OFFICIALLY ROBBED. Literally and figuratively. OMG?

authentic

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For the argument we need to play better…
Better, like Mo’s goal counts and Nylander scores the game winner with 4.5 minutes left and there is no overtime, better?

That is playing better.

to have it end on the refs not calling Gudas on an overtime goal that ends our season… now, with gambling being the NHL’s main focus… this has a bad look.

Just as putting the technology into the puck and net… like touchdowns, every game winning goal must be looked at for interference.

After watching them call back the Tavares goal last year with our season on the line… it was disgusting to watch other teams get away with worse after we were eliminated.

But, seriously, calling back Mo’s goal and then let Gudas get away with that to end our season.

How do you win against this?

It's especially infuriating that some claim Rielly pushed Bobrovsky's pad into the net (lol) so the goal shouldn't have counted anyway, then see Gudas literally reach down and hold our players stick way up in the air like "Look at me, I'm breaking the rules but no one cares" and then that goal is all good and we need to stop whining.
 

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Marner got mugged by Staal right before the end of regulation, at least a penalty, probably should have been more than that.

The OT winner shouldn't have counted, pathetic refereeing...but

Don't let the refs dictate the game. Score more than 2 goals a game

This is league full of maniacs, coached by maniacs and run by maniacs, go get some maniacs Leafs. There's no integrity in this game and no class. At one time you had Gary Roberts, Darcy Tucker and Shayne Corson on the same team. They all did shit like this and got away with it all the time.

Its time to actually be the evil empire.
 

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Refs aren't an excuse, I suppose, but y'all have every right to be annoyed over that call. It impacted the GWG. Damn, these refs are terrible.
 

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The officials are not terrible at their job. They are not dumb. Each is hand-picked for the position by a billion-dollar corporation. There are 4 of them patrolling a quite small ice surface, and so observe every situation from every angle. They are well trained and very good at doing the job assigned to them. All 4 of them commiserate after each game-influencing call to "get it right".

So just for a moment, give yourself permission to believe the officials know exactly what they're doing. Now visualize the most egregious bizzare calls or non-calls... what realization pops into your head?
 
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Bettman has said repeatedly a priority is the integrity of the game. When fans justifiably feel like they got robbed, then the integrity is questioned.

… that’s for betting money.

Gambling needs the appearance of integrity. Lower level tennis matches are thrown often and lo and behold, someone bet 1 million on 5:1 odds and there was a huge upset ……
 

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The puck being across the line is kind of a nonsequitor. The referee intended to blow the play dead. I don't agree with that decision, but that was his intent.

As far as the puck being over the line? I'm about 50/50 on that one. The replay just isn't 100% certain, much like that high stick I'm the EDM/LA series.
The back referee who was hanging on the net said he intended to whistle the play dead

The referee at the redline said he blew the play dead, no reason was forthcoming, the only reason he would blow it would be to call a penalty, no penalty was called

The review stated the puck never crossed the line

My question. IF the redline ref blew the whistle, WHY would there be a review? IF the low ref HAD intended to blow the play dead, why was he looking for the puck? If he had INTENDED to blow the play dead, than WHY review whether or not the puck went in?

The league can't even get their stories straight.

I agree that the Leafs helped dig their own graves by shrinking away from the battle, I definitely agree that the superstars didn't show up which certainly helped their demise. You would have to be willfully in denial however to not see the help the Leafs were given with the shovel.
 

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Marner got mugged by Staal right before the end of regulation, at least a penalty, probably should have been more than that.

The OT winner shouldn't have counted, pathetic refereeing...but

Don't let the refs dictate the game. Score more than 2 goals a game

This is league full of maniacs, coached by maniacs and run by maniacs, go get some maniacs Leafs. There's no integrity in this game and no class. At one time you had Gary Roberts, Darcy Tucker and Shayne Corson on the same team. They all did shit like this and got away with it all the time.

Its time to actually be the evil empire.
So true, you don't win in this game wearing ballet shoes and tutu's
 
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Missed calls happen. Believing the the Leafs are specifically targeted is rediculous.
lol, dude, just take a look at the last 30 years. It's not just the Leafs, but Canada as a whole. But the Leafs are def. a big target for the NHL to f*** over when ever possible.
 

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That play doesn't change Leafs coffin location at all, they deserved to be the winner based on Leafs poor performance. Toronto was bullied by cats, beaten up physically
Lmao is this a joke post? Leafs literally outplayed then in basically every game other than game 3. ...... the refs highly favored panthers also! Let's be real. Bob won that series for panthers.
 
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I may not be part of the popular opinion… however, I don’t want the Leafs to play or win like that.

I’m not interested in Toronto doing what Bennet and Gudas did… I’m not into watching a whole season of Gudas hockey, hoping we sneak into the playoffs so we can see Gudas brutalize the other team and injure their players.

We need more ROR hockey on Toronto… not Bennett or Gudas.

