Offseason GDT III

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Mersch will surprize some people in here and i so can't wait till he does.

I like Mersch and think he'll be a regular with the team in the not so distant future, but I also don't have unrealistic expectations from him.

Toffoli and Pearson didn't surprise us in their first rookie seasons with the Kings. I somehow doubt Mersch will do something that is more impressive than those two.
 
I am not a big King fan, but he doesn't ruin the top 2 lines. He is good at cycling the puck and creates opportunities. I agree Mersch is an unknown, but with Carter and Toffoli on the line, and his knack for going to the front of the net like Lucic, he can probably pot 10 goals.

With respect to the third line, I would consider having AA center that line with Pearson and Brown. I could see us getting at least 10 by AA and possibly 15-20 from Pearson. Brown, not sure, but he is good for up to 10 per season lately. Not bad for a third line.

No he doesn't. Biggest myth about the Kings. DK has become absolutely useless on offense.
 
players with NMC have to be protected. The player is immune from being exposed as the team has to protect him. It's not like the team gets an extra protection spot because they have players with NMC.

Im pretty sure guys with NMCs don't have to be protected whereas guys with NTCs do.... So the NTC will be useless in the expansion draft if the Aces decided to take say Dustin Brown... Per LeBrun
 
I like Mersch and think he'll be a regular with the team in the not so distant future, but I also don't have unrealistic expectations from him.

Toffoli and Pearson didn't surprise us in their first rookie seasons with the Kings. I somehow doubt Mersch will do something that is more impressive than those two.

I am not saying he going to set the nhl on fire next year but i can see him getting pp time and 2nd line mins by the end of the year. (this is assuming lucic is gone) 10-12 goals He is one of the few kings that will go to the dirty areas to score and for that reason i think he will get the job done
 
I am not saying he going to set the nhl on fire next year but i can see him getting pp time and 2nd line mins by the end of the year. (this is assuming lucic is gone) 10-12 goals He is one of the few kings that will go to the dirty areas to score and for that reason i think he will get the job done

He'll be the adequate replacement for Dwight King. I see him having the same strengths and playing the same exact role. I think his skating will hold him back, and no, this isn't a similar case as Luc or Toffoli because those guys are natural goal scorers. Mersch is more of a presence who can create space.

I may be more eager to see what Auger could do. I think he can be competing for a roster spot as well this training camp.
 
He'll be the adequate replacement for Dwight King. I see him having the same strengths and playing the same exact role. I think his skating will hold him back, and no, this isn't a similar case as Luc or Toffoli because those guys are natural goal scorers. Mersch is more of a presence who can create space.

I may be more eager to see what Auger could do. I think he can be competing for a roster spot as well this training camp.

well looking at his career stats hes scored over 20 goal a year for the last 4 years This is in less games then a nhl season I think hes got a knack for being in the right place at the right time.
 
The Kings need a Veteran Defender on the back end more than anything, possible two.

All the speed in the world does nothing if your defenders can't retrieve the puck or make an outlet pass.
 
well looking at his career stats hes scored over 20 goal a year for the last 4 years This is in less games then a nhl season I think hes got a knack for being in the right place at the right time.

He's a good scorer in tight, he'll just have to stay there. FWIW, DK put up very similar numbers as a 21 year old in Manchester, so it doesn't always mean much. I expect 10-15 goals out of the guy, just like Dwight. Anything else would be a bonus.
 
He's a good scorer in tight, he'll just have to stay there. FWIW, DK put up very similar numbers as a 21 year old in Manchester, so it doesn't always mean much. I expect 10-15 goals out of the guy, just like Dwight. Anything else would be a bonus.

Unless Mersch receives steady PP time, he will struggle even to score 10G. His game is really slow 5V5, it's a glaring issue.

He is somehow slower than Dwight King. Might be due to indecisiveness at the NHL level.
 
Unless Mersch receives steady PP time, he will struggle even to score 10G. His game is really slow 5V5, it's a glaring issue.

He is somehow slower than Dwight King. Might be due to indecisiveness at the NHL level.

i am willing to bet if mersch gets even ice time he would out score king by at least 10 points. King does not have a nose for the net He does not go to the dirty area to score. Also would like to be clear your saying now Mersch is slower then King when previously you called him a better skating king So which is it u have me confused:help:
 
Mersch is all about in front of the net. Period. If he plays with two other guys that are good at getting the flow of play to that area, he will succeed.
 
