thin D corps can hold together for a saviour at the deadline

unreal

Dude, nothing’s changed. Our D was bad last year as well. Broberg wasn’t moving the needle in any significant way on the team or not.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Of course I think that.

Surely that's not an unpopular opinion?

I think it is...Stetcher is a depth add
if he's playing big minutes, your team is in trouble

 

[McBooya42]

so now we are back to square one...hoping and praying this thin D corps can hold together for a saviour at the deadline

unreal

Same as we were before, which is actually some good work done by Stan considering what we just went through. Broberg was not the answer for 2nd pairing RHD, as he sucked at it. We would still be looking at finding a Ceci replacement regardless.

 

[Paralyzer]

Broberg camp's offer was 1 yr at $1.8M, so yeah he would have.

You guys don't have to apologize or make excuses for the team, sometimes idiotic failure is just infact that.

That's what 1 reporter said. They also said there was tons of teams wanting to offer sheet him, but that could also be a lie too. In the end, we don't know what his intentions were, but to pin blame on the team, or anything without concrete evidence, that is being short-sighted. We wouldn't have improved with Broberg here, and if he was to falter, we gambled on a bust (like we have numerous times in the past), and we lose out yet again on another prospect. It's more of an excuse to want to fault the blame on someone than just moving on and saying it is what it is.

 

[Yuke]

Ceci also isn’t a top 4 D, Stecher did fine when playing with nurse last year.

Stecher would have been destroyed against the Canucks. He is small

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Dude, nothing’s changed. Our D was bad last year as well. Broberg wasn’t moving the needle in any significant way on the team or not.

yes it's changed....we lost Ceci, Broberg and Desharnais...and replaced them with WORSE players

 

[ManofSteel55]

again, that's embarrassing during a Cup window a journeyman D making league min. is vying for a top 4 spot

TEMPORARILY. What would have been embarrassing would have been if we matched and Broberg couldn't handle top 4 RD minutes beside Nurse, as he hasn't shown to be any better than that journeyman. At least now, we can upgrade on that position. If we matched and gave that spot to Broberg, we were locked into him there regardless of his performance, with no cap space to do anything else.

You're acting like this is our playoff team. Chill out. This isn't Ken Holland where nothing is going to happen.

 

[oXo Cube]

The people melting down about the defense being worse are the group that should be lauding this decision the most. By not committing to Broberg here the team how has cap flexibility and tradable assets to address the problem.

The alternative is you play the equally unproven Philip on his off side and if the mostly likely result comes to pass and that doesn't work out the team is just screwed.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

The issue is not losing the players. It's that this was a self-induced situation that led them into inflationary market pricing on two young NHL players than exceeded their spent budget and risk threshold. They allegedly walked from a last deadline deal with these players for a retained Buchnevich to get caught with their pants down taking 2nd and 3rd lottery tickets.

Getting off the overpay cycle is a critical need for a team that's tendency and reality to buy high. Failing to see danger and lose cheap value young talent is a massive issue that was avoidable.
Now a hole at 2RD that they'll have to fill going back to the market likely at peak inflationary time of trade deadline.

 

[Broberg Speed]

They used the playoffs to boost their value and held out for the OS

Not a lie.

I would still like to know the dates of the Broberg 1.8M ask and the Holloway 1.1-1.2M offer. Were they before or after the playoffs.

Not good losing young NHL talent like this.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

He was probably 6. Battling with 6/7/8/9 for that 4th spot before moving Ceci.

Ceci was 7, Vinny was 8. Only difference now is we have a viable replacement for him and cap space to improve. Being mad about that seems odd

Ceci is a #6 easily
Vinny too
Stetcher is a journeyman d-man making league min

 

[TB12]

Breaking news... agent drops select facts to make his client look better.

It will suck when Samorukov Broberg breaks out on the Blues defense.

Like x 2

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Stecher would have been destroyed against the Canucks. He is small

Ceci and Nurse pairing may have also cost us the cup.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Same as we were before, which is actually some good work done by Stan considering what we just went through. Broberg was not the answer for 2nd pairing RHD, as he sucked at it. We would still be looking at finding a Ceci replacement regardless.

no it's not....the D corps is worse today than it was a week ago

that's a fact

 

[Canovin]

no it's not....the D corps is worse today than it was a week ago

that's a fact

Not a fact. We haven't seen Emberson in an Oilers uniform yet. Nurse can also regain form and internal growth

 

[nabob]

no it's not....the D corps is worse today than it was a week ago

that's a fact

No that’s your opinion. Based largely on a lack of knowledge about the players acquired.