Official Apple Thread (Apple iPhone Event) II

[M.C.G. 31]

$1,529 for the 256 GB version of the iPhone X in CAD$.

Holy. ****.

$1908 with AppleCare+ and tax (Ontario). **** that noise. That's a MacBook Pro right there. Or a god damn TV.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

No doubt. I don't disagree at all. Just the people and Apple themselves acting like this is brand new and amazing when people have been experiencing it for years.


Completely disagree. Microsoft Kinect was doing IR and dot scans for a long time. Like HawkFan pointed out though, they just do it better. And they are able to do it better by just doing your face. Kinect was doing everything in a room. It was quite capable of getting more detailed but again, got no support. However there were companies that unlocked this tech to do some really cool stuff with it but it wasn't mainstream. There was no need for it to be more detailed in the face. This is a phone. It's using tech that has been around for along time. It's just that it will hit more people because its an Apple iPhone.

I don't see how any of this is "far superior". They are just making it more mainstream. Again, that's what Apple does and they are masters at it.

You can completely disagree all you want. The Apple software and hardware appears to be much more advanced. There's a reason that they are considered to be actual years ahead of Qualcomm on it.

 

[The Moose]

$1,529 for the 256 GB version of the iPhone X in CAD$.

Holy. ****.

Holly **** indeed. Just curious, how is Face ID any more convenient than fingerprint? Or just to protect you against mobsters that are willing to steal your phone AND cut your fingers off?

Basically at this price I am expecting a phone with a butt hole scanner. You know those times you are at the pool, swimming with your goggles on, and cannot open your phone with a fingerprint sensor or face id, yet you want to check your Facebook feed? A butt hole scanner will solve all these problems. I want to be able to open my phone with my butt hole! Do it Apple!

 

[M.C.G. 31]

FaceID is there as the only way (along with passcode) to get in because they couldn't get TouchID under the screen.

But yeah, there's no way I could ever justify paying $1520 before tax for a phone. None. If I were upgrading this year I'd definitely be getting the 8 or 8+ on contract.

I wonder if the X has a software feature so video doesn't look ugly as hell with that top strip cutting into it.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

I am going with the 8+ right now. I will get whatever the sequel to the X is next year.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

FaceID is there as the only way (along with passcode) to get in because they couldn't get TouchID under the screen.

But yeah, there's no way I could ever justify paying $1520 before tax for a phone. None. If I were upgrading this year I'd definitely be getting the 8 or 8+ on contract.

I wonder if the X has a software feature so video doesn't look ugly as hell with that top strip cutting into it.

I think that it does since photos don't get the notch.

 

[The Moose]

Did the 8 go to OLED too, or only the X?

Another thing: I have an Android phone, but from reviews I like the Apple Watch as a sports (running) watch. Does it make sense to have an Apple watch without an IPhone?

 

[Theosis]

Did the 8 go to OLED too, or only the X?

Another thing: I have an Android phone, but from reviews I like the Apple Watch as a sports (running) watch. Does it make sense to have an Apple watch without an IPhone?

Only the X.

Which is why it's so much pricier IMO.

Once OLED is more mainstream, I don't believe the X or future phones should cost anywhere close to this much.

 

[chicagoskycam]

Did the 8 go to OLED too, or only the X?

Another thing: I have an Android phone, but from reviews I like the Apple Watch as a sports (running) watch. Does it make sense to have an Apple watch without an IPhone?

MMM... i guess you could but the cool thing is messages and calls you can take right now from your watch. The running ap, I mean you would be confined to viewing everything on the watch which doesn't provide as much info. I think it would be annoying. The entire point is to sync with the iphone health and data.

 

[The Moose]

Only the X.

Which is why it's so much pricier IMO.

Once OLED is more mainstream, I don't believe the X or future phones should cost anywhere close to this much.

Is the OLED technology the same as the AMOLED? I have an OP3 with AMOLED and it costs 1/3 of an IPhone?

 

[Hunter Gathers]

I actually think I am going to buy an Apple Watch, now, too. It seems like a mature enough product. Is the ceramic available in 38mm?

 

[The Moose]

MMM... i guess you could but the cool thing is messages and calls you can take right now from your watch. The running ap, I mean you would be confined to viewing everything on the watch which doesn't provide as much info. I think it would be annoying. The entire point is to sync with the iphone health and data.

Can't you use, for example, the Strava running up on the watch and then see the info on the Strava running up on the Android or desktop? Hmm, I guess it depends on how the watch uploads the info? Via an Iphone, or a direct connection to internet?

 

[Supermassive]

Is the OLED technology the same as the AMOLED? I have an OP3 with AMOLED and it costs 1/3 of an IPhone?

Yup. Doesn't justify the price increase at all, imo.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

My Series 0 Apple Watch's battery life isn't great

Planning to have it sent in to be replaced via AppleCare in the next couple weeks. They will automatically upgrade me to a Series 1 because Series 0 is discontinued

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

$1,529 for the 256 GB version of the iPhone X in CAD$.

Holy. ****.

