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[ULF_55]

Exactly there’s no better way to develop and become ready for this league except for playing in it and learning as you go.

If the player earns the opportunity.
If he isn't ready he should develop at a level he is ready for.

 

[ULF_55]

Don't have to waive Robertson nor Holmberg.

 

[SprDaVE]

Not sure that's such a good idea. Minten already looks better, and you can easily give him some more games to see if he can actually handle it and recall Holmberg if not. But if you just give the spot to Holmberg, you lose out on Minten for the whole year

Does he look that much better? I don't know about that one. They've both looked pretty good in their own right. Minten has the new shine to him. Holmberg is faster and has shown some good physicality/aggressiveness, and he was very good last year until he got injured.

Minten would benefit so much more playing tons of minutes in the WHL, get PP and PK minutes and a chance at the WJCs, instead of the 3rd/4th line minutes in the NHL. I don't even know how much PK he would play in the regular season. I really don't see the problem with him going back down for the full year. He isn't a top end player here, he's been good but people talk like he's a star.

 

[Mad hatter]

I didn’t mind Bogosian but he didn’t want to play in Canada, if I remember correctly. We don’t need players here that don’t want to be here, imho at least

 

[LeafChief]

I didn’t mind Bogosian but he didn’t want to play in Canada, if I remember correctly. We don’t need players here that don’t want to be here, imho at least

If I recall correctly, it had to do with Canada still having very strict COVID restrictions at the time. I don't think he has any issue with playing in Canada. He chose to come here at one point.

 

[SprDaVE]

I didn’t mind Bogosian but he didn’t want to play in Canada, if I remember correctly. We don’t need players here that don’t want to be here, imho at least

He'd probably go play anywhere that isn't the AHL. He liked Toronto but COVID made things very complicated. That's in the past now. Just look at Bertuzzi.

 

[jaric1862]

I think the Leafs keep Holmberg up and send down Minten.

I don't see why they wouldn't give Minten the 9 game audition. Once he is down he can't be called back up, wheras they can try Holmberg at 3C anytime throughout the year.

 

[Dion TheFluff]

so did Minten make the team or what?

 

[Stephen]

Does he look that much better? I don't know about that one. They've both looked pretty good in their own right. Minten has the new shine to him. Holmberg is faster and has shown some good physicality/aggressiveness, and he was very good last year until he got injured.

Minten would benefit so much more playing tons of minutes in the WHL, get PP and PK minutes and a chance at the WJCs, instead of the 3rd/4th line minutes in the NHL. I don't even know how much PK he would play in the regular season. I really don't see the problem with him going back down for the full year. He isn't a top end player here, he's been good but people talk like he's a star.

Only based on Minten's camp so far, but what makes him interesting is he looks like a 5 year pro across all 200 feet of ice in defensive and offensive situations and has a pro frame.

I'd agree that the typical development path would be back to the WHL, get to be a go to player at the WJC's and bake in that experience of being a front line player at a low level. But

 

[TMLAM34]

Minten looked better than Holmberg throughout the pre-season. Doesn’t make sense to send Minten down for the entire year when Holmberg can be sent down and called up without needing waivers. You might as well send Holmberg down, give Minten the 9 games and then make a final decision.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

At the very least Minten should stick around for his 9 game audition to see if he can beat out Holmberg for the 3C slot. He's earned that chance based on his pre-season play.

 

[ToDavid]

It's very interesting that McMann wasn't waived. Hopefully this doesn't indicate they aren't signing Gregor

I think he's still dealing with an injury so probably goes on season-opening injured reserve which is a weird thing for players on two-way contracts who aren't permanent NHLers. And I believe since he was injured playing for the Marlies it's $0 cap hit while he's injured.

Season Opening Injured Reserve | Puckpedia

Season Opening IR: If a player is on a 2-way contract & was on an NHL roster for less than 50 games played last year & is injured prior to opening roster, their Cap Hit while injured is pro-rated based on # of days on roster last year multiplied by the current year cap hit.

puckpedia.com

 

[Amadeus]

I think Minten is another year away. The grind of an 82 game season isn't what he's ready for right now. We'll just be burning a year unless we plan to send him back by within 9 games.

 

[Evilhomer]

At the very least Minten should stick around for his 9 game audition to see if he can beat out Holmberg for the 3C slot. He's earned that chance based on his pre-season play.

The challenge with both of those guys is that neither one of them can be the third line centre in the playoffs, so whichever one of them makes the team is likely sitting when the playoffs come around anyway. The Leafs will have to make a deal to fill the 3C position.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

The challenge with both of those guys is that neither one of them can be the third line centre in the playoffs, so whichever one of them makes the team is likely sitting when the playoffs come around anyway. The Leafs will have to make a deal to fill the 3C position.

Or Minton might be good enough to play 3C in the playoffs.

 

[Evilhomer]

Or Minton might be good enough to play 3C in the playoffs.

I don't know. Is he realistically a third line centre on a Stanley Cup team? That might be asking a heck of a lot from a kid his age.

 

[SprDaVE]

Coughlan was waived today. With Timmins out for awhile, he would be a good #7D to have around. He has good tools, and he would be a much better option than Benoit.

 

[hockeynorth]

The challenge with both of those guys is that neither one of them can be the third line centre in the playoffs, so whichever one of them makes the team is likely sitting when the playoffs come around anyway. The Leafs will have to make a deal to fill the 3C position.

I think minten could be. Big, sound defensively, and capable of producing seems like exactly what people here are going to want us to trade for.

 

[Lightsol]

Anyone want some of our old players back?

 

[notDatsyuk]

This is really the ideal #2 line, you could make a case for Knies over Domi but no way should Nylander be on the 3rd line...massive waste

Agreed, but Tavares and Nylander on the same in is also a waste.

JT should be in the third line.

 

[Mitch nylander]

Any news on who was re-assigned to Junior/Marlies of the: Holmberg, Robertson, Minten crew.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Is there any risk of Holmberg going back to Europe if he's sent down? That would be bad. Whether he makes opening night or not, I think we're going to need him at some point this season.

 

[Thornbury]

Is there any risk of Holmberg going back to Europe if he's sent down? That would be bad. Whether he makes opening night or not, I think we're going to need him at some point this season.

I believe he gets paid his $800k salary regardless of whether he's in the NHL or AHL, a one way contract. I agree that the Leafs need to give him an opportunity at some point this year to get more time with the big squad and further develop.

 

[TMLAM34]

I don’t get why people are saying Minten isn’t ready. So far through camp, he’s shown us he’s definitely ready.

Can he handle the 82 game grind? Only one way to find out. There’s been plenty of 19 year olds who make it to the NHL nowadays.

Minten’s game is exactly what we need from a third line center.

 

[SprDaVE]