Speculation: Official JT Miller Trade Thread II - NEW Update (1/25/22) - Rangers Interest "Next Level"

[Canuck86]

Miller is a very good player but when things don't go his way he pouts and puts in half ass efforts.

Well, he is an american at the end of the day...

 

[BatVader]

Well, he is an american at the end of the day...

……………

 

[Wandering Cynic]

If Joe Sakic is willing, I can see him end up on Colorado. They have the prospects and picks to make a deal work.

 

[Boondock]

It is too bad that Vancouver is in the position to need to trade him, apparently. The team seems to be in a much better place all around and the fans have been through a tough stretch with Dim Jim.
Is there no way around trading him? I guess not and I guess the prospect of the future is more important.

There is always the option not to trade Miller away. The problem is that we don't have any cap, no prospect pool and we haven't had a 1st round draft pick in 2 seasons so there aren't any high end re-enforcements coming up any time in the near future. It's very difficult to improve when you don't have cap flexibility, no internal depth or help and players over paid that will require assets to move out. Trading Miller is a short term pain for long term gain type deal unless someone wants to give up assets for OEL or Tucker Poolman........well looks like its Miller.

 

[iFan]

Well, he is an american at the end of the day...

this is a pretty crap thing to say that adds nothing

 

[wetcoast]

For context — Lafreniere, Kakko and Schneider were all off the table for Eichel, who’s without question a superior player to JTM. A natural Center. Younger. And Signed longer.

This was prior to the Rangers committing to Zibanejad longterm. So the salary cap wasn’t as important then for NY.

I wholeheartedly understand the premise behind Schneider, a 1st, and another piece from Nucks fans who aren’t smoking crack and think the + would be a Lafreniere or Kakko. That’s just a straight up dumb expectation.

Why this helps NY? They can utilize Miller and Strome together for a cup run (which I don’t think they should) and, with the Nucks retaining, they have a 2C option next year without having to commit to Strome beyond this year.

This allows Drury to ice a damn good team next year with enough money to re-sign guys like Kakko and Blais with JTM as our 2C for 1 more season. If the cost is Schneider, our 1st, and a player like: Chytil/Barron/Jones/Robertson, I can maybe see it happening, although I wouldn’t endorse that.

But you’re not getting Laf. Or Kakko. Or ESPECIALLY Laf/Kakko on top of Schneider. Whoever originally thought that needs to stop smoking crack. That’s just straight up f***ing stupid.

I can see an offer around a 1st (would prefer a 23 first though), Schneider and Jones/Robertson for Miller (even with some salary retained if needed.

 

[zcaptain]

For context — Lafreniere, Kakko and Schneider were all off the table for Eichel, who’s without question a superior player to JTM. A natural Center. Younger. And Signed longer.

This was prior to the Rangers committing to Zibanejad longterm. So the salary cap wasn’t as important then for NY.

I wholeheartedly understand the premise behind Schneider, a 1st, and another piece from Nucks fans who aren’t smoking crack and think the + would be a Lafreniere or Kakko. That’s just a straight up dumb expectation.

Why this helps NY? They can utilize Miller and Strome together for a cup run (which I don’t think they should) and, with the Nucks retaining, they have a 2C option next year without having to commit to Strome beyond this year.

This allows Drury to ice a damn good team next year with enough money to re-sign guys like Kakko and Blais with JTM as our 2C for 1 more season. If the cost is Schneider, our 1st, and a player like: Chytil/Barron/Jones/Robertson, I can maybe see it happening, although I wouldn’t endorse that.

But you’re not getting Laf. Or Kakko. Or ESPECIALLY Laf/Kakko on top of Schneider. Whoever originally thought that needs to stop smoking crack. That’s just straight up f***ing stupid.

As a Canuck fan, I find this the most reasonable opinion, I have read.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Miller to Minnesota makes an insane amount of sense. More sense than NYR.

Miller@50%+Motte for Rossi+Lambos+Addison.

Minnesota keeps their first to move at the deadline for a rental or another impact player for a playoff run.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Miller to Minnesota makes an insane amount of sense. More sense than NYR.

Miller@50%+Motte for Rossi+Lambos+Addison.

Minnesota keeps their first to move at the deadline for a rental or another impact player for a playoff run.

Don't think Wild fans will like that.

 

[nucksflailtogether]

Don't think Wild fans will like that.

Nor should they. Let's stop overrating his value.

 

[rangersfansince08]

Miller to Minnesota makes an insane amount of sense. More sense than NYR.

Miller@50%+Motte for Rossi+Lambos+Addison.

Minnesota keeps their first to move at the deadline for a rental or another impact player for a playoff run.

You are not getting Rossi. Keep trying.

 

[Gstank]

I think we start to hear rumours about more teams near the end of the month. Specfically Nashville as they have a ton of cap space and some expendable assets that fit our needs. Miller plays the perfect type of game for that team

Trenin, Myers, Prokop and a 2022 1st?
or Fabbro, Prokop and a mid round pick?

 

[Soundgarden]

I think we start to hear rumours about more teams near the end of the month. Specfically Nashville as they have a ton of cap space and some expendable assets that fit our needs. Miller plays the perfect type of game for that team

Trenin, Myers, Prokop and a 2022 1st?
or Fabbro, Prokop and a mid round pick?

