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Blue Jays Discussion: Off-Season Madness the 15th: How's that dream job now, Farrell?

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good day peoples. I have been reading the boards for a couple years now and just never bothered to post. Mostly due to someone posting something along the lines i was gonna say. However i was just wondering what you guys think of having a auction for johnson around the trade deadline. might be able to get some great pieces for a greedy pending ufa.( i say greedy cause most of the headlines you read about are saying he's looking to be paid grienke money .also a a projected #1 ) We could probably get a mix of doc/dickey return. maybe with a 3-4 started to take over the gap in the rotation. i just have a feeling he will burn the jays in the offseason. and with the new rules for compensation my question to you is would it be something to think about.. but who knows. im not meaning to be pesimistic just a thought about what could happen.
 
Regulars:

Reyes SS
.294, 14HR, 55RBI, 42SB, .811 OPS

Cabrera LF
.303, 15HR, 70RBI, 13 SB, .832 OPS

Bautista RF
.267, 43HR, 127RBI, .945 OPS

Encarnacion DH/1B
.277, 31HR, 110RBI, .885 OPS

Lawrie 3B
.281, 28HR, 79RBI 23SB, .845 OPS

Rasmus CF
.245, 22HR, 68RBI 10SB, .744 OPS

Arencibia C
.252, 26HR, 66RBI .301 OBP, .758 OPS

Lind 1B/DH
.255, 22HR, 49RBI, .760 OPS

Bonifacio 2B/SS/LF
.257, 2HR, 35RBI, 37SB .681 OPS

Bench:
Thole C
.241, 3HR, 22 RBI .638 OPS

Izturis 2B/SS/3B
.271, 2HR, 30 RBI, 10SB .706 OPS

Davis LF/RF/CF
.259, 4HR, 25 RBI, 32SB .643 OPS

Canzler 1B/3B/DH
.246, 9HR, 23 RBI, .723 OPS



Starting Pitching
Dickey
17W, 3.11 ERA, 202SO, 1.16 WHIP

Morrow
15W, 3.23 ERA, 194SO, 1.25 WHIP

Johnson
14W, 3.63 ERA, 175SO, 1.17 WHIP

Buehrle
12W, 4.32 ERA, 108SO, 1.34 WHIP

Romero
13W, 4.03 ERA, 156SO, 1.36 WHIP

Bullpen:

Janssen
38Sv, 3.12 ERA, 8.2K/9, 1.11 WHIP

Santos
9Sv. 3.34 ERA, 11.4K/9, 1.21 WHIP

Delabar
3.58 ERA, 10.9K/9, 1.29 WHIP

Oliver
2.21 ERA, 7.7K/9, 1.04WHIP

Lincoln
4.01 ERA, 8.1K/9, 1.26WHIP

Happ
4.22 ERA, 7.9K/9, 1.35WHIP (6 Starts)

Rogers
4.47 ERA, 9.3K/9, 1.40WHIP
 
ThreeSixes said:
good day peoples. I have been reading the boards for a couple years now and just never bothered to post. Mostly due to someone posting something along the lines i was gonna say. However i was just wondering what you guys think of having a auction for johnson around the trade deadline. might be able to get some great pieces for a greedy pending ufa.( i say greedy cause most of the headlines you read about are saying he's looking to be paid grienke money .also a a projected #1 ) We could probably get a mix of doc/dickey return. maybe with a 3-4 started to take over the gap in the rotation. i just have a feeling he will burn the jays in the offseason. and with the new rules for compensation my question to you is would it be something to think about.. but who knows. im not meaning to be pesimistic just a thought about what could happen.
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That's a reasonable thought. Don't be afraid to post more often! You have to remember that although he's a sought after asset, pending free agents, even at the trade deadline, won't get that large of a return. Atleast not a large enough return that would make more of an impact over a re-signed JJ. The reason we gave up so much was because Dickey came with an extension, and just came off winning the Cy Young award. Very specific circumstances. I hope we can get him extended shortly after the season starts, but if not, having Dickey for the next 3-4 years definitely softens the blow if JJ walks.
 
Nuckles37 said:
Jays go 163-0.

They're so good that they get an extra win.
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Take a bow...