You can buy a legit gaming PC for that money. That's ****ing embarrassing.

 

[karnige]

its a sweet phone but the ****..... 1500 can. wow..
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[chicagoskycam]

Can't you use, for example, the Strava running up on the watch and then see the info on the Strava running up on the Android or desktop? Hmm, I guess it depends on how the watch uploads the info? Via an Iphone, or a direct connection to internet?

I use Starva and the great thing about the watch 2 right now because it has GPS, I don't need to have my phone on me. But all the historic stuff you want to look at is going to be on the ap on your phone. Also the settings you want to use on your watch are set up on your phone.

You will have to do some searches for trying to do it without an iphone. I may sell my watch 2 and get the 3. Any good places for that other than Ebay?

 

[chicagoskycam]

Only the X.

Which is why it's so much pricier IMO.

Once OLED is more mainstream, I don't believe the X or future phones should cost anywhere close to this much.

And you have one supplier who happens to be their competition in terms of smart phones.

 

[VVV]

Don't want to start a fanboy war but this is basically 1530$ for pretty much the same stuff that's found on the S8 that is 700$ less.

Typical Apple where you pay for the brand name.

 

[Bjorn Le]

Is the OLED technology the same as the AMOLED? I have an OP3 with AMOLED and it costs 1/3 of an IPhone?

Yup. Doesn't justify the price increase at all, imo.

It's because Apple doesn't manufacture their own panels. They have to buy them from Samsung (they literally have no other option, for this year at least). They could buy their old panels for as low as $45, while their OLED screen is speculated to cost about $145 a panel. Samsung has zero reason to give them a hefty discount either, as OLED production can't keep up with demand. It's possible Apple is paying the most for OLED panels among any smartphone manufacturer.

I'm the first one to criticize Apple pricing schemes, but honestly, it's likely they're making less of a profit on iPhone X than they will on the iPhone 8 and 8+. In fact, I'd say it's almost certainly the case. I don't want to come across from defending Apple, they're way late to the party when it comes to adopting OLED, and I think MacBook's are the some of the most overpriced products on the market. But they could have realistically priced the X $100-200 more and they'd probably sell the exact same amount.

 

[The Moose]

It's because Apple doesn't manufacture their own panels. They have to buy them from Samsung (they literally have no other option, for this year at least). They could buy their old panels for as low as $45, while their OLED screen is speculated to cost about $145 a panel. Samsung has zero reason to give them a hefty discount either, as OLED production can't keep up with demand. It's possible Apple is paying the most for OLED panels among any smartphone manufacturer.

I'm the first one to criticize Apple pricing schemes, but honestly, it's likely they're making less of a profit on iPhone X than they will on the iPhone 8 and 8+. In fact, I'd say it's almost certainly the case. I don't want to come across from defending Apple, they're way late to the party when it comes to adopting OLED, and I think MacBook's are the some of the most overpriced products on the market. But they could have realistically priced the X $100-200 more and they'd probably sell the exact same amount.

I recently busted the screen (AMOLED) on my OnePlus 3, and OnePlus quoted me $80CAD for a replacement (+ shipping and installation costs). I have a hard time believing that Apple is paying $145USD per screen. I suspect OnePlus has the same supplier, Samsung.

 

[chicagoskycam]

I recently busted the screen (AMOLED) on my OnePlus 3, and OnePlus quoted me $80CAD for a replacement (+ shipping and installation costs). I have a hard time believing that Apple is paying $145USD per screen. I suspect OnePlus has the same supplier, Samsung.

But it's not the same screen.

 

[chicagoskycam]

Don't want to start a fanboy war but this is basically 1530$ for pretty much the same stuff that's found on the S8 that is 700$ less.

Typical Apple where you pay for the brand name.

Except all the same stuff on the S8 doesn't work well....

Is there where I say, Typical Samsung where you pay for features that won't work and you stop using.

 

[The Moose]

But it's not the same screen.

Aren't AMOLED and OLED the same? I thought all phones having an (Super)(AM)OLED screen habe basically the same screen. How is the X different?

 

[SJSharksfan39]

I was at work so I couldn't really reply to the poster who replied to me about the apple watch. The thing that I have against the watch is I don't really know what purpose it would serve for me. I own an SE but I was actually reading up on the watch when I got home and I do like the whole cellular thing being offered. That means I could barely even touch the phone and just work with the watch. Does the watch play music, because I know it plays podcasts which I would like. Also, if it is a fitness thing, that might be worth the investment.

In terms of the phones released today, man in a few years smart phones will be out of my price range. The reason I bought the SE and love the SE is because it's a cheap but powerful phone that's compact enough to still actually be a phone. I mean a felt the 6 and 6S and both felt just really big. I guess I'm just used to the whole idea of a phone still looking like a phone, meaning compact enough to fit in a jean pocket and held with one hand. I hope they come out with an upgraded SE next year because next year will be 2 years with this phone and I'm debating if I want to keep it (Which it still works so that's good), get an upgraded Apple phone, or just go to Android to reach into that ecosystem.