Nashville doesn't really need Miller, we might look to upgrade Kunin, but Miller would be a luxury especially at that price.

Fabbro's on our top pairing and is playing well and we need defensemen for the playoffs, so he's definitely not moving.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

Miller to Minnesota makes an insane amount of sense. More sense than NYR.

Miller@50%+Motte for Rossi+Lambos+Addison.

Minnesota keeps their first to move at the deadline for a rental or another impact player for a playoff run.

Minnesota can’t and won’t trade Rossi. He’s on an ELC through the buyouts. We need him

 

[seanlinden]

For context — Lafreniere, Kakko and Schneider were all off the table for Eichel, who’s without question a superior player to JTM. A natural Center. Younger. And Signed longer.

This was prior to the Rangers committing to Zibanejad longterm. So the salary cap wasn’t as important then for NY.

I wholeheartedly understand the premise behind Schneider, a 1st, and another piece from Nucks fans who aren’t smoking crack and think the + would be a Lafreniere or Kakko. That’s just a straight up dumb expectation.

Why this helps NY? They can utilize Miller and Strome together for a cup run (which I don’t think they should) and, with the Nucks retaining, they have a 2C option next year without having to commit to Strome beyond this year.

This allows Drury to ice a damn good team next year with enough money to re-sign guys like Kakko and Blais with JTM as our 2C for 1 more season. If the cost is Schneider, our 1st, and a player like: Chytil/Barron/Jones/Robertson, I can maybe see it happening, although I wouldn’t endorse that.

But you’re not getting Laf. Or Kakko. Or ESPECIALLY Laf/Kakko on top of Schneider. Whoever originally thought that needs to stop smoking crack. That’s just straight up f***ing stupid.

Call me crazy, but I don't see the Rangers parting with Schneider for Miller. They have built a VERY good young team, and that's without getting much in the way of contributions from Laf & Kakko. On D, I think they look at Fox, they look at Trouba, and Schneider and say to themselves -- this is the envy of the rest of the league on the right side, even if Schneider is a little raw. K'Andre Miller & Ryan Lindgren on the left, and really, you're laughing.

The Rangers are young. There isn't and shouldn't be a ton of urgency to start offloading. Miller has an extra year on his deal, so IMO he should be their top pursuit, but they've got other pieces to get it done. If not, there will be more opportunities for this team.

 

[Anthony5967]

Call me crazy, but I don't see the Rangers parting with Schneider for Miller. They have built a VERY good young team, and that's without getting much in the way of contributions from Laf & Kakko. On D, I think they look at Fox, they look at Trouba, and Schneider and say to themselves -- this is the envy of the rest of the league on the right side, even if Schneider is a little raw. K'Andre Miller & Ryan Lindgren on the left, and really, you're laughing.

The Rangers are young. There isn't and shouldn't be a ton of urgency to start offloading. Miller has an extra year on his deal, so IMO he should be their top pursuit, but they've got other pieces to get it done. If not, there will be more opportunities for this team.

Very well said. I’d love Miller. I can see why Nucks fans want Schneids. He’s a hell of a player already. But I’m not moving a cost controlled RHD Thats 20 and can do everything you’d want in a 6-2, 210 pound defender.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Nor should they. Let's stop overrating his value.

How about we stop overrating prospects?
Not the guy who’s over a PPG, Can play any forward position, any situation and is locked in at just over 5 for 2 more years

 

[Canadian Canuck]

You are not getting Rossi. Keep trying.

They’ll regret not making a big move. I would have loved to trade Cody Hodgson for a big name (Jeff Carter) in 2011-2012 to push us over the hump.

 

[John Mandalorian]

If Joe Sakic is willing, I can see him end up on Colorado. They have the prospects and picks to make a deal work.

No, Colorado doesn't have the prospects to make it work.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

No, Colorado doesn't have the prospects to make it work.

Yes they do. It's a question of whether or not Sakic wants to give them up

 

[John Mandalorian]

Yes they do. It's a question of whether or not Sakic wants to give them up

Take a guess.

Also, it depends on what you call a prospect.

Byram/Newhook is too much to give for JTM and Canucks fans won’t be happy with what’s left. The two teams aren’t good trade partners.

 

[bbny]

Could be completely wrong, but I saw on CDC that someone’s friend in the media said the current offer from NYR is Laff, 1st this year and 2nd next year, but Allvin is pulling the bust card on Laffy, saying that second needs to be upgraded to ensure we get an impact piece for Miller. This is for no retention.​

CDC eh? With bullshit like that, no wonder some people don't believe their data and recommendations on Covid

 

[Alluckks]

Got a feeling Miller doesn't get moved

 

[Paul Padovano]

Well, he is an american at the end of the day...

I thought I heard Vancouver's finest chanting "XENO PHOBIA" during the Miller OT winner game vs the Rangers! !! Does it bother J.T., is that why he wants out?

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Yes they do. It's a question of whether or not Sakic wants to give them up

Well you certainly aren't getting Byram or Newhook if that's what you're implying