Blue Jays Discussion: Off-Season Pt V: Spring(er) has Sprung: Jays sign OF George Springer (6y/$150m)

[TopChedder]

Is there a reason we announced Kirby Yates officially and not Springer?

It's honestly making me feel a tad uneasy. Kirby is now shown to be a member of the Jay's and Springer is still classified as a free agent.

Nobody finds that a tad strange?

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

Realmuto seems like the most impactful player we can add to our roster via free agency now.

Posey is making around 22 million a year, which is where his average should be at.

The move improves our defense down the middle (especially throwing), pitching staff (by game calling/defense/confidence in blocking), and offense. Also allows us to move some of our catching depth for a good pitcher.

Jansen + for Castillo from the Reds?

 

[Canada4Gold]

Not likely the Jays plan nor ideal but at the moment Grichuk is in RF, Hernandez is DH, Vlad is at 3B and Tellez is at 1B. Everyone is in the lineup.

C Jansen
1B Tellez
2B Biggio
SS Bichette
3B Guerrero Jr.
RF Grichuk
CF Springer
LF Gurriel
DH Hernandez

It will be interesting too because at the moment we don’t have a bench unless we plan on using McGuire, Fisher, Espinal and Kirk again this season, which I doubt. I assume 3 of those guys don’t start on the Jays opening day roster.

I sort of expect Espinal and 1 of McGuire/Kirk on the roster. I would guess the other 2 bench players are people not currently in the organization or Grichuk/Tellez pending other acquisations.

I would also assume they won't just gift 3B to Vlad, I expect someone will be brought in to play 3B who could probably could play other positions too if needed.

 

[Dr.Funk]

Is there a reason we announced Kirby Yates officially and not Springer?

It's honestly making me feel a tad uneasy. Kirby is now shown to be a member of the Jay's and Springer is still classified as a free agent.

Nobody finds that a tad strange?

Not at all. Sometimes it can be days even a week before signings are officially announced

 

[Canada4Gold]

Is there a reason we announced Kirby Yates officially and not Springer?

It's honestly making me feel a tad uneasy. Kirby is now shown to be a member of the Jay's and Springer is still classified as a free agent.

Nobody finds that a tad strange?

Yates was known in the media earlier. Probably had his medical earlier. If we go more than another day then perhaps get worried. Usually takes a day or 2 before it becomes official.

 

[FlareKnight]

Is there a reason we announced Kirby Yates officially and not Springer?

It's honestly making me feel a tad uneasy. Kirby is now shown to be a member of the Jay's and Springer is still classified as a free agent.

Nobody finds that a tad strange?

I can understand a bit of unease considering the big signing this is. But yeah, it's fine. The reports did talk about it pending a physical so that has to be taken care of first. Likely things moved faster on that front with Yates that's all. I don't think everyone would be reporting it with such concrete terms if it wasn't set. Or at least the player himself would have said "umm wait a second" after a few hours had passed.

It should be fine.

 

[TopChedder]

Not at all. Sometimes it can be days even a week before signings are officially announced

I was hoping that as well

 

[TopChedder]

Yates was known in the media earlier. Probably had his medical earlier. If we go more than another day then perhaps get worried. Usually takes a day or 2 before it becomes official.

Fair

 

[TopChedder]

I can understand a bit of unease considering the big signing this is. But yeah, it's fine. The reports did talk about it pending a physical so that has to be taken care of first. Likely things moved faster on that front with Yates that's all. I don't think everyone would be reporting it with such concrete terms if it wasn't set. Or at least the player himself would have said "umm wait a second" after a few hours had passed.

It should be fine.

Makes sense.

I guess after today it got me thinking too much lol

 

[TopChedder]

Realmuto seems like the most impactful player we can add to our roster via free agency now.

Posey is making around 22 million a year, which is where his average should be at.

The move improves our defense down the middle (especially throwing), pitching staff (by game calling/defense/confidence in blocking), and offense. Also allows us to move some of our catching depth for a good pitcher.