I was reading an article about the Ducks free agents and Jamie McGinns name crossed my mind. If Lucic doesn't re sign I see Lombardi going after a player like this.

Any other free agents that have speed, skill and grit come to mind?
 
Mersch is all about in front of the net. Period. If he plays with two other guys that are good at getting the flow of play to that area, he will succeed.

He struggles to get net presence at NHL speed, that's the problem. By the time he arrives there, the puck is already heading the other way.

His 5 on 5 play has to get (quicker), for him to be effective. If Sutter does stick Mersch on the PP and leaves him there, I could see him being really effective.

I Doubt Sutter would do that unfortunately
 
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Im pretty sure guys with NMCs don't have to be protected whereas guys with NTCs do.... So the NTC will be useless in the expansion draft if the Aces decided to take say Dustin Brown... Per LeBrun

you have that backwards. I don't think that is from Lebrun
 
I was reading an article about the Ducks free agents and Jamie McGinns name crossed my mind. If Lucic doesn't re sign I see Lombardi going after a player like this.

Any other free agents that have speed, skill and grit come to mind?

Versteeg is sort of like that. I wouldn't say no as long as the price was reasonable.

Doughty, Muzzin, Martinez, McNabb, Greene, Scuderi, Forbort, Gravel. That's 8 defensemen. I think Gravel can still be sent down, and Scuderi can be stashed down in Ontario if need be. Or, just keep 8 defensemen around, and have Scuderi as the 8th guy. I doubt he'll complain.

If you can't sign Lucic because you can't trade Brown or Gaborik, and Toffoli and Pearson need new deals after next year, a couple guys on the McGinn/Versteeg level, on cheaper 1/2 year deals, could be a way to go. Even signing a Dman for 5+ million for multiple years eats away at Toffoli and Pearson money.
 
I was reading an article about the Ducks free agents and Jamie McGinns name crossed my mind. If Lucic doesn't re sign I see Lombardi going after a player like this.

Any other free agents that have speed, skill and grit come to mind?

I would be happy with a McGinn or Santorelli signing, but all I really want is for Dean to lock down a mid pairing defenseman. if the Kings could put together a solid defensive corps I think everything else will fall into place
 
Versteeg is sort of like that. I wouldn't say no as long as the price was reasonable.

Doughty, Muzzin, Martinez, McNabb, Greene, Scuderi, Forbort, Gravel. That's 8 defensemen. I think Gravel can still be sent down, and Scuderi can be stashed down in Ontario if need be. Or, just keep 8 defensemen around, and have Scuderi as the 8th guy. I doubt he'll complain.

If you can't sign Lucic because you can't trade Brown or Gaborik, and Toffoli and Pearson need new deals after next year, a couple guys on the McGinn/Versteeg level, on cheaper 1/2 year deals, could be a way to go. Even signing a Dman for 5+ million for multiple years eats away at Toffoli and Pearson money.

I don't think you'll be able to get McGinn or Versteeg on 1 or 2 year deals. McGinn for sure will get a 4-5 year deal somewhere.
 
I don't expect Mersch to set the world on fire, but let us not forget that Dwight King looked like complete trash in his first call-up and then was not having as good a season statistically in the AHL when called up in 2012 as he did the year prior.

Problem here is I am comparing him to Dwight King in the hopes he is as effective a player (sans last season) as King...and I don't want King anywhere near the top lines.
 
I don't expect Mersch to set the world on fire, but let us not forget that Dwight King looked like complete trash in his first call-up and then was not having as good a season statistically in the AHL when called up in 2012 as he did the year prior.

Problem here is I am comparing him to Dwight King in the hopes he is as effective a player (sans last season) as King...and I don't want King anywhere near the top lines.

King is one of the type of players that need to be removed from the roster to help Sutter. Again, Sutter is prone to awarding ice time at ES and PP to guys who cannot produce when the guys who can aren't. Instead of a player like King, who has zero upside and is most comfortable facing the boards with the puck a player like Versteeg needs to be there. Versteeg can and has produced at the NHL level when given the ice time. Same can be said for not re-signing Lewis. Good 3rd or 4th line center but he is constantly awarded ice time due to hard work and he cannot produce when he gets the minutes. Dean needs to remove these Sutter grit players from the roster so he plays the guys who can score points. Still would not surprise me to see Ladd signed if Lucic cannot b signed. Ladd can play the PK and the PP, seems like the type of player Lombardi and Sutter want on the roster. Way too early though, plenty of time for deals to be made and we all know Dean usually pulls off deals nobody saw coming.
 
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