Seravalli: Official JT Miller Trade Thread - NEW Update (1/25/22) - Rangers Interest "Next Level"

[Peter Griffin]

Instead of unrealistic Schneider, consider a Jones + type

Already have a Jones in Jack Rathbone.

 

[Boondock]

The Rangers don’t need JT Miller.

No, but this thread was created because a hockey insider - Frank Seravelli made the statement that “the Rangers are all over JT Miller”. And I was responding to a post that was commenting on the Canucks taking what was offered because the Canucks NEED to trade Miller.

 

[One Winged Angel]

You have no idea if your GM will move Schneider do no need to talk in absolutes…it’s definitely not out of the realm of possibilities

And you have no idea of whether or not it will take Schneider to get Miller.

Practice what you preach.

 

[One Winged Angel]

No, but this thread was created because a hockey insider - Frank Seravelli made the statement that “the Rangers are all over JT Miller”. And I was responding to a post that was commenting on the Canucks taking what was offered because the Canucks NEED to trade Miller.

It’s funny because not one Ranger writer has said anything about it.

Sounds like someone from Vancouver might be trying to stir something up.

 

[One Winged Angel]

If you think Pavelski or Kessel are more effective than JT Miller at this stage in their games you’re off your rocker man

JT Miller isn’t a fit here and isn’t getting PP TOI over anyone and that’s where the majority of his offense comes from.

Pavelski literally plays both positions the team needs and can go on either PP or PK unit. He would also compliment both lines in the top-6 better.

Stop talking about the Rangers as if you actually watch them, because it’s clear as day that you don’t.

 

[Boondock]

It’s funny because not one Ranger writer has said anything about it.

Sounds like someone from Vancouver might be trying to stir something up.

No it was actually Frank Seravelli - I heard the hit.

 

[One Winged Angel]

No it was actually Frank Seravelli - I heard the hit.

No, I’m saying someone is telling Seravalli this to stir up interest.

It happens all of the time.

 

[AHLdepth]

JT Miller isn’t a fit here and isn’t getting PP TOI over anyone and that’s where the majority of his offense comes from.

Pavelski literally plays both positions the team needs and can go on either PP or PK unit. He would also compliment both lines in the top-6 better.

Stop talking about the Rangers as if you actually watch them, because it’s clear as day that you don’t.

This post is satire right? Miller does not get his majority of points from the powerplay, can also play all three positions very well, and is usually the first guy over the boards on the PP and PK.

But then to follow up all that with "Stop talking about the Rangers as if you actually watch them, because it’s clear as day that you don’t".

A+ irony.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

If you think Pavelski or Kessel are more effective than JT Miller at this stage in their games you’re off your rocker man

Joe Pavelski absolutely is. You obviously haven't been watching him this year. He is the Dallas Stars offense.

 

[Bettman Returnz]

Joe Pavelski absolutely is. You obviously haven't been watching him this year. He is the Dallas Stars offense.

I mean he’s basically the stars only scoring this season. So sure, he’s played well, there’s no debating that. You could probably get him cheaper than miller too. But to say he’s more affective than miller is a bit of a leap. Going to be interesting to see how the chips fall with miller/giroux/pavelski/hertl…

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

That one article mentions Kakko or Lafreniere being potentially in play for Miller i think that would be the best case scenario for the Canucks getting one of those two plus maybe a mid round pick or a low end prospect.

i would prefer one of those two over schneider/lundqvist and a 1st

I'd honestly do Lafreniere straight up for Miller. I feel like he's been short changed and rushed into the NHL. With proper development he should blossom into a star player.

Kakko I would need something extra. I think he has a decent future (i.e. Puljujarvi) but he's never going to become a star.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Well, your previous comments would make someone think you believe your speaking for the organization.
For the last time, keep JT Miller....

Nope just speaking out on the fact that you are clueless, not sure how that means I'm speaking for the entire organization?

