Seravalli: Official JT Miller Trade Thread - NEW Update (1/25/22) - Rangers Interest "Next Level"

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

Bahahaha. We don’t need to trade Miller to you or at all, he’s 28
You’re the delusional one bud, you NEED someone of a JT Miller caliber player to win the cup. We don’t need futures from you thanks though

Bruh the Rangers are currently third in the NHL and they've beaten FLA, tampa twice, TOR and other alleged contenders. They don't need JT Miller to win anything; he's a nicety and I'd love to have him for sure. But to think the conversation starts with Schneider is delusional. The Rangers are in no rush to contend; their window has only just cracked open.

The only thing that's a fact is the Canucks aren't making the playoffs and Miller does nothing for them except lower their draft position

 

[Icebreakers]

Miller is better than Chychrun. Chychrun is way more valuable though.

 

[McRanger92]

Rangers certainly have the means and motivation to trade for JT, but i dont think they are willing to lose Strome in the offseason to actually pull the trigger

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

Rangers certainly have the means and motivation to trade for JT, but i dont think they are willing to lose Strome in the offseason to actually pull the trigger

Omg you're going to summon the bernmeister with that one.

 

[Nabrules]

Delusional

The Rangers don't NEED JT Miller. You NEED draft picks and prospects to retool. Understand the difference

rangers do if they want to go far in the okay playoffs lmao. Strome at 2 will get dominated

 

[Back in 94]

The main piece for any trade involving Miller should be a blue chip prospect coming back that addresses a need. Not a late 1st round pick. PPG players who can play all forward positions with a 52% faceoff win rate do not grow on trees.

 

[Overrateprospects]

The cost is going to be outrageous but the idea of Hall-Miller-Pastrnak is quite tantalizing.

Problem is Canucks fans expect 2 firsts and a prospect like Fabian Lysell as a starter.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Where? I thought we were talking about JT Miller?

What's the old saying, it's better to remain quiet and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt?

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

someone did this on Capfriendly -- Halak makes sense for Avs too.
Avs fans, how much do you hate this?
Miller for Newhook - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

I'm sure its been said countless times in this thread already since, but there's a 0% chance the Avs are trading Newhook for a 1.5 year rental.



0% Chance

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Funny how some teams have core players in the middle of their prime, but fans don't want to give up a prospect that's years away from being an impact player. Do they not understand that by the time the prospect is able to contribute, their current core players may be out of their prime by then? Haha.

Anyway, real contenders like Tampa Bay & Vegas tend to go all-in, so I'd be curious if the Canucks get a serious offer from either team.

Yeah man that would be hilarious if what you said was actually true. Unfortunately its not so you're the one who looks funny.


Canucks fans in this thread seem to think they're going to get a piece like Perfetti, Jarvis, Newhook, Necas, etc. Guys that are actually in the NHL right now, and contributing to team success while doing so for under 1M a year.

There's no chance any of those teams are giving up players of that caliber for 1.5 years of Miller. Just not happening.

 

[gianni]

Yeah man that would be hilarious if what you said was actually true. Unfortunately its not so you're the one who looks funny.


Canucks fans in this thread seem to think they're going to get a piece like Perfetti, Jarvis, Newhook, Necas, etc. Guys that are actually in the NHL right now, and contributing to team success while doing so for under 1M a year.

There's no chance any of those teams are giving up players of that caliber for 1.5 years of Miller. Just not happening.

Except many of the "asks" from Van fans are not "prospects that are years away". I've seen Schneider, Jarvis, Necas, Newhook, Perfetti, etc.. Those are guys already in the NHL (Schneider and Perfetti less so).

While I agree with your general premise, the "asks" aren't guys "years away".

Have they played NHL games? Yes.

Are they in their prime this year? No.
Will they be in their prime next year? Likely No.

Compare JT Miller's stats to those you listed. There's a difference from just starting an NHL career, and being in your prime.

 

[elitepete]

What we know Previously.
Rangers,Jets,Avalanche are interested.

Major Updates;

There was also the report earlier in the season that the Wild are interested, and offered Fiala and a pick iirc. Might as well add them to the list of interest teams.