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ThreeSixes said:
good day peoples. I have been reading the boards for a couple years now and just never bothered to post. Mostly due to someone posting something along the lines i was gonna say. However i was just wondering what you guys think of having a auction for johnson around the trade deadline. might be able to get some great pieces for a greedy pending ufa.( i say greedy cause most of the headlines you read about are saying he's looking to be paid grienke money .also a a projected #1 ) We could probably get a mix of doc/dickey return. maybe with a 3-4 started to take over the gap in the rotation. i just have a feeling he will burn the jays in the offseason. and with the new rules for compensation my question to you is would it be something to think about.. but who knows. im not meaning to be pesimistic just a thought about what could happen.
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You dont trade Johnson if Jays are in contention and alot would have to go wrong for Jays to be out of it by the deadline. You bite the bullet and go for it even if you think Johnson bolts in the offseason.
 
darko said:
You dont trade Johnson if Jays are in contention and alot would have to go wrong for Jays to be out of it by the deadline. You bite the bullet and go for it even if you think Johnson bolts in the offseason.
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Ya otherwise you wasted what could be one of the best off seasons in franchise history
 
p.l.f. said:
lind hits 5th (not rasmus
gibbons said so
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I think people mistake Lind for being a bad player and having a "lucky season" when actually he's a very good hitter that has just struggled for 2 years. I hear People say when you struggle for that long your done but I disagree. Blame it on Lind, blame it on Murphy I don't care but in my opinion I think spending a year with Mottala will do wonders for him. When Lind was sent down to Vegas he hit .382... I don't care if its AAA if you hit .382 your a damn good hitter. Last season in what was a horrible year for Lind he hit righties better then anyone on the Jays roster (200 + Ab's)... including Encarnacion. If we can keep him away from lefties he should post a good batting average... Thus making it important for the Jays to find a good platoon man. Lind shouldn't start a single game against a lefty, and considering Gibbons is a master at platooning I expect a strong batting average from Lind. When facing righties Lind is a legitimate threat and is strong in the 5 hole. Considering 75 percent of MLB pitchers are right handed, Lind is a big piece in our line up and is severely under rated. Most will say this is a stretch but I EXPECT a .270 .330 obp, 22 HR 90 RBI type season. If he gets 350 AB'S against righties and say just 75 against lefties those numbers are attainable.
 
I agree Lind is decent and he had amazing numbers a few years ago. These are the same people who write Romero off.

I'm not saying he will get back to where he was but at least he has potential
 
ThreeSixes said:
good day peoples. I have been reading the boards for a couple years now and just never bothered to post. Mostly due to someone posting something along the lines i was gonna say. However i was just wondering what you guys think of having a auction for johnson around the trade deadline. might be able to get some great pieces for a greedy pending ufa.( i say greedy cause most of the headlines you read about are saying he's looking to be paid grienke money .also a a projected #1 ) We could probably get a mix of doc/dickey return. maybe with a 3-4 started to take over the gap in the rotation. i just have a feeling he will burn the jays in the offseason. and with the new rules for compensation my question to you is would it be something to think about.. but who knows. im not meaning to be pesimistic just a thought about what could happen.
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If you win a WS its worth losing him for nothing.
 
Lind will start at 5. I think Gibby will at least have every intent to have him there. What will happen a month-two into the season is a different beast.
 
Bozak said:
I think people mistake Lind for being a bad player and having a "lucky season" when actually he's a very good hitter that has just struggled for 2 years. I hear People say when you struggle for that long your done but I disagree. Blame it on Lind, blame it on Murphy I don't care but in my opinion I think spending a year with Mottala will do wonders for him. When Lind was sent down to Vegas he hit .382... I don't care if its AAA if you hit .382 your a damn good hitter. Last season in what was a horrible year for Lind he hit righties better then anyone on the Jays roster (200 + Ab's)... including Encarnacion. If we can keep him away from lefties he should post a good batting average... Thus making it important for the Jays to find a good platoon man. Lind shouldn't start a single game against a lefty, and considering Gibbons is a master at platooning I expect a strong batting average from Lind. When facing righties Lind is a legitimate threat and is strong in the 5 hole. Considering 75 percent of MLB pitchers are right handed, Lind is a big piece in our line up and is severely under rated. Most will say this is a stretch but I EXPECT a .270 .330 obp, 22 HR 90 RBI type season. If he gets 350 AB'S against righties and say just 75 against lefties those numbers are attainable.
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How can someone be considered a good hitter, yet needs a platoon partner?

Not to mention it has been three years, and prior to his one season he wasn't showing anything to consider him a good hitter either. At this point in his career he's only shown one legitimate year as being a good hitter.
 
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