Jansen + for Castillo from the Reds?

I would love this.

 

[Brock Boeser Laser Show]

Is there a reason we announced Kirby Yates officially and not Springer?

It's honestly making me feel a tad uneasy. Kirby is now shown to be a member of the Jay's and Springer is still classified as a free agent.

Nobody finds that a tad strange?

Likely 40 man roster reasons. A lot of moves don't get officially announced until they figure out who they are going to remove from the 40 man. Plus they might also have other moves coming down the pipe that have 40 man implications.

 

[TopChedder]

Likely 40 man roster reasons. A lot of moves don't get officially announced until they figure out who they are going to remove from the 40 man. Plus they might also have other moves coming down the pipe that have 40 man implications.

Oh crap! I didn't think of that!

I can see it being that.

 

[BAM]

If I'm the Jays I do everything I can to sign Bauer and then offer the Reds Kirk+Martinez+ for Castillo.

1. Ryu
2. Bauer
3. Castillo
4. Pearson
5. Ray

The offence with Springer and that rotation would have the Jays as favourites for the East imo. If Pearson hits on his potential and Bauer shows that he is consistently an ace then that would be the best rotation in baseball imo. That rotation could potentially have 4 aces.

Assuming Bauer gets 25-30 million AAV, the payroll would be around $130 million with Roark + Grichuk $22 million still available to be blasted off into the sun team Rocket style.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Has there been anything reported on bringing back Walker?

 

[DJB]

After the last 24 hours, all I want is more action...

Now you know what cocaine feels like...

 

[BlueForever75]

In before BlueForever75 says that a last minute mistake by Hazel ruined the whole deal which is why he was wrong.

Fellow Blue Jay fans,

It is with regret that I passed on information to you all prior to Hazel Mae and other reputable baseball insiders such as Olsney, Rothenthal, Passan and Gammons about the possible Brantley signing.

Myself and all these other reputable insiders were lead to believe that a deal with Brantley was completed with the Blue Jays. I will hold firm that the deal with Brantley was in place a month prior to the Springer signing, and it was fully dependent on the eventual Springer signing. Hazel and others know this same information hence the reason for Twitter and other media outlets reporting the signing .

My source which I will repeat again is the same possible source that I, Hazel and other local insiders such as Vendetta has holds true to what we reported and other baseball insiders. The Jays had Brantley on a 3yr deal. You can all rip Hazel and I apart as much as you would like, while covering and following reputable insiders and posting their tweets. But although we reported the Brantley signing first, reputable insiders followed with the same information.

This does not make us any less of an insider then the ones currently employed by high ranking sports news outlets. It only proves that even those that get paid handsomely can be just as wrong as myself.

I will hold true to my information that I passed along. As the other insiders havent provided any explanation, I only have that to say.

Toronto Blue Jays front office is not happy today. This I can pass on. Specifics on what went array are unknown, other then the Jays dropped initial 3yr offer to 2yr and Houston was given an opportunity match or beat. Why they dropped their offer, is unknown. But there are unhappy front office people today with how this whole situation unfolded.

I can though report that the Jays are indeed in discussions and have been more aggressively with Reds the past 24 hours. No specifics at this time. But we can all assume it has to do with a possible Lindor type trade. One that includes a SP and INF.

 

[ER89]

Fellow Blue Jay fans,

It is with regret that I passed on information to you all prior to Hazel Mae and other reputable baseball insiders such as Olsney, Rothenthal, Passan and Gammons about the possible Brantley signing.

Myself and all these other reputable insiders were lead to believe that a deal with Brantley was completed with the Blue Jays. I will hold firm that the deal with Brantley was in place a month prior to the Springer signing, and it was fully dependent on the eventual Springer signing. Hazel and others know this same information hence the reason for Twitter and other media outlets reporting the signing .

My source which I will repeat again is the same possible source that I, Hazel and other local insiders such as Vendetta has holds true to what we reported and other baseball insiders. The Jays had Brantley on a 3yr deal. You can all rip Hazel and I apart as much as you would like, while covering and following reputable insiders and posting their tweets. But although we reported the Brantley signing first, reputable insiders followed with the same information.

