OT: Official 2014 Patriots/NFL Thread - III

[BigBadBruin8]

That RtP call was complete BS, and I hate both these teams. I mean Christ, that's the poster hit for the ********* NFL. Can't hit a QB in the chest with any force any more, that's a penalty now.

 

[Seidenbergy]

hate it if you want, but it was the right call.

 

[Lobster57]

hate it if you want, but it was the right call.

In 10 years it's going to be two-hand touch and you'll have to do 3 steamboats.

 

[Ten Thousand Hours]

I love how people complain about how dangerous the sport is and then complain about roughing the passer calls.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Phil Simms is the current day Joe Morgan

 

[chizzler]

Phil Simms is the current day Joe Morgan

He just doesn't like the Steelers.

 

[chizzler]

Personal fouls in this game were total bogus calls. Steelers getting hosed.

 

[Seidenbergy]

Personal fouls in this game were total bogus calls. Steelers getting hosed.

3 turnovers to 0 for the ravens
10 fewer mins of possession

But it was clearly those 3 penalties for a grand total of 15 yds thay hosed them.....

 

[bruins309]

Phil Simms is the current day Joe Morgan

I highly recommend the Phil Simms Quotes twitter feed that puts his most absurd stuff from the game out there. It also keeps track of how many times he says "talked about" i.e. "We talked about..."

Last night's game set a record with 39 "talked about" uses.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

He just doesn't like the Steelers.

Uh, no. He is just that bad.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

I watched bits of the game, didn't see the RTP call, but I thought the one on Hightower last week was BS. He did not force Tannehill into the turf, he just fell on him, which kinda sorta happens when you tackle somebody. Pretty unavoidable due to this thing called gravity. I didn't think the Jones hits were particularly bad either (and the ref waited 5 min to make one of the calls), but if you make contact with the head, they are going to call it, no matter how slight or accidental.

I get the whole idea of protecting the QB's because they are the marquee players. However, the issue I have is that some of these QB's are as big/bigger than the guys tackling them, and if they can't be hit, they just continue to make plays (see Rothlisberger, Newton). I think the defensive players have a very difficult task trying to hit the QB's "clean" when you can't go low, you can't go high, and sometimes you can't hit them in the chest either. There's almost no way you can lay a big hit on a QB these days without getting flagged.

Guys like Grogan and Stabler must see stuff like this and wonder why they didn't have these rules to keep them safe

 

[GarbageGoal]

To be honest, that's the first time in awhile I've seen Roethlisberger draw a roughing call like that. He usually seems to be put in the "He's a big boy, he can take it" category, because I've seen him take some questionable shots with no call, and if it was Brady or Manning, fines and suspensions would be levied instantly.

 

[KrejciMVP]

good article and I agree, social media outrage is all a fraud

http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/g...-ray-rice-incident-reminded-us-we-should-be-a

 

[Lobster57]

I watched bits of the game, didn't see the RTP call, but I thought the one on Hightower last week was BS. He did not force Tannehill into the turf, he just fell on him, which kinda sorta happens when you tackle somebody. Pretty unavoidable due to this thing called gravity. I didn't think the Jones hits were particularly bad either (and the ref waited 5 min to make one of the calls), but if you make contact with the head, they are going to call it, no matter how slight or accidental.

I get the whole idea of protecting the QB's because they are the marquee players. However, the issue I have is that some of these QB's are as big/bigger than the guys tackling them, and if they can't be hit, they just continue to make plays (see Rothlisberger, Newton). I think the defensive players have a very difficult task trying to hit the QB's "clean" when you can't go low, you can't go high, and sometimes you can't hit them in the chest either. There's almost no way you can lay a big hit on a QB these days without getting flagged.

Guys like Grogan and Stabler must see stuff like this and wonder why they didn't have these rules to keep them safe

I know the NFL is "entertainment" and that concussions are a real problem, but it's funny that the hit on Rothlisberger, which was to his chest and didn't hurt him draws a flag but the hit to Brown(?) was to the head and he had to leave the game for a bit didn't.

Also, as a fan of defensive play (and running the ball) i hate how every year the league makes it harder for DBs to cover. Its gotten so that slightly underthrowing a guy down the sideline is pretty much an automatic PI call.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Wonder if he will play Sunday?

Minnesota Vikings superstar Adrian Peterson has reportedly been indicted for child abuse in North Montgomery County, TX.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/12/adrian-peterson-indicted-for-child-abuse/

 

[Shaun]

****ed up considering what happened with him last year.

 

[qc]

What a ****ed up week for the NFL.

Hopefully the child is okay and the facts come out soon. I have an extreme level of intolerance for anyone who messes with children in any way.

 

[Ten Thousand Hours]

****ed up considering what happened with him last year.

How is the death of one son relevant in how he disciplines his other son? He may have crossed a line. But not sure why what happened last year makes a difference.

 

[qc]

How is the death of one son relevant in how he disciplines his other son? He may have crossed a line. But not sure why what happened last year makes a difference.

I don't think Shaun was necessarily saying that they were related, but that it's troubling/bizarre/shocking to learn of this recent news, when his other son ultimately died from child abuse not too long ago.

 

[dabid]

thank u to the North Montgomery, TX courts for inditing him the week of the Patriots game

 

[Blitzkrug]

What the **** is this league coming to.

The term "model citizen" means jack in the NFL now with Rice and if this happens to have any serious accusations behind it.

 

[Shaun]

I don't think Shaun was necessarily saying that they were related, but that it's troubling/bizarre/shocking to learn of this recent news, when his other son ultimately died from child abuse not too long ago.

exactly.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Under texas law:

[Texas Statutes]

Abuse does not include reasonable discipline by a parent/guardian/managing or possessory conservator if child not exposed to substantial risk of harm. Family Code § 261.001. [Civil Code] Parent/stepparent/person standing in loco parentis to child is justified to use non-deadly force against a child under 18 when and to degree the actor reasonably believes necessary to discipline, or safeguard or promote child's welfare. Penal § 9.61. [Criminal Code]

There's more to this than the switch. That would be considered legal under Texas law.

 

[Seidenbergy]

Wonder if he will play Sunday?



http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/12/adrian-peterson-indicted-for-child-abuse/

unless tmz can come up with a video of him hitting the boy in the next 36 hrs, he's good to go.

 

[EverettMike]

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2014/09/12/adrian-peterson-indicted-for-child-abuse/

What in the living **** can a four year old do that makes you beat him like that?