Official Trade Speculation/Proposal Thread III

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scott99

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Kane would probably cost a 1st plus either Strome or Nelson. I'm torn whether I'd do that. Is Evander Kane a first line sniper ?
 

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I don't think so. I'd agree to disagree. Byfuglien isn't commanding a top 5 pick, no way is he worth that much. I also am not buying into Kane as much as others.

Excuse me for coughing when he brings back a bigger package than the one between...Pittsburgh and Carolina for Staal.
 

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Big Buff alone will cost you that package, maybe more.

Kane would cost our first this year, plus one nice forward piece (think Nelson or Strome here) or two good pieces, like two of Sundstrom, Lee, Donovan, de Haan, Pokka, and Reinhart.

Kane is the classic change of scene rebound player if there ever was one. Dude is a power forward and will be back to scoring 30+ goals looking great on the top line for the next five years with Tavares and Okposo.

I would do that in a heart beat. He would enjoy the relative anonymity of the Island too.
 

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Isles need goaltending and defense, not less of it. Hamonic was given the role of shutting Malkin down last season in a HUGE role. I highly doubt the organization would move him for a very good player in Evander Kane.

Probably right but if the Jets were to move Kane you're giving up a roster player of consequence.

And if that were the cost I might do it.
 

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Kane would probably cost a 1st plus either Strome or Nelson. I'm torn whether I'd do that. Is Evander Kane a first line sniper ?
Dude, you want to give up a lottery pick and one of the top prospects in the NHL for a guy you aren't even sure is a first line sniper?

Let's relax with the value here, we aren't trading for Pat Kane.
Excuse me for coughing when he brings back a bigger package than the one between...Pittsburgh and Carolina for Staal.

Go ahead.
 

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i heard so much that 2015 is a much deeper draft than 2014 and can anyone tell me how much deeper it is expected to be. If Snow cannot land a 2014 1st pick, can he at least get a 2015 2nd as he already gave away that to the Sabres. I would like to see they can at least land a forward prospect that can play within one year, because I think they are a bit thin in that area, especially on the wing, unless those two Russian kids will make the team or at least have a good year at AHL next season, as depth will never hurt, especially when you have injuries. They need to look hard at some free agents like unsigned college players and late boomers in other leagues that are undrafted or unsigned and offer them try out contracts at AHL.
 

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Dude, you want to give up a lottery pick and one of the top prospects in the NHL for a guy you aren't even sure is a first line sniper?

Let's relax with the value here, we aren't trading for Pat Kane.


Go ahead.

I'd give up Strome and a 1st for Kane in a heartbeat. To me Strome is another weak forward who will be physically pummeled nightly and not live up to expectation in the scoring department. Obviously time will tell, but i'd do this deal right now.
 

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I'd give up Strome and a 1st for Kane in a heartbeat. To me Strome is another weak forward who will be physically pummeled nightly and not live up to expectation in the scoring department. Obviously time will tell, but i'd do this deal right now.

I have a pretty good knack for judging talent, i'm not always right of course. I can't help but to agree on Strome. I think it's gonna make a lot of people cry because he's already reached MVP status on these boards for really no proven reason at all.

My Dad and i used to debate and he's pretty much right, the main difference between the average nhl player and the average ahl player is not so much skill set, but being able to do things at speed. Quick with no hesitation. Same in soccer. Nelson has succeeded on every level, not because he got more talented or more skilled, but because he was able to adjust to the game quickly increasing the speed he makes his decisions and then using his body as an advantage. I just don't see it clicking quickly with Strome and when it does I don't think he's going to be that big of a factor as people are hoping. Just my two cents.

I don't like E. Kane, but i'm lacking in any definitive ways to express it. I would not be heart broken if we traded Strome for an impact player, but if they do hold on to him i hope my prognostications turn out to be completely without merit.
 

