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Oilers are good at hockey again: Back in the plofs

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Czechboy said:
It really has been a hillarious turnaround that I don't think anyone predicted. It looked BLEAK.lol 31st and a .271 points percentage I think. I still don't think we are a cup favorite though. Need a few additions to the roster to bolster up it's D and tandem.

Plus, we aren't even a sure thing to make the playoffs yet... some of the teams we are in the wildcard race with are very good! Seattle is also on a heater!
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Yeah, it took a coach bump to get this team out of its unexpected slide. Woodcraft also had a similar effect until he didn't.

My take on the Oilers at the time was that they will somehow get out of it and make the playoffs, but I'd be lying if didn't have some doubts because that slide got a lot bigger than I expected before they finally righted the ship.

Ultimately, we are back to square one with the Oilers now which is back to the same questions I had as if the season never started. Is the team deep enough outside of McDavid and draisaitl to get to the top when we weed out half the league? Can the goaltending hold up when it counts most?

I agree with you that they are not a cup favourite.
 
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JianYang said:
Yeah, it took a coach bump to get this team out of its unexpected slide. Woodcraft also had a similar effect until he didn't.

My take on the Oilers at the time was that they will somehow get out of it and make the playoffs, but I'd be lying if didn't have some doubts because that slide got a lot bigger than I expected before they finally righted the ship.

Ultimately, we are back to square one with the Oilers now which is back to the same questions I had as if the season never started. Is the team deep enough outside of McDavid and draisaitl to get to the top when we weed out half the league? Can the goaltending hold up when it counts most?

I agree with you that they are not a cup favourite.
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The Oilers have done this with McDrai underperforming offensively by their standards and the PP not clicking.
 
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WetcoastOrca said:
PDO from Dec. 21st to Jan. 20th:


Canucks = 1.054
Oilers = 1.05

Even Strength PDO:

Canucks = 1.059
Oilers - 1.05

This should silence the Oiler PDO brigade for a while!
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The difference is no Oiler fans expect this to be sustainable, because its not.
 
Fishy McScales said:
The Oilers have done this with McDrai underperforming offensively by their standards and the PP not clicking.
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This is just the amazing thing about McDavid and whatvwe expect from him. 60 points in 40 games, and this is a "underperforming" year.

Absolutely he has to stay healthy to make noise in the playoffs. Whether he's at his best or not, he remains the straw that stirs the drink.
 
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JianYang said:
This is just the amazing thing about McDavid and whatvwe expect from him. 60 points in 40 games, and this is a "underperforming" year.

Absolutely he has to stay healthy to make noise in the playoffs. Whether he's at his best or not, he remains the straw that stirs the drink.
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I meant specifically during this last stretch of winning.

These are not the PP-merchant Oilers that are racking up wins by supernova McDrai outscoring defensive woes.

They're stingy and are getting depth scoring. Yesterday's BoA heroes were McLeod and Gagner while McDrai had 0 points. I love it.
 
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Fishy McScales said:
I meant specifically during this last stretch of winning.

These are not the PP-merchant Oilers that are racking up wins by supernova McDrai outscoring defensive woes.

They're stingy and are getting depth scoring. Yesterday's BoA heroes were McLeod and Gagner while McDrai had 0 points. I love it.
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It's great now but when you get to the mid rounds and weed out the other teams, that's not going to be a recipe for success, and the same questions and frustration will be expressed in the off season if it doesn't work.


That's the measure for them into year 9 of the McDavid era... it's about getting to the promised land and what they are going to do to get there.
 
JianYang said:
It's great now but when you get to the mid rounds and weed out the other teams, that's not going to be a recipe for success, and the same questions and frustration will be expressed in the off season if it doesn't work.


That's the measure for them into year 9 of the McDavid era... it's about getting to the promised land and what they are going to do to get there.
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Depth scoring isnt a recipe for success?

Since they switched coaches, they are 3rd in the league in GA per game.

While only sporting a 1.02 PDO.
 
