Official 2023 NHL Draft Thread

[deadhead]

I dont think so given what he has done while being pretty physically immature in the KHL... as well as what he has done at u-18 international level at 16 years old!

He would be the #1 pick in more drafts than not this century based on upside and talent alone.

Now, yeh, "generational" I would only attach to forwards like Jagr, Lindros, Crosby, Ovechkin, McDavid over the last ~35 years.

But he could for sure be Kucherov, Matthews, MacKinnon level. In fact if he just develops "normally" from here he will be a star.

Kucherov yes, Matthews maybe. MacKinnon is a center who has shown he can do more than score points.
Centers are more valuable, two way centers who can score at elite levels are most valuable.

Kucherov has benefited from a lot of talent around him.
He's had a couple great seasons, some off seasons, some injury seasons. Top flight playoff performer, which elevates his value.

Would you want to add a Kucherov? Sure. Would you make a Lindros/Pronger trade to get one? Doubtful.

If he falls to #7, Briere has the luxury of leaving him in Russia and making it clear he can wait, Michkov isn't turning down big money in dollars for lesser money in rubles, the Russian economy is going to tank forever (b/c the shift to electric cars is going to stagnate the oil market indefinitely).

 

[Pet Charles]

I haven’t heard Russ say that he thinks they will select Moore. I have heard him say HE would have them selecting Moore (based on how the majority thinks 1-6 will go, i.e., Smith, Michkov gone by 6).

 

[macleish1974]

Benson Attacks the Puck. He wants the puck like I want Salma Hayek. In the offense zone get it and do something with it; even if only means a few seconds more in the offensive zone. In the neutral and defensive zones get the puck back, that stick of his is on a swivel; if they don’t have it, then you do. he is Always attacking the puck. All the above is Benson.

for those of you who don’t know, Bobby Clarke weighed about 140-150 lbs going into the playoffs.

 

[Unger9]

what do we think of Bradley Nadeau?

 

[Gregor Samsa]

I wouldn’t be upset with Leonard. He probably won’t have an eye popping stat sheet but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s a do-it-all 30 goal 60 point rich man’s Ryan Callahan. Not “the” star of the team but a valuable piece that every team will want.

 

[BernieParent]

I wouldn’t be upset with Leonard. He probably won’t have an eye popping stat sheet but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s a do-it-all 30 goal 60 point rich man’s Ryan Callahan. Not “the” star of the team but a valuable piece that every team will want.

In my eyes, minimally informed as they are, Leonard is an okay option if the first 6 picks go the worst way possible for the Flyers. But this team is not a rich man, which is the problem with getting a Callahan-esque player -- if he is an accurate comparator -- with the 7OA in a deep draft.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

In my eyes, minimally informed as they are, Leonard is an okay option if the first 6 picks go the worst way possible for the Flyers. But this team is not a rich man, which is the problem with getting a Callahan-esque player -- if he is an accurate comparator -- with the 7OA in a deep draft.

Yeah, he wouldn’t be my first choice but I wouldn’t be upset. He’s in that group of prospects where I’ll be alright if they take him. Unless the Flyers go wildly off the board, I expect I’ll be content

 

[Redpath]

 

[Curufinwe]

Leonard screams chasing the Matthew Tkachuk craze, and getting a 50 point guy.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Jones was on 975 again reiterating the blueline is the most important part of the team.

 

[TB87]

Eww

 

[BiggE]

Depends what you define as generational. He has the potential to be a ~110+ point player in the current scoring climate.

And on talent? He should not go lower than 2nd. But yeh, Caps would not be paying some crazy price to move up for him if there with Flyers.

I don’t think he makes it past #4. Either San Jose takes him or Washington pays a steep ransom to move up 4 spots.

Take this for what it’s worth, but here’s how I see the top 6 going
1. CHI Bedard
2. ANA Fantilli
3. CLM Carlsson
4. SJS or WAS Michkov
5. MTL Smith
6. ARI Benson

My guess is the Flyers take either Leonard or Reinbacher here. I also wouldn’t rule out a deal. I could see Detroit, if there’s a player they really want, moving 9OA and one of their 2nd rounders for 7OA.

I also wouldn’t be surprised if the Flyers move one of Hart/Laughton/TK and acquire another 1st before next Wednesday.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

My completely unscientific and unreliable wishlist for the first round picks assuming we stay at 7 and 22 and assuming no one unexpected falls, which also has changed and will change a thousand times before the actual draft in no particular order (other than Michkov is the preferred pick at 7 if he is there):

Pick 7:
Michkov
Benson
Reinbacher
Dvorsky
Perrault

Pick 22:
Bonk
But
Stenberg
Heidt
Sandin-Pellika
Stramel
Wood

 

[Rebels57]

Leonard screams chasing the Matthew Tkachuk craze, and getting a 50 point guy.

Exactly what I was thinking.

 

[Sizzle Chest]

Seems like the the Flyers want to create the illusion anything is possible vs the old way of telegraphing. Last year many felt the Flyers would take Gauthier. This year feels different. C/W/D all seem legitimately on the table. If Michkov is there at 7, please take him! If not, I’m torn between Benson, Leonard and Moore. Reinbacher is interesting too. We have the option to pick a good player and or trade down and still get a player we like plus gain much needed draft capital. For the first time in a while I am intrigued.

 

[Tarpongg]

Gulyayev would be my dream at 22 tbh.

I think he has the highest upside of any Dman in this draft.

What are your feelings on Simashev? I know smahtscouting has him at 10 overall, do you concur?

It seems 7 is too early, and he won’t be there at 22…

 

[Curufinwe]

I wouldn't mind trading back with Washington and let them take the Russian if he's still there at #7.

7th for 8th + 40th.

 

[Rebels57]

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Eww

If there's one group of scouts I absolutely do not trust to draft defensemen, especially after the 1st round, it's the Flyers scouts.

Philadelphia Flyers Draft History at hockeydb.com

www.hockeydb.com

 

[FLYguy3911]

It seems 7 is too early, and he won’t be there at 22…

We’ll see what McKenzie says but I think there is a chance he makes it to the 20s.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

My top 3 for pick #7:

Smith (if he falls)
Michkov (if he falls)
Benson

 

[Columbus Hockey Dad]

My top 3 for pick #7:

Smith (if he falls)
Michkov (if he falls)
Benson

I think there's a chance that all three are gone...

 

[Flyerfan13]

The athletic poll of the top 60 players as to who is the most talented player they played with or against Bedard excluded. Definitely worth the sub for reading material for those that don't have it.

 

[Rich Nixon]

Leonard screams chasing the Matthew Tkachuk craze, and getting a 50 point guy.

Yeah but he's HUNGRY FOR MORE and ready to BRING IT TO BROAD to deliver VENGEANCE NOW in a NEW ERA OF ORANGE.

Shoot me in the dick.

 

[Appleyard]

What are your feelings on Simashev? I know smahtscouting has him at 10 overall, do you concur?

It seems 7 is too early, and he won’t be there at 22…

I am lower on him that some of my colleagues. He has all the tools but I just see him more likely ending up a 2nd pairing guy.

I would be happy with him if he fell to 22 but prefer Gulyayev by some way.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

I wouldn't mind trading back with Washington and let them take the Russian if he's still there at #7.

7th for 8th + 40th.

I'm on that as well but I bet they can squeeze them for more than 40th. Maybe throw in a prospect as well (Iorio? Lapierre?).