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Kane is the classic change of scene rebound player if there ever was one. Dude is a power forward and will be back to scoring 30+ goals looking great on the top line for the next five years with Tavares and Okposo.

I'd prefer to pair him with Nelson on the 2nd line to balance out the scoring better. And let's be honest, at 6' 2" and 195 lbs. he is NOT a power forward, just like Kyle isn't. Those are rare types for a reason. Size, combined with skill. Lucic at 6' 3", 235 lbs. is.

I would definitely trade Strome and a later first for him. PROVEN talent trumps potential in this situation.
 

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I'd prefer to pair him with Nelson on the 2nd line to balance out the scoring better. And let's be honest, at 6' 2" and 195 lbs. he is NOT a power forward, just like Kyle isn't. Those are rare types for a reason. Size, combined with skill. Lucic at 6' 3", 235 lbs. is.

I would definitely trade Strome and a later first for him. PROVEN talent trumps potential in this situation.

Kane is much grittier than Okposo. I would do the trade you specified as well, however there is noway I give up a top 3 pick+Strome for Kane.
 

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What about Nielsen and grabner for kane?

Evander Kane is more or less the Jets' Tavares. They will not trade him unless it's for an NHL player of equivalence, such as Travis Hamonic who is regarded as our top shutdown defenseman or Kyle Okposo who is by for our best winger.
 

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Evander Kane is more or less the Jets' Tavares. They will not trade him unless it's for an NHL player of equivalence, such as Travis Hamonic who is regarded as our top shutdown defenseman or Kyle Okposo who is by for our best winger.

I dont think thats true.

I think nielsen and grabner is very comparable in talent and production.

They get a second line center, who plays in all zones and both special teams. Plus grabner who produces at a similar clip to Kane and both are under contract.

people drastically underate both these guys. Both would be coveted players if put on the block.

Plus, Kanes stock is dropping. He was once thought of like that...but I dont think so anymore. Injuries, off ice issues and lack of production have hurt him. Ladd plays on the top line grabs and nielsen with scheiffle.
 

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I dont think thats true.

I think nielsen and grabner is very comparable in talent and production.

They get a second line center, who plays in all zones and both special teams. Plus grabner who produces at a similar clip to Kane.

Nielsen is a versatile player, but with Little, Scheifele, and Jokinen up the middle, how much value does Neilsen have to the Jets?

Grabner is a third liner with deficiencies and Kane is a physical beast with better offensive instincts and is a potential threat to score 30 or more goals a year. I just don't see Winnipeg giving him up for that package and I'd rather not offer that package for someone who in the past has been as inconsistent as Kane has.
 

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I dont think thats true.

I think nielsen and grabner is very comparable in talent and production.

They get a second line center, who plays in all zones and both special teams. Plus grabner who produces at a similar clip to Kane and both are under contract.

people drastically underate both these guys. Both would be coveted players if put on the block.

Plus, Kanes stock is dropping. He was once thought of like that...but I dont think so anymore. Injuries, off ice issues and lack of production have hurt him. Ladd plays on the top line grabs and nielsen with scheiffle.

Kane's stock is not dropping and he is on a pace for 100 points.
 

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Duster, Winnipeg calls up and asks for Okposo and offers Frolik and Jokinen, do you do it?
 

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What about something like AMac and a pick for Malcolm Subban? Bruins seem to want AMac, we need a goalie. They have rask so I could see Subban as expendable
 

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What about something like AMac and a pick for Malcolm Subban? Bruins seem to want AMac, we need a goalie. They have rask so I could see Subban as expendable

Nevermind, just read an article saying their GM came out and said he's not going anywhere
 

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scott99

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Dude, you want to give up a lottery pick and one of the top prospects in the NHL for a guy you aren't even sure is a first line sniper?

Let's relax with the value here, we aren't trading for Pat Kane.


Go ahead.

Please note in my comment, I said I'm TORN as to whether I'd do the trade I mentioned. Torn means I'm not sure I'd do it.
 
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