 

[arttk]

Bruh the Rangers are currently third in the NHL and they've beaten FLA, tampa twice, TOR and other alleged contenders. They don't need JT Miller to win anything; he's a nicety and I'd love to have him for sure. But to think the conversation starts with Schneider is delusional. The Rangers are in no rush to contend; their window has only just cracked open.

The only thing that's a fact is the Canucks aren't making the playoffs and Miller does nothing for them except lower their draft position

Uhhh playoff experience is a thing, remember Tampa getting bounced after finishing 1st?

 

[elitepete]

The cost is going to be outrageous but the idea of Hall-Miller-Pastrnak is quite tantalizing.

That line would be so good offensively.

Yet so bad defensively.

 

[elitepete]

As I stated in the other thread--all these "reports" are coming from either Canuck reporters or reporters that have a history with Rutherford...my question is--Is Vancouver trying to create the market and if so why? They are firing on all wheels and not seems an interesting time to ship out someone who is supposed to be a key cog

Except none of these teams have denounced the rumours.

 

[elitepete]

Bruh the Rangers are currently third in the NHL and they've beaten FLA, tampa twice, TOR and other alleged contenders. They don't need JT Miller to win anything; he's a nicety and I'd love to have him for sure. But to think the conversation starts with Schneider is delusional. The Rangers are in no rush to contend; their window has only just cracked open.

The only thing that's a fact is the Canucks aren't making the playoffs and Miller does nothing for them except lower their draft position

The only thing that's delusional is thinking that the Canucks couldn't get a Braden Schneider type of prospect in a package for Miller.

 

[elitepete]

Problem is Canucks fans expect 2 firsts and a prospect like Fabian Lysell as a starter.

Not all of us.

 

[dlawong]

If Jet will give up Cole Perfetti in return plus a 1st, definitely Canucks should do the deal.

 

[elitepete]

Yeah man that would be hilarious if what you said was actually true. Unfortunately its not so you're the one who looks funny.


Canucks fans in this thread seem to think they're going to get a piece like Perfetti, Jarvis, Newhook, Necas, etc. Guys that are actually in the NHL right now, and contributing to team success while doing so for under 1M a year.

There's no chance any of those teams are giving up players of that caliber for 1.5 years of Miller. Just not happening.

There are numerous Canucks fans saying that a prospect like that isn't a requirement, keep spewing nonsense though.

 

[elitepete]

Easier to say that after. Cody was highly regard by the fans in Vancouver, they would have called for the head of the GM!

If we got Mike Richards or Jeff Carter for package around Cody Hodgson+? Absolutely not. A lot of us actually wanted something like that to happen.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Easier to say that after. Cody was highly regard by the fans in Vancouver, they would have called for the head of the GM!

That's the point though, if you're trying to win the Stanley Cup, you have to be willing to be bold when the moment calls for it.

I'm not talking about a mediocre team like Dallas going 'all in' and trading a bunch of futures. But if you're a top 5 in the league, at some point it's time to take the risk.

 

[KevinFinnerty]

Nils Lundkvist and a 1st

 

[cneely]

The main piece for any trade involving Miller should be a blue chip prospect coming back that addresses a need. Not a late 1st round pick. PPG players who can play all forward positions with a 52% faceoff win rate do not grow on trees.

Again, in his 10 years in the league, Miller has finished with at or above 1 PPG once.

 

[cneely]

If Jet will give up Cole Perfetti in return plus a 1st, definitely Canucks should do the deal.

Yeah, that’s never going to happen.

 

[Hunter368]

If Jet will give up Cole Perfetti in return plus a 1st, definitely Canucks should do the deal.

The rumour about the Jets is old (people seem to ignore that fact), from the beginning of the season, lots of things have changed since then with both teams, most importantly is PLD & Mark are playing like 1A & 1B centres so no need for JT.

Plus no cap space. Plus the Jets aren’t a JT away from being a contender. Plus in the Jets entire 2.0 history they’ve never traded away a high end prospect b/c they are a draft & develop franchise. Plus the Jets are too far out of a playoff spot at this stage to give up a blue chip prospect (plus a 1st rd pick) for a 1.5 year term contract. Plus other teams who are real contenders would far out bid anything the Jets would offer.

Jets aren’t trading Cole & 1st rd pick for JT, bc of all the reasons above.