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All indications are that the Sabres will pay their own players when the time comes to re-sign them. I hope this is the case.

There have been weird rumblings that they are concerned with Olofsson's arbitration award.

The fact of the matter is that they haven't signed a player to longer than a 3 year deal since Skinner. I hope that they weren't burnt by the Skinner deal (and others) that they won't pay term when it is prudent and needed in the future.

I just hope that the need to fill out the prospect pipeline is about winning the Stanley Cup and not about having cheap players to replace veterans who don't want to be here (ie file arbitration/play hard ball with negotiations).

I just don't want to be perpetually in a state needing to develop the prospects by not blocking them at the NHL level.
 
Jacob582 said:
Talking about PK Subban

Duffer: "I saw LA was maybe now in the rumor mill"
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Darren Dreger: "LA to me, makes a lot of sense"
Duffer: "I agree"

I thought LA had a ton of RHD. This seems crazy.
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They do, they have more RD than they know what to do with and not enough room for all of the prospects.

Doughty, Roy, Spence, Walker, Durzi, Clarke, Grans, Faber and some depth guys. It's like they are collecting all the RD to corner the market or something.
 
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Jacob582 said:
All indications are that the Sabres will pay their own players when the time comes to re-sign them. I hope this is the case.

There have been weird rumblings that they are concerned with Olofsson's arbitration award.

The fact of the matter is that they haven't signed a player to longer than a 3 year deal since Skinner. I hope that they weren't burnt by the Skinner deal (and others) that they won't pay term when it is prudent and needed in the future.

I just hope that the need to fill out the prospect pipeline is about winning the Stanley Cup and not about having cheap players to replace veterans who don't want to be here (ie file arbitration/play hard ball with negotiations).

I just don't want to be perpetually in a state needing to develop the prospects by not blocking them at the NHL level.
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I think Adams has earned more trust along w Granato to not have the old sabres gm coach tone in a post like that until they actually do something glaringly ridiculous.. They have not so far.. They have been more than honorable and have reaped rewards from this group. . skinner to okposo to the youth no offense but unless you know something certain I expect then to continue to be honorable .. prospect to old vet and hopefully staff .. all seem to enjoy being here ......as was the case from 1970 to 2006.. This narrative of woe and trouble needs a eulogy w their return to sabres roots
 
Jim Bob said:


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For what it's worth with Blackwood having difficulties with the NJ front office, you might be able to get a 25-26 year old goalie on the cheap. Now obviously, you have to be concerned with the consistent injuries, but ...it's still worth it to consider. I like Beauvillier's game a bit. I think he's a sneaky play to get if he's truly available. However, again, I don't want to blow up the draft capital and discontinue the pipeline we're building. So valuing the right targets for the right price is where I fall.
 
Zman5778 said:
Stone-cold lock. And what do we think of him? He's EXACTLY what we want as a foil to Dahlin/Power/Jokiharu.
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I own him in my dynasty league acquired him last year around the trade deadline and Ive fallen in love with him.
Im usually biased towards my players and think they are better than they are but I dont think Id trade him unless it was an incredible overpayment
as a Leafs fan I dont get to watch the Sabers too often
 
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I'd give up 9+ for Bratt (with a long-term extension in place). He's one of my favorite guys to watch in the league, only 23 and just had a 73 pts in 76 game season.
 
TehDoak said:
Fine make it the 28th or even our 2nd rounder. Karlsson's contract isn't great, but its around market rate.

The biggest issue is term and his age. 5 years left at the age of 29. So he'll be 34 when the contract is done. He's still producing at above a .6 PPG clip, still wins faceoff and still plays the PK.

Find me a 40-50 pt center who can win faceoffs and play the PK who is actually available and I'll show you a worse contract.

Ryan Strome has essentially identical numbers, doesn't win the faceoffs, will be 29 this summer, and can't PK....and will likely get over 5 years and 6M per.
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I’d rather target Stephenson. His contract is a steal and he can be plugged into any center spot. He also doesn’t have any trade restrictions like Karlsson does.
 
Rather than take bob, I'd look to play the salary retention game.

Florida retains 3, sabres retain 2, Edmonton gets a starter that's under 40, sabres get an asset from each

Pipe dream:
Bob 3m retain, hornqvist, gudas, lundell -> olofsson, 28

Bob 2m retain -> pool party
 
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My Cozen Dylan said:
If Jesper Bratt is available, I'd be all over that.
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why?
hes 2 yrs from being a UFA and at winger.

you have at least 20 other wingers out there who is an RFA now/ 1 Yr to UFA, 2 yrs to UFA.

BratFiala
Boesser
Pasternak
Tkachuk
Forsberg
Johnie hockey
Huberdeau
Miller
Laine
Ajo
nylander
Matthews
Schieffle
and others

lets also not forget buffalo have drafted 6 wingers in the top 65 in the last two drafts. 2 wingers in Buffalo top 6 winger spots are under contract the next 4 yrs

jc17 said:
Rather than take bob, I'd look to play the salary retention game.

Florida retains 3, sabres retain 2, Edmonton gets a starter that's under 40, sabres get an asset from each

Pipe dream:
Bob 4m retain, hornqvist, gudas, lundell -> olofsson, 28

Bob 2m retain -> pool party
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buffalo better get much more than that to end up paying Bob after bonus money this year $5.7M in actual dollar.
 
Djp said:
why?
hes 2 yrs from being a UFA and at winger.

you have at least 20 other wingers out there who is an RFA now/ 1 Yr to UFA, 2 yrs to UFA.

BratFiala
Boesser
Pasternak
Tkachuk
Forsberg
Johnie hockey
Huberdeau
Miller
Laine
Ajo
nylander
Matthews
Schieffle
and others

lets also not forget buffalo have drafted 6 wingers in the top 65 in the last two drafts. 2 wingers in Buffalo top 6 winger spots are under contract the next 4 yrs



buffalo better get much more than that to end up paying Bob after bonus money this year $5.7M in actual
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Edit, I think I missed the mechanics of this. Why is buffalo the one paying the bonus
 
Djp said:
why?
hes 2 yrs from being a UFA and at winger.
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It's not uncommon for a team trading for a guy in his position to be allowed to negotiate a new contract before a trade. ie; Reinhart

Djp said:
lets also not forget buffalo have drafted 6 wingers in the top 65 in the last two drafts. 2 wingers in Buffalo top 6 winger spots are under contract the next 4 yrs
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3 scoring lines that aren't putrid defensively and 1 lock down defensive 4th line is a good thing in today's roster construction. It's also not difficult for wingers to mix/match on their off wing if needed.

Kinda moot since I doubt him and NJ don't come to agreement, but those reasons above aren't a reason to not be interested.
 
joshjull said:
I’d rather target Stephenson. His contract is a steal and he can be plugged into any center spot. He also doesn’t have any trade restrictions like Karlsson does.
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His bargain contract makes it highly unlikely vegas moves him unless we're helping them out in their cap situation some significant way.
 
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Zach47 said:
It's not uncommon for a team trading for a guy in his position to be allowed to negotiate a new contract before a trade. ie; Reinhart


3 scoring lines that aren't putrid defensively and 1 lock down defensive 4th line is a good thing in today's roster construction. It's also not difficult for wingers to mix/match on their off wing if needed.

Kinda moot since I doubt him and NJ don't come to agreement, but those reasons above aren't a reason to not be interested.
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that’s not what I’m talking about.

why target him givrn buffalo depth. Why target him given others on the market.

Bratt isn’t all that different than what Buffalo already has
 
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