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JianYang said:
It's great now but when you get to the mid rounds and weed out the other teams, that's not going to be a recipe for success, and the same questions and frustration will be expressed in the off season if it doesn't work.


That's the measure for them into year 9 of the McDavid era... it's about getting to the promised land and what they are going to do to get there.
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I'm a bit confused, you're saying the Oilers winning without relying on McDrai is somehow a weakness because teams in the playoffs are better?
 
JianYang said:
It's great now but when you get to the mid rounds and weed out the other teams, that's not going to be a recipe for success, and the same questions and frustration will be expressed in the off season if it doesn't work.


That's the measure for them into year 9 of the McDavid era... it's about getting to the promised land and what they are going to do to get there.
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We are generally agreeing with one another. However, you are trying to describe us as a 2 man team (to my eye) and that's not accurate at all.

However, maybe I'm wrong on that.. I had one question:

Once we get to playoffs and eliminate teams and only have strong teams left as you say.

Who would still win a Cup without their 2 best players?

Avs without MacK and Makar?
Dallas without Heisk and Oeittinger?
Nucks without Hughes and Demko?
Knights without Pietrangelo and Eichel?
Jets without Scheiffele and Helle?
Leafs without Matthews and Nylander?
B's with Pasta and McAvoy?

Note: some may disagree with who I'm saying are the best 2 players here.. so feel free to replace them with whoever you think are the best 2 players on the team and ask the same question.

So, I agree we need a few more guys and need to bolster up. I don't think we are currently a cup contender but if the litmus test is that you have to win without your 2 best players... then who would do that in the playoffs in 2024? One example please?
 
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WetcoastOrca said:
PDO from Dec. 21st to Jan. 20th:


Canucks = 1.054
Oilers = 1.05

Even Strength PDO:

Canucks = 1.059
Oilers - 1.05

This should silence the Oiler PDO brigade for a while!
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We get it - you don't understand statistics.

Literally no one thinks the Oilers will play 100% hockey sustainably, yet you think your team will continue getting more puck luck than a team that's playing 100% hockey?
 
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JianYang said:
It's great now but when you get to the mid rounds and weed out the other teams, that's not going to be a recipe for success, and the same questions and frustration will be expressed in the off season if it doesn't work.


That's the measure for them into year 9 of the McDavid era... it's about getting to the promised land and what they are going to do to get there.
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Depth scoring and being stingy on defense are not going to be a recipe for success?
 
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It's impressive after so many wins in a row and 21 wins in 24 games that they are still doing the little things well and battling hard to win games. I am sure they are due for a bad game or a sluggish performance but they have played some great hockey for a long stretch. I have never seen any Oilers team ever play this well including the 1990 or 2006 Oilers. Whatever systems or defensive strategies the Oilers have implemented with the new coaches, quite the transformation in play style.
 
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Zenos said:
Aside from that dynamic rookie season, Nuge has never really been a “driver”.

Passenger doesn’t feel fair though either. He’s a great complementary forward who can pretty much plug and play with anyone on any line.
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I agree he can essentially be played anywhere he is just a little lacklustre for me at times. I found him fairly invisible lately

It's funny when things are going good RNH is a fan favourite but when things take a turn I find he is one of the first players we turn on. He is just pure vanilla
 
Not sure signing Perry is good for chemistry..But their lockeroom us pretty mature at this point so probably not a problem.
 
Fishy McScales said:
I meant specifically during this last stretch of winning.

These are not the PP-merchant Oilers that are racking up wins by supernova McDrai outscoring defensive woes.

They're stingy and are getting depth scoring. Yesterday's BoA heroes were McLeod and Gagner while McDrai had 0 points. I love it.
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During the streak the Oilers have been a very average 20.0% on the pp. But more to the point they are not getting many calls. They have averaged 2.69 pp/60 over those 13 games. That would be 24th in the league over that period. Pittsburgh has averaged 3.85 pp/60 and Colorado is at 3.67. If they were getting the same number of pp's per game as last year and scoring at the same rate they would have scored 7 more pp goals in those 13 games and McDavid probably has 6 more points.
 
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