For the last time I don't control the team, maybe you should tell yours to lose interest since, you know, the rumour is that they phoned the canucks checking on JT

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

irrelevant
what he can actually bring back is established by several factors
one of which is supply and demand
so the first ?, before we consider who actually is available, is to look at who can potentially be made available.
He will NOT actually be made available, but theoretically since Rangers have Schneider he could be put on the table, even if only in theory not practice.
My point then is what clubs have a Schneider calibre guy. That is the first ?, then can they be considered available for trade, at all.
Rangers not making Schneider available Trouba's heir, etc etc.
Sens have Sanderson on the way, he is apparently not on the table even for a decent profit.

My pt remains: high quality D prospects can be found. Better still guys are likely not.
'nucks can look for such a guy, but are not likely to find, and still even less likely to find one available.

Instead of unrealistic Schneider, consider a Jones + type

Of course he is the Sens are rebuilding not in win now mode, what an absolutely awful example.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

I'd honestly do Lafreniere straight up for Miller. I feel like he's been short changed and rushed into the NHL. With proper development he should blossom into a star player.

Kakko I would need something extra. I think he has a decent future (i.e. Puljujarvi) but he's never going to become a star.

Neither will be on the table for Miller, let's not get delusional here Canucks fans.

 

[BWJM]

I'm not trading JT Miller for a late 1st + B tier prospect.

If the deal doesn't have a sure fire piece I see zero reason to do it, especially this season. Next season, establish if he wants to move on or not, if he does, sure that's the kind of deal he should fetch.

This isn't no B tier rental especially at that contract, not to mention possible retention.

 

[bernmeister]

Of course he is the Sens are rebuilding not in win now mode, what an absolutely awful example.

You are misinformed, wrong or both.
De facto, Sanderson is not available.

 

[nucksflailtogether]

He’s not removing any of them from PP1. The Rangers need someone who can drive play at 5v5. They’re better off going after Hertl, Pavelski or Kessel. They’ll come cheaper and probably be more effective.

Now this thread has gone off the rails when we start saying Kessel is a more effective player. Wowzers.

 

[BatVader]

Saw this on another forum site…
Scheifele+Copp+Stanley+3rd for Boeser+JT Miller

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

You are misinformed, wrong or both.
De facto, Sanderson is not available.

No bud, you are the most misinformed person on these boards and that's saying a lot.

 

[Bankerguy]

I like Button's take on the situation. You keep Jt. Miller... and you ask for a massive overpayment when the calls come in. Trading him is like saying "F- the season"
1st round pick and a A tier prospect. NYR, maybe Lafren and Schneider. I recognize that Schneider is top notch and Lafren, while he's lost value, he's still a dynamic piece. It is an over-payment but that is what i'd ask for and i'd understand and respect of NYR declines.
However, if i imagine NYR with Jt. Miller, that is freakin scary.
I don't think NYR fans in this thread quite understand how good he is. Imagine a guy who can Center a top line, play any forward position, pk, pp and 5on5 production, PPG player. He hits hard and plays in all 3 zones. You could plug him into any of their top 3 lines. Their depth would be scary

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

Saw this on another forum site…
Scheifele+Copp+Stanley+3rd for Boeser+JT Miller

Not a bad deal, but why are Jets fans souring on Scheiele?

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Can’t believe Tampa gave up on this guy.

 

[gojetsgo]

Saw this on another forum site…
Scheifele+Copp+Stanley+3rd for Boeser+JT Miller

that is f***ing awful for the jets..

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

Can’t believe Tampa gave up on this guy.

Cap casualty. And they are B2B champions, I don't think they really care. One of the few teams that honestly didn't need him.

 

[PettersonHughes]

Can’t believe Tampa gave up on this guy.

Well he was earning his current contract while playing 3rd line minutes, and they also had a stacked roster (Kuch/ Stamkos/ Point all above 90 points, Gourde/ Johnson/ Killorn/ Miller all at or challenging for 40-50 points) and I if I recall correctly they needed to do some asset management and see who they would sell on. They do still have a matured Palat, Cirelli and the rest of the championship core, so I don't think they did all that poorly.