Speculation: Official JT Miller Trade Thread II - NEW Update (1/25/22) - Rangers Interest "Next Level"

[Just A Bit Outside]

I was wondering if they'd do turcotte and faber(he seems like a more solid all around d than grams)

If Turcotte is even remotely on the table you take it and run.

 

[Anthony5967]

If Miller is fine signing around $8M for 6 years, does Vancouver just re-sign him at this point? 80-point pace. Guy has been fantastic. It's not a fluke either. He's a completely different player. Not saying he's Ryan O'Reilly defensively, but he's probably a better all-around version of him.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

If Miller is fine signing around $8M for 6 years, does Vancouver just re-sign him at this point? 80-point pace. Guy has been fantastic. It's not a fluke either. He's a completely different player. Not saying he's Ryan O'Reilly defensively, but he's probably a better all-around version of him.

This is the way i see it going, as long as he's willing.

 

[John Mandalorian]

This is the way i see it going, as long as he's willing.

He'll probably walk.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

He'll probably walk.

Has there been anything in Vancouver media reported about it? Is it just speculation that he wants to go back to the States?

 

[Bettman Returnz]

Has there been anything in Vancouver media reported about it? Is it just speculation that he wants to go back to the States?

Speculation at this point. The next month will be telling. If we do trade him then likely conversations of resigning went nowhere and we call a spade a spade.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Has there been anything in Vancouver media reported about it? Is it just speculation that he wants to go back to the States?

A variety of things. There's the initial story where he didn't exactly fit in with the younger core. I believe he was referrred to as a cancer. Then there's the speculation/rumor/reports that his agent is leaking news of interest from other teams. And, yes. There's the issue of him being an American playing for a Canadian team.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

To be fair, he didn’t say 100pt/season.

Miller has scored over 100pts throughout his entire Canuck tenure.

Nobody calls someone a 100 pt player without referring to per 82 games, come on man.

 

[noupf]

So i'm curious.....JT Miller is clearly a quality player that has gotten better as his career has aged......why is VAN looking to trade him and not keep him around for the future?

 

[Bettman Returnz]

So i'm curious.....JT Miller is clearly a quality player that has gotten better as his career has aged......why is VAN looking to trade him and not keep him around for the future?

I feel like this gets answered every page…

There’s indications that miller doesn’t want to resign, wants to go back to US. Trust me we don’t want to trade him if there’s a reasonable resign situation but that doesn’t seem likely.

 

[NYVanfan]

I feel like this gets answered every page…

There’s indications that miller doesn’t want to resign, wants to go back to US. Trust me we don’t want to trade him if there’s a reasonable resign situation but that doesn’t seem likely.

also they need to build a sustainable future. they aint pushing for a cup until Miller is in his 30s, and having a guy that age take up the bulk of your cap is a big gamble, better to have <25 assets with more prime years. His trade value is very high right now, so its only a case for pulling the trigger with homerun assets, like Schneider, Newhook, etc. if not, have a whole other year also to trade him..

 

[Seventy7]

1st 5th B spect for Toffoli?
Miller is worth twice that

 

[kanucks25]

Price just went up again !!!!!!

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

1st 5th B spect for Toffoli?
Miller is worth twice that

3x that easy imo. Better ppg, faster, plays centre, just overall a better player.

 

[Anthony5967]

1st+Othmann+Schneider is basically the type of deal now Vancouver probably wants. I feel like that's a deal a Colorado does or a Florida.

 

[Three On Zero]

That Toffoli trade just solidified JTs value

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Nobody calls someone a 100 pt player without referring to per 82 games, come on man.

I’ve seen plenty of it.

“He paces for x goals or x points over a full season”

Which means he’s never achieved it.

Oh, it’s also a joke.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

I’ve seen plenty of it.

“He paces for x goals or x points over a full season”

Which means he’s never achieved it.

Oh, it’s also a joke.

Ok, fair enough.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

That Toffoli trade just solidified JTs value

I don't see the connection. The majority of the discussion about Miller seemingly has centered on whether he will return a leaguewide blue chip prospect or not. Toffoli went for comparatively expendable assets.

 

[Deadly Dogma]

I wonder if the Leafs are going to go all in with Vancouver
2022 1st+2023 1st+Lilj+Robertson+Kerfoot for Miller@50%+Schenn
Kerfoot is not a cap dump guy is playing like a legit top 6 winger

 

[AKL]

I don't see the connection. The majority of the discussion about Miller seemingly has centered on whether he will return a leaguewide blue chip prospect or not. Toffoli went for comparatively expendable assets.

Yeah I think that pretty much solidifies that Miller isn't going to return the top blue chip prospect Canucks fans want.

 

[Nucker42]

Yeah I think that pretty much solidifies that Miller isn't going to return the top blue chip prospect Canucks fans want.

Not sure how you would come to that conclusion? 1st line point a game player vs 2nd liner?

 

[kanucks25]

I don't see the connection. The majority of the discussion about Miller seemingly has centered on whether he will return a leaguewide blue chip prospect or not. Toffoli went for comparatively expendable assets.

Yeah I think that pretty much solidifies that Miller isn't going to return the top blue chip prospect Canucks fans want.

I'm not suggesting Canucks fans are going to get everything they want here but I don't see the comparison.

Miller is an all-around play driving 1st liner while Toffoli is a good secondary scorer.

The difference in value here ought to be a good prospect, or the upgrade of a good prospect to a top prospect (at least).

 

[John Mandalorian]

@TomKosto

Look at the date in the thread title. On 1.25, NYR's interest was so "next level" that we're three weeks later and nothing has happened.

Do you still want to pretend that information isn't leaked to reporters for the purpose of manipulating the market/demand? Or maybe even for other purposes?

 

[AKL]

I'm not suggesting Canucks fans are going to get everything they want here but I don't see the comparison.

Miller is an all-around play driving 1st liner while Toffoli is a good secondary scorer.

The difference in value here ought to be a good prospect, or the upgrade of a good prospect to a top prospect (at least).

Yeah, Miller is better than Toffoli, but Calgary effectively gave up a late 1st, a 5th, a mediocre bottom six prospect, and a nothing roster player. The gap between Miller and Toffoli doesn't increase that to a top prospect. It increases it to a B level prospect and an upgrade on the 5th round pick.