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Kingsfan1 said:
The system is what needs to be changed the most. If the system is changed then maybe Sutter wont play Versteeg on the 4th line or King on the 1st and maybe we will see a youth movement . I dont remember the last time i saw a King breakaway. Im pretty damn sure that if there were any stats of this sorta thing the Kings would be dead last.
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Lewis, Toffoli, Carter and Person get a decent amount of break always. Problem is Lewis gets the most but he could never convert on them.
 
Some of the MSG network suggesting Rangers are looking to make some big changes, that only a handful of players are untouchable. After going thru the players with contracts that could be moved, they said RFA's Chris Kreider and Kevin Hayes most likely would get moved.
Not sure what it would cost but Kreider just turned 25, a decent LW and might be a good fit in the kings top 6
 
deeshamrock said:
Some of the MSG network suggesting Rangers are looking to make some big changes, that only a handful of players are untouchable. After going thru the players with contracts that could be moved, they said RFA's Chris Kreider and Kevin Hayes most likely would get moved.
Not sure what it would cost but Kreider just turned 25, a decent LW and might be a good fit in the kings top 6
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Don't need to spend assets on wings.
 
Its a shame Girardi's a shell of his former self, he'd make a decent Greene replacement if he was still in his prime. M. Staal also seems to be declining rapidly.
 
deeshamrock said:
Some of the MSG network suggesting Rangers are looking to make some big changes, that only a handful of players are untouchable. After going thru the players with contracts that could be moved, they said RFA's Chris Kreider and Kevin Hayes most likely would get moved.
Not sure what it would cost but Kreider just turned 25, a decent LW and might be a good fit in the kings top 6
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25 years old, still don't know what his ceiling is, fast skater, back to back 20 goal seasons, where do I sign up?
 
kingsholygrail said:
lol Reminds me of the Kovalchuk/B. Richards sweepstakes.
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It's crazy, there's no cap space....

King/Kopitar/Gaborik
Kempe/Carter/Toffoli
Pearson/Stamkos/Brown

????/Doughty
Muzzin/Martinez

King gets stuck with Kopitar so '76ers will melt down. Kopitar is going to get the toughest defensive matches.... King will get put with him.

Work Kempe in with Carter/Toffoli, 2 guys that are established and help things along.

Stamkos is the new guy and gets stuck with Brown. Sucks for the new guy.

Pick up a top 4 D at the deadline... not Scuderi/Schenn level... Could get LHD to pair with Doughty or move Martinez to the LHD and go for a RHD.

It would probably take Stamkos signing slightly under 10 and seeing as how it's not going to be an 8 year contract that may not be enough.

As far as attracting Stamkos.... He's spent a lot of time in warm weather Florida where he hasn't had to deal with the Canadian Hockey Media.... Think the guys could sell him on the beach?
 
Trolfoli said:
It's crazy, there's no cap space....

King/Kopitar/Gaborik
Kempe/Carter/Toffoli
Pearson/Stamkos/Brown

????/Doughty
Muzzin/Martinez

King gets stuck with Kopitar so '76ers will melt down. Kopitar is going to get the toughest defensive matches.... King will get put with him.

Work Kempe in with Carter/Toffoli, 2 guys that are established and help things along.

Stamkos is the new guy and gets stuck with Brown. Sucks for the new guy.

Pick up a top 4 D at the deadline... not Scuderi/Schenn level... Could get LHD to pair with Doughty or move Martinez to the LHD and go for a RHD.

It would probably take Stamkos signing slightly under 10 and seeing as how it's not going to be an 8 year contract that may not be enough.

As far as attracting Stamkos.... He's spent a lot of time in warm weather Florida where he hasn't had to deal with the Canadian Hockey Media.... Think the guys could sell him on the beach?
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I never want to see him there ever again.
 
deeshamrock said:
Some of the MSG network suggesting Rangers are looking to make some big changes, that only a handful of players are untouchable. After going thru the players with contracts that could be moved, they said RFA's Chris Kreider and Kevin Hayes most likely would get moved.
Not sure what it would cost but Kreider just turned 25, a decent LW and might be a good fit in the kings top 6
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I think Pearson can be just as good as Kreider if he gets an actual opportunity to show what he can do away from boat anchors named Shore, Lewis, Brown, or King.

You want a Lucic replacement then it's Hayes. I'd rather save assets though and trade after a defenseman if the Kings are going to make any more trades.
 
