It’s a 1 year bet. You can trade him next August with the worst case scenarios being to buy him out or waive him. He looked good on the biggest stage playing his off side and will be better on his natural side. That’s why STL offered him so much to pry him away from us.
He got an offer and refused to sign it, and instead wait for the summer. What else were they supposed to do?
Okay but to retool like you said and keep Broberg we will be a worse team. We can’t afford to keep Broberg and move Ceci for an upgrade.
thats only on the miracle chance Kane is out for the whole year which it doesn’t look like he should be
A one year high risk bet for a team that’s had a real good chance to win the cup this year and it might be our last GOOD chance.
So if he sucks this year and the Oilers decide to trade him, what kind of return do you expect for a guy making 4.6M playing third pair? I like Broberg at 1.5M, not at 4.6M and weakens our defensive depth.
Why do we have to bring bad UFAs into camp? Why not make a trade to improve the team?
Why not make a trade before the deadline, move out cap and get better at the same time. Perhaps we should be moving Kulak and Ceci. Why do we need to downgrade with Barrie and Schultz? Get better not worse. Maybe keep the youth with upside.
Because we are trying to win the cup this year in McDrais current contracts. Not trying to have a development year for some mid grade prospects.
That’s not how LTIR works completely. we can over go 10% over the cap in the offseason and that includes players on LtIR(cause they technically aren’t on it yet). Right now we are almost there as it is.Help me understand LTIR.
if Kane is LTIR to begin the season, doesn't it make sense to try to add another LTIR contract to increase the pool and ensure a financial safety net if/when Kane returns in season.
Example: Shea Weber $7,857,143 x 2 cap hit. Not ideal that it's 2 years but frankly with the dollar amount and Oil needing to find cap savings this year and frankly next, it gives a very solid 'legal' cap overage.
Furthermore, Utah no longer needs this salary for cap compliance. Removing it helps them to create cap space and move to in-season accrual pool. Looking at their d-corp, they might actually be able to utilize a Kulak to augment their left side that has 35 year old Ian Cole at 3LD. Oh... and Utah is in St. Louis's division
Net effect:
Oilers LTIR: $10,232,143 to start this season.
After Kane Activation LTIR Pool:$5,107,143
2025-26 Season:
Oilers LTIR: $7,857,143 (Shea Weber final year cap hit). Might actually help buffer to new Draisaitl contract?
Frees money to sign Broberg (no problem); Holloway (no problem); Broberg + Holloway (with need to trade Ceci at deadline). Remaining Available LTIR: $877,143 with team need to find Ceci upgrade.
Is this scenario possible under LTIR? Or I am as usual out to lunch?
(asking for two friends with initials JJ and SB... haha.)
So we are spending assets to downgrade our defence. Barrie is barely an NHL player anymore and Kulak is still better than Broberg. Spending assets to overpay a young player in hopes by the end of the year he is as good as Kulak was?
On top of him requesting a trade already. What are the chances he's still going to want to be traded in a year or two? I know some feel that things can be mended (it's a new management and coaching group after all), and I think Coffee could be really good for Broberg and his continued development. Maybe he's looking for that confidence (in him) from the team? 3rd pairing duties to continue to develop, and then see where we're at after two years.
Thanks, seemed too good to be true.
Broberg is already better than Kulak imo. Kulak is an extremely limited player who can't be counted on to move up in the lineup in case of injury and can't PK or contribute on the PP.
Because PTOs are a good chance to see where a younger player currently measures up against the guys you have on the fringe.
You don't make a trade because most rosters are set. And the types of difference making players on cheap contracts are less likely to be available before puck drop.
Except he isn’t? By no metric is Broberg a better player than Kulak and spending almost double Kulaks salary to “upgrade” on the bottom pair is some decade of darkness level stupidity.
Kulak is 30 and is a bottom pairing defenseman. There's no upside with that player. And if you need a player of his caliber at the deadline, it's not expensive to acquire.
We'd have to ship out Kulak for picks only if possible. Kane on LTIR is what 5.1? Plus Kulak's salary, gives us 3.25 approx in space after matching for Broby. We're hooped with Kane coming back though, so you'd have to trade off Ceci too. We wouldn't be able to find someone to replace him unless they're REALLY cheap - maybe Barrie at 1 - 1.5?
I’m not talking about just moving Kulak. Replacing Kulak and Ceci with Broberg and Stecher/Barrie is a large downgrade and uses all our possible cap unless Kane is gone for the entire season.
So we should invite bad players to camp to improve the hockey team?
Why not make a trade and un-set the roster so we can make the team better?
Mcdavid is going to be 28 going into this years playoffs. I’d like to believe we have 4-6 years left of being contenders if the team is managed properly and part of that is keeping good young players like Broberg, Savoie, Bouchard and Holloway etc to keep the contending window open longer.
