Blue Jays Discussion: Off-Season Pt V: Spring(er) has Sprung: Jays sign OF George Springer (6y/$150m)

[Discoverer]

Reports: Reliever Yates, Blue Jays agree to deal

I haven't seen this posted yet, but I may be blind

Also Brantley seems like a likely signing eh?

Wow things are escalating quickly

It was discussed yesterday, but it was quickly overshadowed by Springer, so it would be easy to miss! Yates is a really nice addition.

 

[Amadeus]

I like Gurriel quite a bit so I'm torn on Brantley who is great in his own right.

 

[BlueForever75]

Who are your sources? Not specifically, just generally speaking.

I’d assume the deal would include Grichuk?

My sources are those that work in the Jays offices and I will leave it at that. The deal doesnt necessarily involve Grichuk moving out. Gurriel and Teo are options as well depending on the options to acquire.

The goal of this front office is to better balance the lineup now. It is very right handed specific. They were interested in Moustakas prior to him signing with the Reds. The goal at the time was to play him 2B when Guerrero was future at 3rd. Their views have changed and Guerrero is slotted to play 1B.

Adding 2 players like Brantley and Moustakas both LH hitters balances the lineup in a big way. The deal I am hearing is Teo, Roark, Zeuch, Martinez for Gray and Moustakas. The reasoning to keep Grichuk is because of his versatility to play all 3 OF spots.

Take it for what its worth. But thats what I am hearing

 

[phillipmike]

Springer's bat is even better than you think

But when you think of Springer, do you think of him as a top-10 hitter across the Major Leagues? Well, if you haven’t yet, now is the time to start.

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The Commissioner’s report concluded, however, that the Astros abandoned their sign-stealing system at some point during the 2018 season. So if one draws a line at the start of the ‘19 campaign, and assumes Springer has played on the level since then, his performance is elite.
Springer, since start of 2019: .284/.376/.576, 53 HR, 128 RBIs, 12.6 AB per HR

 

[leafsfan2point0]

If we end up signing Brantley, can we dump Grichuk instead of Gurriel? If we end up trading Gurriel which SP can we get?

 

[Cloned]

My sources are those that work in the Jays offices and I will leave it at that. The deal doesnt necessarily involve Grichuk moving out. Gurriel and Teo are options as well depending on the options to acquire.

The goal of this front office is to better balance the lineup now. It is very right handed specific. They were interested in Moustakas prior to him signing with the Reds. The goal at the time was to play him 2B when Guerrero was future at 3rd. Their views have changed and Guerrero is slotted to play 1B.

Adding 2 players like Brantley and Moustakas both LH hitters balances the lineup in a big way. The deal I am hearing is Teo, Roark, Zeuch, Martinez for Gray and Moustakas. The reasoning to keep Grichuk is because of his versatility to play all 3 OF spots.

Take it for what its worth. But thats what I am hearing

Hmm, not sure I’d like that trade tbh. I’d personally keep Teo. I’d keep Gurriel too.

 

[theaub]

If we end up signing Brantley, can we dump Grichuk instead of Gurriel? If we end up trading Gurriel which SP can we get?

Think Grichuk is gone either way at this point.

If you sign Brantley you have Gurriel/Brantley/Springer/Tesocar and you still have Rowdy/Vlad at 1B/DH too. Not enough AB's to go around.

I am still on the 'I'll believe when I see it' assumption on Vlad playing 3B.

 

[Discoverer]

Fun fact: Brantley had a wRC+ of 134 in 2020. That's awesome! But it also ranks him behind all of Springer, Teoscar, and Gurriel from last year.

If they can bring in Brantley and move Grichuk out instead of Teo or Gurriel, that would be awesome.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I would keep Teo and Gurriel even with a Brantley signing. Injuries happen and having depth is really never a bad thing ever really.

 

[phillipmike]

Law: Blue Jays act their size by landing George Springer

Keith Law: "The Springer agreement probably cements Cavan Biggio’s return to second base, where he’s a below-average defender, and his inability to hit major-league quality fastballs — exploited by Tampa Bay in the playoffs — makes him a liability at the plate as well. "

 

[BertCorbeau]

Law: Blue Jays act their size by landing George Springer

Lol Law is a tool

 

[Discoverer]

Law: Blue Jays act their size by landing George Springer

Haha holy shit, he continues to one-up himself.

 

[thehockeysong]

Law: Blue Jays act their size by landing George Springer

Pretty fantastic that he won't let that go. You've gotta love it. I for one look forward to the day he becomes an all star and Law says "oh I was just kidding to get Jays fans mad"

 

[Discoverer]

The deal I am hearing is Teo, Roark, Zeuch, Martinez for Gray and Moustakas.

That's a really, really terrible deal for the Jays.

 

[Starry Knight]

Law: Blue Jays act their size by landing George Springer

Never change, Keith.

 

[theaub]

Yes Keith!

 

[Drew311]

If Brantley rumour is true and we assume Gurriel is traded for a SP.

CF - Springer
SS - Bichette
LF - Brantley
DH - Hernandez
2B - Biggio
3B - Vladdy
1B - Tellez
RF - Grichuk
C - Kirk/Jansen

Still think we need a 3B to round things out and push Grichuk out of the lineup, but looks pretty nice.

 

[phillipmike]

 

[howlman]

Things heating up!

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Law: Blue Jays act their size by landing George Springer

Another swing and a miss from Keith.

 

[phillipmike]

 

[Tony Romo]

oh baby

 

[Cor]

Brad Hand and Michael Brantley next? Let's do this thing

 

[BlueForever75]

If this were to happen the Jays will have a dominant bullpen. Yates and Hand are proven closers and would give us the dominant 1-2 punch that the Jays havent had since Henke and Ward. But one arm we signed that people are sleeping on is Chatwood. This guy can throw the heat and since Chicago moved him to bullpen he had been lights out.

Yates
Hand
Romano
Dolis
Chatwood
Cole
Borucki
Stripling
Yamaguchi

I know that list is 2 too many for a bullpen. But gives the Jays options in deals. You would have to think if Hand is signed that Cole, Stripling and Yamaguchi would be dangled or made a part of future deals.

 

[SDig14]