This does not make us any less of an insider then the ones currently employed by high ranking sports news outlets. It only proves that even those that get paid handsomely can be just as wrong as myself.

I will hold true to my information that I passed along. As the other insiders havent provided any explanation, I only have that to say.

Toronto Blue Jays front office is not happy today. This I can pass on. Specifics on what went array are unknown, other then the Jays dropped initial 3yr offer to 2yr and Houston was given an opportunity match or beat. Why they dropped their offer, is unknown. But there are unhappy front office people today with how this whole situation unfolded.

I can though report that the Jays are indeed in discussions and have been more aggressively with Reds the past 24 hours. No specifics at this time. But we can all assume it has to do with a possible Lindor type trade. One that includes a SP and INF.

man i don't really care what the others have to say- but even if this is wrong i still appreciate it. I saw the hate chuckwoods got too. Thanks buddy. Those going off on you- i don't get, pretty dumb if you ask me. But c'est la vie.

 

[Scion]

True. I just don't know if biggio has the arm for 3rd full time. I don't know. I don't get paid to make those decisions. I would just like to have someone who at least has some experience at the hot corner

The Jays have reinforcements coming in the reasonably near future (Groshans, Martin and Martinez). So they only need a stop gap for 2021.

 

[dubplatepressure]

Fellow Blue Jay fans,

It is with regret that I passed on information to you all prior to Hazel Mae and other reputable baseball insiders such as Olsney, Rothenthal, Passan and Gammons about the possible Brantley signing.

Myself and all these other reputable insiders were lead to believe that a deal with Brantley was completed with the Blue Jays. I will hold firm that the deal with Brantley was in place a month prior to the Springer signing, and it was fully dependent on the eventual Springer signing. Hazel and others know this same information hence the reason for Twitter and other media outlets reporting the signing .

My source which I will repeat again is the same possible source that I, Hazel and other local insiders such as Vendetta has holds true to what we reported and other baseball insiders. The Jays had Brantley on a 3yr deal. You can all rip Hazel and I apart as much as you would like, while covering and following reputable insiders and posting their tweets. But although we reported the Brantley signing first, reputable insiders followed with the same information.

This does not make us any less of an insider then the ones currently employed by high ranking sports news outlets. It only proves that even those that get paid handsomely can be just as wrong as myself.

I will hold true to my information that I passed along. As the other insiders havent provided any explanation, I only have that to say.

Toronto Blue Jays front office is not happy today. This I can pass on. Specifics on what went array are unknown, other then the Jays dropped initial 3yr offer to 2yr and Houston was given an opportunity match or beat. Why they dropped their offer, is unknown. But there are unhappy front office people today with how this whole situation unfolded.

I can though report that the Jays are indeed in discussions and have been more aggressively with Reds the past 24 hours. No specifics at this time. But we can all assume it has to do with a possible Lindor type trade. One that includes a SP and INF.

You sound like you think I take this way more seriously than I do! Keep sharing whatever you feel you want to - it's always enjoyable to read even if it's not always right.

 

[BlueForever75]

man i don't really care what the others have to say- but even if this is wrong i still appreciate it. I saw the hate chuckwoods got too. Thanks buddy. Those going off on you- i don't get, pretty dumb if you ask me. But c'est la vie.

Thank you I appreciate it. And I will keep posting what I find out when I find it out.

Your a class act.

 

[BlueForever75]

You sound like you think I take this way more seriously than I do! Keep sharing whatever you feel you want to - it's always enjoyable to read even if it's not always right.

Thank you for being understanding. I will continue to pass on what I find out.

 

[GoonieFace]

Fellow Blue Jay fans,

It is with regret that I passed on information to you all prior to Hazel Mae and other reputable baseball insiders such as Olsney, Rothenthal, Passan and Gammons about the possible Brantley signing.