We need to find a way through the missed calls and outplay dirty players like Gudas.
If the Leafs even remotely tried to play like FLA, we would have been issued a record amount of PIM's in a playoff series.
 
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The back referee who was hanging on the net said he intended to whistle the play dead

The referee at the redline said he blew the play dead, no reason was forthcoming, the only reason he would blow it would be to call a penalty, no penalty was called

The review stated the puck never crossed the line

My question. IF the redline ref blew the whistle, WHY would there be a review? IF the low ref HAD intended to blow the play dead, why was he looking for the puck? If he had INTENDED to blow the play dead, than WHY review whether or not the puck went in?

The league can't even get their stories straight.

I agree that the Leafs helped dig their own graves by shrinking away from the battle, I definitely agree that the superstars didn't show up which certainly helped their demise. You would have to be willfully in denial however to not see the help the Leafs were given with the shovel.

The bolded is what pisses me off most. If he "intended" to blow the play dead, then why would he bother rushing to the back of the net, put his hands on the back bar and watch the puck go in instead of blowing his whistle? And since it was a bang-bang play (seriously, go back and watch it - no human could make that quick of a decision). why did he "intend" to call the play dead in the first place? That was a scandalously bad decision by both the refs and the war room. Leafs got jobbed in that game. They literally won in regulation.
 
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It's especially infuriating that some claim Rielly pushed Bobrovsky's pad into the net (lol) so the goal shouldn't have counted anyway, then see Gudas literally reach down and hold our players stick way up in the air like "Look at me, I'm breaking the rules but no one cares" and then that goal is all good and we need to stop whining.

Gudas gets away with so much... That was interference on the winning goal, no question... to me, that was far worse than the no goal. Gudas seems to have found a way to constantly be interfering with other players, or other stuff, and not getting calls. Good on him to take things to that level.
 

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Lmao is this a joke post? Leafs literally outplayed then in basically every game other than game 3. ...... the refs highly favored panthers also! Let's be real. Bob won that series for panthers.
No joke at all. Leafs collapsed at Game 2 and never recovered. They were bullied physically by Gudas, Bennet, Montour, Tkachuk. Ask Marner and McCabe.
 
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authentic

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Right, and no cups. 1993...this is not the NHL, it is Bettman's USHL.

Bettman was commissioner when Montreal won the Cup in 1993.

No joke at all. Leafs collapsed at Game 2 and never recovered. They were bullied physically by Gudas, Bennet, Montour, Tkachuk. Ask Marner and McCabe.

A team that collapses doesn't get more scoring chances than the other. This is a false narrative that's perpetuated just because they lost 4 out of 5 close games, and the 5th one everyone knows they absolutely should've won. Other than game 3 it was either a pretty close game or us outplaying them by a lot in game 2 and 5. If you don't think Bobrovsky was the reason Florida won that series then you would be 100% wrong.
 
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Bettman was commissioner when Montreal won the Cup in 1993.



A team that collapses doesn't get more scoring chances than the other. This is a false narrative that's perpetuated just because they lost 4 out of 5 close games, and the 5th one everyone knows they absolutely should've won. Other than game 3 it was either a pretty close game or us outplaying them by a lot in game 2 and 5. If you don't think Bobrovsky was the reason Florida won that series then you would be 100% wrong.
Bettman just took over and had no impact. My how things changed.

Florida won because the Leafs top 2 guys and 3 out of 4, failed them. Florida intimidated them. Bettman changed the rules from speed and skill to see and kill.
 

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Bettman was commissioner when Montreal won the Cup in 1993.



A team that collapses doesn't get more scoring chances than the other. This is a false narrative that's perpetuated just because they lost 4 out of 5 close games, and the 5th one everyone knows they absolutely should've won. Other than game 3 it was either a pretty close game or us outplaying them by a lot in game 2 and 5. If you don't think Bobrovsky was the reason Florida won that series then you would be 100% wrong.
No, Leafs are softy like Tofo, McCabe was punched and beaten up badly by Montour & Bennett, they fack him badly at end of game 4
 
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It's OT you have to murder someone to get a call... or flip a puck up and out.
Maybe one day our players will learn that. Then all we have to do is find players willing to do it.

As pissed off as I am about what happened on that goal, I can't help but admire that Gudas did what he did knowing that it probably wouldn't be called. I don't think there is a single Leaf that would have even thought about doing what Gudas pulled off.
 

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I mean, realistically the series was over the moment we lost that game 3 overtime, so this likely doesn’t matter at all in the scope of series impact, but I do think it was a shit call
 

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I mean, realistically the series was over the moment we lost that game 3 overtime, so this likely doesn’t matter at all in the scope of series impact, but I do think it was a shit call

Whether it’s realistic or not we were robbed of a chance to make an epic comeback and it only needed 2 wins after that when all the pressure would’ve been on Florida. It’s a disgrace that we had our playoffs end in that fashion again.
 

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