Offseason Roster Discussion part 3

[Hawkaholic]

I feel exactly the opposite. So many new faces and Hawks on paper are a playoff team, and it's been a while since I could say that. I may even bite the bullet and subscribe to Center Ice again.

Agreed, Im far more interested this year than the past few. I just hope that interest stays throughout most of the year, and this team is actually exciting to watch. I have my doubts though.

 

[BK]

He had one stretch where he was great and around 55% I think but I want to say it was for like 30 or so games. The rest of his career he’s been bad and more like 45%.

He is 47.1% for his career. He can win draws.

 

[Kevin Musto]

He is 47.1% for his career. He can win draws.

You tell em, BK!

 

[BK]

You tell em, BK!

Easy Musto. Strome has not been close to as good as he should be.

 

[Giovi]

He is 47.1% for his career. He can win draws.

That is not good. Well below average.

 

[BK]

That is not good. Well below average.

47.1% is fine.

 

[Pertti]

47.1% is fine.

What is bad then?

Less than 50% bad, Plus 50% good, easy line.

 

[RayP]

He is 47.1% for his career. He can win draws.

47% for a player as flawed as he is is not good.



What % do you consider good and bad?

 

[BK]

47% for a player as flawed as he is is not good.



What % do you consider good and bad?

I consider 46% and up fine but you have to get shit done in other areas. Face-offs have value but I don’t give them that much compared to some but we are talking about face-offs alone.

 

[BK]

What is bad then?

Less than 50% bad, Plus 50% good, easy line.

Bad is sub 46%.

 

[Styles]

Less than 40% is bad although faceoffs don’t mean anything unless you’re in the defensive zone or on the PP. The puck is willingly given up to the other team so much throughout the game. What’s the difference if you lose a draw in the neutral zone or dump the puck for a change. Nothing.

 

[BobbyJet]

Less than 40% is bad although faceoffs don’t mean anything unless you’re in the defensive zone or on the PP. The puck is willingly given up to the other team so much throughout the game. What’s the difference if you lose a draw in the neutral zone or dump the puck for a change. Nothing.

This is exactly why faceoff percentage is yet another flawed stat. All faceoffs are not equal. Far from it.

It would be nice if Strome's value was increased by winning key faceoffs but that is not the case.

 

[ChiHawk21]

i wish there was a way to get DeHaan+ for Leddy from Detriot. Like DeHaan and Nylander for Leddy.

McCabe-Jones
Leddy-Murphy

 

[Mrfenn92]

i wish there was a way to get DeHaan+ for Leddy from Detriot. Like DeHaan and Nylander for Leddy.

McCabe-Jones
Leddy-Murphy

Easy yes from us. Easy no for Detroit though
Would be great though

 

[RayP]

i wish there was a way to get DeHaan+ for Leddy from Detriot. Like DeHaan and Nylander for Leddy.

McCabe-Jones
Leddy-Murphy

I’d be fine bringing Leddy back but it’s going to cost more than Nylander and a cap dump. Nylander stinks.

 

[ChiHawk21]

I agree its not enough just dont know what we could give without gutting the prospect pool even more.

 

[Muffinalt]

I agree its not enough just dont know what we could give without gutting the prospect pool even more.

We should see by mid season. If we are close to being a legit contender for at least a deep playoffs, I wouldnt mind trading one of the higher d prospects with Nylander/Borgstrom/Strome.

For Leddy or whoever the missing piece is.

 

[Pez68]

Why do we want Leddy on this team, again?

 

[Hattrick Kane]

If you want a defenseman, trade for Lindholm at the deadline. Mitchell and a first and something else.

That’s a good ass defense right there.

 

[ChiHawk21]

Why do we want Leddy on this team, again?

because hes a steady top 4 d man with a good transition game and can provide offense to a d core that lacks that. Hes also on a 1 year deal expiring after this year and plays the left side in which we are lacking top 4 quality defenseman. He could also quarterback a powerplay unit. Also he should be available and on a team that can take back money.

So a bunch of reasons.

 

[Pez68]

because hes a steady top 4 d man with a good transition game and can provide offense to a d core that lacks that. Hes also on a 1 year deal expiring after this year and plays the left side in which we are lacking top 4 quality defenseman. He could also quarterback a powerplay unit. Also he should be available and on a team that can take back money.

So a bunch of reasons.

26 points in 82 games
21 points in 60 games
31 points in 56 games.

Those numbers don't exactly scream "offensive catalyst" to me. His advanced stats have also been some of the worst on the team over the last few seasons. To go along with his +- consistently being a minus and near the bottom of the team. When I've watched the Islanders, he's only stuck out to me for the wrong reasons.

Nick Leddy is not very good in this day and age.

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

I consider 46% and up fine but you have to get shit done in other areas. Face-offs have value but I don’t give them that much compared to some but we are talking about face-offs alone.

Agree that "around the middle" is OK when you consider that the difference between 47% & 50% is winning about 1 more face-off every 3 games.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Stromer looking right at home in Chicago

 

[coolhand]

We're nearing the start of camp and Dylan Strome has yet to be traded.

Feeling good

I think the Hawks are keeping Strome as insurance if Toews can't go. I think, if Toews looks good theN Strome is trade bait

 

[BobbyJet]

Stromer..... LOL