Myself and all these other reputable insiders were lead to believe that a deal with Brantley was completed with the Blue Jays. I will hold firm that the deal with Brantley was in place a month prior to the Springer signing, and it was fully dependent on the eventual Springer signing. Hazel and others know this same information hence the reason for Twitter and other media outlets reporting the signing .

My source which I will repeat again is the same possible source that I, Hazel and other local insiders such as Vendetta has holds true to what we reported and other baseball insiders. The Jays had Brantley on a 3yr deal. You can all rip Hazel and I apart as much as you would like, while covering and following reputable insiders and posting their tweets. But although we reported the Brantley signing first, reputable insiders followed with the same information.

This does not make us any less of an insider then the ones currently employed by high ranking sports news outlets. It only proves that even those that get paid handsomely can be just as wrong as myself.

I will hold true to my information that I passed along. As the other insiders havent provided any explanation, I only have that to say.

Toronto Blue Jays front office is not happy today. This I can pass on. Specifics on what went array are unknown, other then the Jays dropped initial 3yr offer to 2yr and Houston was given an opportunity match or beat. Why they dropped their offer, is unknown. But there are unhappy front office people today with how this whole situation unfolded.

I can though report that the Jays are indeed in discussions and have been more aggressively with Reds the past 24 hours. No specifics at this time. But we can all assume it has to do with a possible Lindor type trade. One that includes a SP and INF.

You should be paddled by each member of this board for your misleading actions. You provide the paddle.

 

[Scion]

Realmuto seems like the most impactful player we can add to our roster via free agency now.

Posey is making around 22 million a year, which is where his average should be at.

The move improves our defense down the middle (especially throwing), pitching staff (by game calling/defense/confidence in blocking), and offense. Also allows us to move some of our catching depth for a good pitcher.

Jansen + for Castillo from the Reds?

I understand your reasoning, but are the Jays dollars really best spent on a position they have an influx of talent at? It seems like the best move is to sign Bauer/Odorizzi/Tanaka (in that order). If Jansen + for Castillo is plausible I'm sure the Jays can do that even without signing Realmuto.

 

[shortfuze]

Fellow Blue Jay fans,

It is with regret that I passed on information to you all prior to Hazel Mae and other reputable baseball insiders such as Olsney, Rothenthal, Passan and Gammons about the possible Brantley signing.

Myself and all these other reputable insiders were lead to believe that a deal with Brantley was completed with the Blue Jays. I will hold firm that the deal with Brantley was in place a month prior to the Springer signing, and it was fully dependent on the eventual Springer signing. Hazel and others know this same information hence the reason for Twitter and other media outlets reporting the signing .

My source which I will repeat again is the same possible source that I, Hazel and other local insiders such as Vendetta has holds true to what we reported and other baseball insiders. The Jays had Brantley on a 3yr deal. You can all rip Hazel and I apart as much as you would like, while covering and following reputable insiders and posting their tweets. But although we reported the Brantley signing first, reputable insiders followed with the same information.

This does not make us any less of an insider then the ones currently employed by high ranking sports news outlets. It only proves that even those that get paid handsomely can be just as wrong as myself.

I will hold true to my information that I passed along. As the other insiders havent provided any explanation, I only have that to say.

Toronto Blue Jays front office is not happy today. This I can pass on. Specifics on what went array are unknown, other then the Jays dropped initial 3yr offer to 2yr and Houston was given an opportunity match or beat. Why they dropped their offer, is unknown. But there are unhappy front office people today with how this whole situation unfolded.

I can though report that the Jays are indeed in discussions and have been more aggressively with Reds the past 24 hours. No specifics at this time. But we can all assume it has to do with a possible Lindor type trade. One that includes a SP and INF.

For me man. No need to apologize. Appreciate the insider info. Everything is taken with a grain of salt and I understand enough that even though you are sharing info that shit can change in a minute. I wouldn’t worry so much about everyone. I’m sure people with half a brain and understand the situation appreciate what you are doing.

 

[phillipmike]