It's a shame the way it's all timed out. Even the 2nd Cup was won on Brown's previous contract. So since his big contract kicked in, the Kings have next to nothing to show for it, even on an individual player basis. Had the new contract been signed after the 2014 season, instead of the 2013 season, who knows how different it is. Maybe it's shorter. Maybe it's a smaller hit. Maybe it doesn't exist at all.

Brown will have a weird legacy with the Kings. First guy to touch the Cup as a King, and then did it again. Community guy, all that. He also had the captaincy taken away, and most likely has no way of ever living up to his current contract. That contract will also cost the Kings one way or another until it's done.

You know Brown has to feel that pressure. It's like Luongo saying his contract sucks when he wasn't being traded. Every eye is on Brown, with or without the C. Everyone, including himself, knows his cap hit, and knows barely 10 goals and under 30 points isn't enough. Everyone knows it's costing the Kings either the ability to bring a player in, or keep a player aboard. It's not his fault, someone offered him a crap load of money and he took it. Just like Kopitar, or Lucic, or anyone else, he doesn't owe it to the organization, his teammates, or fans to take less. The cap isn't Brown's problem, but you know he's got to feel it.
 
Trolfoli said:
It's crazy, there's no cap space....

King/Kopitar/Gaborik
Kempe/Carter/Toffoli
Pearson/Stamkos/Brown

????/Doughty
Muzzin/Martinez

King gets stuck with Kopitar so '76ers will melt down. Kopitar is going to get the toughest defensive matches.... King will get put with him.

Work Kempe in with Carter/Toffoli, 2 guys that are established and help things along.

Stamkos is the new guy and gets stuck with Brown. Sucks for the new guy.

Pick up a top 4 D at the deadline... not Scuderi/Schenn level... Could get LHD to pair with Doughty or move Martinez to the LHD and go for a RHD.

It would probably take Stamkos signing slightly under 10 and seeing as how it's not going to be an 8 year contract that may not be enough.

As far as attracting Stamkos.... He's spent a lot of time in warm weather Florida where he hasn't had to deal with the Canadian Hockey Media.... Think the guys could sell him on the beach?
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Most dangerous top 6 in the NHL....

Gaborik--Kopitar--Carter
Pearson--Stamkos--Toffoli

Worst bottom 6 in the NHL...

King--Shore--Brown
Clifford--Dowd--Nolan

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King is an above average 4th liner and borderline 3rd line player. If he is in our top 6 then we will miss the playoffs next year.


Pearson has a breakout year next year. After coming back from a serious injury he started picking up some pace and looked really good towards the end of the season . Id love for Pearson to be alongside Gaborik and Kopi
 
Kingsfan1 said:
King is an above average 4th liner and borderline 3rd line player. If he is in our top 6 then we will miss the playoffs next year.


Pearson has a breakout year next year. After coming back from a serious injury he started picking up some pace and looked really good towards the end of the season . Id love for Pearson to be alongside Gaborik and Kopi
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Disagree..this team without addressing the blue line and without Lucic should still finish ahead of Vancouver, Arizona, Calgary and Edmonton.
 
YP44 said:
Disagree..this team without addressing the blue line and without Lucic should still finish ahead of Vancouver, Arizona, Calgary and Edmonton.
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Edmonton could do well if they finally move a forward for a d
 
YP44 said:
I don't mind that 3rd.

not sure why people are dreaming of Stamkos though
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Somebody wrote an article with the top 10 possible destinations for Stamkos and LA was listed at #1. Not gonna happen but if it did I would have to believe he would be shifted to LW. You're not paying a guy 10 mil to play on the 2nd line.
 
Kingsfan1 said:
King is an above average 4th liner and borderline 3rd line player. If he is in our top 6 then we will miss the playoffs next year.


Pearson has a breakout year next year. After coming back from a serious injury he started picking up some pace and looked really good towards the end of the season . Id love for Pearson to be alongside Gaborik and Kopi
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If Dwight King has that much of an impact in any capacity, the Kings have bigger problems. If the sole reason the Kings miss the playoff's is Dwight King is a top six miscast player next season; it would mean Kopitar/Quick/Doughty/Gabo/Toffoli/Pearson/Muzzin/A-Mart were all injured for the entire year.

Team lives and dies by Kopitar/Doughty/Quick/Carter.
 
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Dwight King in a top six role would be telling of how this team's depth is utter garbage. He won't have an impact on the team's finish, but how him and others like McNabb are utilized in roles that are beyond their capabilities will be very telling. That's why the Kings got smacked around so easily by San Jose.
 
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